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#51
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"Pretty much confirmed" where? From what I know, last news I had about MENext timeline was that it'd be set in the same one as Shepard's story...

Has been confirmed since they revealed they were working on the next game in the franchise like a year and a half ago. You will not be playing as "Shepard 2.0" (that's a direct quote). It'll be an entirely new adventure. 

 

 

 

Not sure where you're getting your news, but nothing has been said about the next games timeline. Nothing whatsoever.


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 I don't want to play a ME4 where it takes place during Shepard's timeline because no matter what I'll do with the new protagonist, Shepard will STILL one-up me. And I most defiantly DON'T want a RE-BOOT! I want a game that takes place after ME3. No matter if it's just 10 years or a 100 years I want all my choices and all the consequences of those choices to follow into the next game.

Bioware shouldn't try and make the next protagonist live up to Shepard. Nor should they try to "one-up" him. Likewise, the next villain/threat shouldn't be an attempt to top the Reapers.

 

 

 

The new character isn't going to be Shepard 2.0. They will be a different type of hero. With their own story.

 

 

 

Many fans don't want to be the savior of the galaxy and everything in it all over again.

 

 

 

 

 

As far as choices go, Bioware only ever stated your choices would carry over the course of a trilogy. At some point they will have to remove the handcuffs to past decisions. One thing is for sure, you certainly will not be having all of your trilogy choices imported into the next game. It's impossible due to the amount of variation.



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Bioware shouldn't try and make the next protagonist live up to Shepard. Nor should they try to "one-up" him. Likewise, the next villain/threat shouldn't be an attempt to top the Reapers.
 
 
 
The new character isn't going to be Shepard 2.0. They will be a different type of hero. With their own story.
 
 
 
Many fans don't want to be the savior of the galaxy and everything in it all over again.
 
 
 
 
 
As far as choices go, Bioware only ever stated your choices would carry over the course of a trilogy. At some point they will have to remove the handcuffs to past decisions. One thing is for sure, you certainly will not be having all of your trilogy choices imported into the next game. It's impossible due to the amount of variation.


You know, they ran into this problem in the Dragon Age games. The scope of the first one was huge, but I. The second one, they had Hawke, who was honestly a better character, in a better story, but a lot of people hated it, because the scope was so much smaller. Thus, the return to saving the world in Dragon Age Inquisition (which is, admittedly, the best of the series).

I suspect for that reason, we will get a game that is fairly massive in scope.

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You know, they ran into this problem in the Dragon Age games. The scope of the first one was huge, but I. The second one, they had Hawke, who was honestly a better character, in a better story, but a lot of people hated it, because the scope was so much smaller. Thus, the return to saving the world in Dragon Age Inquisition (which is, admittedly, the best of the series).

I suspect for that reason, we will get a game that is fairly massive in scope.

I've always said, fan service is a detriment to creativity and originality. Hopefully the scope of the narrative won't be determined by fans.

 

 

The scope of the adventure should definitely be bigger than ever. Such as the size of the game world and the progress we make from beginning to end. But it certainly should not be a rehash of Space Jesus fulfilling his destiny by saving the entire galaxy against unstoppable juggernauts.

 

 

 

It should be noted that ME2's narrative was smaller in scope than either of its counterparts. And many consider it to be the best game in the series, and even one of the best games ever. (although, I don't share either of those opinions)



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Has been confirmed since they revealed they were working on the next game in the franchise like a year and a half ago. You will not be playing as "Shepard 2.0" (that's a direct quote). It'll be an entirely new adventure. 

 

 

 

Not sure where you're getting your news, but nothing has been said about the next games timeline. Nothing whatsoever.

 

The fact that it'd be a new adventure doesn't mean anything at all about it's timeline. And I don't remember where I read what I read, but I did.



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The fact that it'd be a new adventure doesn't mean anything at all about it's timeline. And I don't remember where I read what I read, but I did.

 I never said that a new adventure would determine the timeline. I reiterated what AnneLadyx3 said: it was confirmed long ago that the next game would have nothing to do with Shepard or his previous adventures.

 

The timeline of the next game has not been addressed by Bioware at anytime or anywhere. What you read and wherever you read it, it was nothing more than speculation by whoever wrote it.



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Sorry to crush all your hopes and dreams but...

Spoiler

 

We all already know about this.

 

That doesn't mean our choices won't be acknowledged.

 

You have to realize how much some of those choices impact the galaxy.

 

Choices like the Quarian/Geth war, the Genophage cure and the ending are really important and cannot be ignored.


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You know, they ran into this problem in the Dragon Age games. The scope of the first one was huge, but I. The second one, they had Hawke, who was honestly a better character, in a better story, but a lot of people hated it, because the scope was so much smaller. Thus, the return to saving the world in Dragon Age Inquisition (which is, admittedly, the best of the series).

I suspect for that reason, we will get a game that is fairly massive in scope.

 

To be honest it wasn't even really Hawke's more personal story that made Dragon Age 2 fail (though there were plenty of complaints) it was the fact it was a crap rushed game that needed another year or two of development.


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We all already know about this.

 

That doesn't mean our choices won't be acknowledged.

 

You have to realize how much some of those choices impact the galaxy.

 

Choices like the Quarian/Geth war, the Genophage cure and the ending are really important and cannot be ignored.

 

Spoiler

You do know what that means!?



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Spoiler

You do know what that means!?


I don't know whether you're trolling or if you just can't accept the fact that the Trilogy won't be ignored.

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Spoiler

You do know what that means!?

I don't know whether you're trolling or if you just can't accept the fact that the Trilogy won't be ignored.

It might be ignored and it might not. There is no information on that. They said that Shepard's story is over, period. They also said that we might see familiar faces. There is nothing solid about when and where the game will be set, we don't even have a name for it yet. So, saying something as absolute as your choices will/won't matter is pure speculation at this point.


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It might be ignored and it might not. There is no information on that. They said that Shepard's story is over, period. They also said that we might see familiar faces. There is nothing solid about when and where the game will be set, we don't even have a name for it yet. So, saying something as absolute as your choices will/won't matter is pure speculation at this point.


Obviously it will be set after the Trilogy because there are new species.

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Obviously it will be set after the Trilogy because there are new species.

Not obviously. The game may be set after the trilogy with an ark ship finding some remote galaxy or uncharted systems before the Reaper War or it may be a complete reboot...

I think it'll be set after the trilogy but I can't really say it for certain and neither of us can until they release more information.



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Some people already are getting butthurt in here lol  :P

-Chill out all and here is information that is so far known so here are few things that we do know about ME4:

Spoiler
 

-And these are rumors and speculation about game that are unconfirmed:

Spoiler

-And here are rumors that are most likely to turn out to be true:

Spoiler

And that is all information I have :P both that are known and confirmed and just rumors.So everyone chill out.



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Whatever species are removed, it won't be Asari, Turian or Salarian. The Council races will return. Write that down.



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Yeah, those three are an inextricable part of the "Mass Effect experience", now.

I anticipate a game that features most, if not all, of the species we've thus far met, but those three are no-brainers, in my estimation. I expect this game will at least begin in Council Space and/or in the company of Council species. It has to immediately feel like Mass Effect, after all.

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Importing a galactic state from ME3 is the easiest way to guarantee I will not be buying MENext.



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-And these are rumors and speculation about game that are unconfirmed:

Spoiler

-And here are rumors that are most likely to turn out to be true:

Spoiler

And that is all information I have :P both that are known and confirmed and just rumors.So everyone chill out.

 

The Devs have said that they won't ignore ME3.

 

“ What Chris is saying is that thinking of the next 'Mass Effect' game as 'Mass Effect 4' would imply a certain linearity, a straight evolution of the gameplay and story of the first three games. Story-wise, the arc of the first trilogy has also been concluded, and what we will do is tell a new story set in the 'Mass Effect' universe. That doesn’t mean that events of the first three games and the choices you made won’t get recognized, but they likely won’t be what this new story will focus on. I apologize for being cryptic right now, but it’s early enough in development that we don’t have much to share – things still fluctuate quite a bit. ”

—Yanick Roy

 

They also said we might see some old faces.

Let's not talk about the whole ''other galaxy'' thing because first of all: it's stupid considering the fact that we've only explored 1% of the Milky Way and that there's so much more to explore, and secondly: it's pure speculation which comes mostly from the people who didn't like ME3's endings.

 

Of course the old races are coming back. And it's not rumors that Krogan will be back, we've seen one in a teaser trailer. We've also seen a Salarian.

Those supposed rumors of Quarians and Krogan not coming back are false. They started because of this ''secret meeting'' or whatever where Bioware asked which 2 of the main races players would get rid of if they had too and most people said Quarian and Krogan. Then people started freaking out thinking those races wouldn't be in the next game.

 

Oh and it's funny that you keep contradicting yourself...


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Here's everything we know about the Next Mass Effect. (All from this x)

STORY
  • The next game will feature a brand new story, that has not to do with Shepard. [1] [2]

  • It will however, reference the old trilogy. [3] In fact, old characters may reappear. [6]

  • The Main Character will be a human, male or female, sporting N7 gear. [4] [5] The character is said to have “something to do with N7”. [18]

  • The Main Character will have access to a ship. [26]

  • The story will take place in a “whole new region of space” [7]

  • Krogan will be featured.  [7]

  • We will be able to have aliens in our squads. [14]

  • Aliens players are familiar with will appear in the game, as well new species players haven’t seen before. [18]

  • The theme is “new experiences for the player, but with elements of what you know and love,” [18]

  • Salarians will be featured and their design improved. [28]

  • New alien races are being developed, with their own architecture, which is based on that race's culture and backstory. [32]

    • Two environments were showcased on N7 day, one being a streamlined architecture, well integrated to its natural environemnt, meant to evoke the sense of being welcome.

    • The other seemed clearly alien, mechanical and provoked a sense of danger.

  • The protagonist is quite skilled and capable of surviving, but hasn't reached the legendary status of Shepard, even at the start of the trilogy. The story is about that person gradually becoming a hero. [32]


 

GAMEPLAY
  • The next game will feature gender selection. [8]

  • The galaxy map will remain as a means of interstellar navigation.  [7]

  • Co-operative MP is preferred to competitive. [11]

  • Customization may be refined, allowing more options. [13] The armour is designed to be customisable based on adding (or "snapping") of armour pieces to a base. [26]

  • An under-armor system is also being developed. The exterior armor pieces don’t have to be on the player at all times, instead being “built” upon the casual clothing, therefore maximizing customization and visual aesthetic. [27]

  • Combat is “a point of exploration”. [19]

  • Playable races are not locked down. [20]

  • The game is taking the theme of space from the original trilogy, and making it as a place in the new game, a part of exploration. [32]

           MAKO FEATURES
  • The Mako is back. [9] She has been described as “speedy”, and is capable to maintain her acceleration while travelling through heavy snow. [10]

  • They are building a game about exploring places, thus the Mako will play a role. [17]

  • Mako will have new physics, so it can be as responsive as possible. Customizing Mako might be an option.[16] It is sleeker and faster but has no apparent cannon. [18]

  • Mako thrusters not confirmed, but vehicle customization is being looked into. [21]

  • Concept art for the Mako seems to indicate that its capacity is limited to 3 people. [26]

 

        AESTHETICS
  • The next ME game will use the Frostbite Engine 3. [29]

  • The new Frostbite engine has been great for animations, surpassing barriers which the Unreal engine used to create. [27]

  • There has been no info on soundtrack composers yet, as it’s too early. (27/7/14) [12]

  • A variety of environments, from destroyed urban, and arid to grassy and snowy ones will be featured.  [7] [10]

  • The armour was designed with exploration in mind, to give the protagonist freedom of movement and freedom of vision to see the environment. The helmet isn't a crash helmet (like perhaps Shepard's was). [26]

  • The focus on exploration is also supported by the animations to some extent. [26]

  • Species like Thresher Maws (or wildlife on planets) might be possible, but it depends on whether the art team can create high-quality models and fit them into the game.  [26] Species of all sizes are being looked at. [27]

  • The armor sets are designed to look as realistic as possible. [27]

  • The female outfits may be less… promiscuous. [27]

DEV PROMISES
  • The idea is not just to do ME4, but to really bring the franchise forward, and make it the biggest Mass Effect yet. [32]

  • The development process will be focusing on current gen platforms and PC, in order to provide an experience closer to the original vision, as many of those limitations are removed now. [32]

on EXPLORATION
  • Exploration is about the feeling that you are seeing something unique, that is special to you, but there is also a sense of danger. [32]

  • The player is not forced into exploration, or one single type of experience. The player is not forced to drive the Mako all the time, it's a game of choice. [32]

  • A major theme of the game is cultural discovery, and an archaeological "feel". [32]

  • The handling of the Mako is much better than experienced before. [32]

  • The various environments and experiences will be of a wide range. [32]

  • The player is given various tools "focused on exploration". [32]


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GWolf, that's an awesome post. I know there is already a thread for that topic, but that post with all those links... that's a thing of beauty. Thank you.

I'll be bookmarking this for future reference.

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GWolf, that's an awesome post. I know there is already a thread for that topic, but that post with all those links... that's a thing of beauty. Thank you.

I'll be bookmarking this for future reference.

 

You're welcome! :) But I don't have any credit for this, I only copy/pasted it haha.



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As to the original theme of this thread, I think the Dragon Age Keep is one of the many things they did really well with DAI. I might hate the DA gameplay, but they did implement a few cool things.

I hope that the Witcher 3 uses something half as effective to allow me to create world states for that game. Depending upon the timeline, I'm sure we can expect some kind of world state acknowledgement in the next ME. I expect the "world state" will be far less important to the story than in DAI and the Witcher 3, though. Those stories are continuing sagas with major social and political upheaval in progress. The next ME is a new story, unconnected to the Reaper War. Shifts in timeline and/or regions of space could even make the Reaper War effectively irrelevant.

Personally, I'm hoping for the same "near future" timeline (give or take a few years). That was one thing I loved about the franchise, particularly in the beginning. It was set in the "not too distant future". I have my preferred ME3 ending, but I'm almost eager for the next game to offer a cursory acknowledgement of the Reaper War storyline and then move on largely unaffected by those events. I don't see how it can work in any other way, with such dramatic and wildly divergent ending states for the galaxy.

I do wonder if the writers ever regret those endings at least a little, due to the possible complications of taking the next step. "Surprise! You thought we were letting you move on to other projects, but we want you to make us another Mass Effect game." This is NOT that thread, though. ;)

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The trilogy is done, but Mass Effect can continue similar to Dragon Age: Inquisition. They can start a new story, new characters, new main character of any race, but still bring back old faces, and maybe give them roles. I'm ok with it as long as there's not much retconning like they did with Leli, then we should be good. Though from the sounds of it, it's a story taking place in another Galaxy.



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The trilogy is done, but Mass Effect can continue similar to Dragon Age: Inquisition. They can start a new story, new characters, new main character of any race, but still bring back old faces, and maybe give them roles. I'm ok with it as long as there's not much retconning like they did with Leli, then we should be good. Though from the sounds of it, it's a story taking place in another Galaxy.


I'm not getting the "other galaxy" vibe at all. It could happen, but I don't think that is at all necessary. They (the Council species) have explored 1% of the Milky Way, give or take. There is a lot of unexplored galaxy left in our own neck of the woods.
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