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[vertigomez]

What are the odds that we'll be able to play a Qunari (race) in DA4? And more importantly, would it be a good choice for the game's setting?

Dorian says he's met Tal-Vashoth mercenaries and merchants, and there are definitely qunari slaves in the Imperium. There's also Seheron, with its mix of Qunari, Vints, viddathari, Tal-Vashoth, and native Fog Warriors... so I think a qunari PC is perfectly plausible as we head up north. It just depends on what exactly we'll be doing in the game, and how much our race will affect that.

[Xilizhra]

Is it wrong that I hope that the fourth game will have a set elven protagonist?

[vertigomez]

Is it wrong that I hope that the fourth game will have a set elven protagonist?

I would cry because there's so much dwarf potential in Tevinter.

[Qun00]

Dorian says he's met Tal-Vashoth mercenaries and merchants, and there are definitely qunari slaves in the Imperium. There's also Seheron, with its mix of Qunari, Vints, viddathari, Tal-Vashoth, and native Fog Warriors... so I think a qunari PC is perfectly plausible as we head up north. It just depends on what exactly we'll be doing in the game, and how much our race will affect that.

A Tevinter noble probably is the ideal choice as the Inquisition is looking for a potential ally in Tevinter. I'm not sure how useful a Tal-Vashoth could be, but I can still hope.

And what did you mean about dwarves?

[vertigomez]

A Tevinter noble probably is the ideal choice as the Inquisition is looking for a potential ally in Tevinter. I'm not sure how useful a Tal-Vashoth could be, but I can still hope.

True, but if Solas is recruiting from the underclass, we might have more luck investigating his goings-on as an easily-overlooked servant or something. One of those wait and see situations, since we don't know whether the main focus of the game is going to be on him, or the Qunari invasion, or the rise or fall of Tevinter...

And what did you mean about dwarves?

Dwarves and Tevinter go together like peanut butter and jelly. They've been allies since -1195 Ancient. There's the lyrium trade, underground embassies made especially for dwarven dignitaries so they won't lose their caste by going to the surface, Tevinter built a Proving Arena, there's the Ambassadoria which was created to advise the Archon and the Magisterium, and there a dwarf-built golems protecting Minrathous...

So much dwarfy potential.

[Finvola]

This is Janelle. She was one of my favorites, she looked like such a big badass when she shield bashed enemies.  I had a lot of fun and was sad to retire her.

 

 

 

I don't think she was happy with the color of her new armor.

[Xilizhra]

Dwarves and Tevinter go together like peanut butter and jelly. They've been allies since -1195 Ancient. There's the lyrium trade, underground embassies made especially for dwarven dignitaries so they won't lose their caste by going to the surface, Tevinter built a Proving Arena, there's the Ambassadoria which was created to advise the Archon and the Magisterium, and there a dwarf-built golems protecting Minrathous...

So much dwarfy potential.

I admit, one thing that I find interesting is the fact that dwarves are the one race that cannot legally be enslaved in Tevinter. The other side of that is that dwarves also can't be citizens; all dwarves are considered foreign dignitaries.

[vertigomez]

I admit, one thing that I find interesting is the fact that dwarves are the one race that cannot legally be enslaved in Tevinter. The other side of that is that dwarves also can't be citizens; all dwarves are considered foreign dignitaries.

It puts them in a unique position, to be sure. Calpernia's overseer when she was enslaved to Erasthenes was a dwarf.

I'm really interested in what they'll do with all the races in DA4.

[mikeymoonshine]

Never posted pics before so here Kasianka is my female quinari Knight Enchanter. 

 

Spoiler

 

 

It took me absolutely ages to make her but I think she turned out pretty well. 

[LadyofClockwork7]

Is it wrong that I hope that the fourth game will have a set elven protagonist?

 

I'd really rather they didn't do that, and I doubt the devs would go there anyway. A lot of people *really* don't like playing elves for a variety of reasons and Bioware is no doubt well aware of this by now. Being forced into playing any single race is lame anyway, the ability to choose between the four should always be there imo. One of DA2's biggest mistakes was taking that out and hopefully it stays a series staple from here on out.

[Heimdall]

Dorian says he's met Tal-Vashoth mercenaries and merchants, and there are definitely qunari slaves in the Imperium. There's also Seheron, with its mix of Qunari, Vints, viddathari, Tal-Vashoth, and native Fog Warriors... so I think a qunari PC is perfectly plausible as we head up north. It just depends on what exactly we'll be doing in the game, and how much our race will affect that.

Add to that, Iron Bull mentions a very specific description of a bar (I think) in Minrathous in one of their banters, implying that he has been there. It's not like IB can hide that he's qunari.

It doesn't seem like there's any lore reason we couldn't be a non-Qun qunari in Tevinter DA4.

[Heimdall]

I'd really rather they didn't do that, and I doubt the devs would go there anyway. A lot of people *really* don't like playing elves for a variety of reasons and Bioware is no doubt well aware of this by now. Being forced into playing any single race is lame anyway, the ability to choose between the four should always be there imo. One of DA2's biggest mistakes was taking that out and hopefully it stays a series staple from here on out.

On the other hand, setting the human background allowed them to do some interesting things with the PC's family's involvement that they wouldn't have been able to otherwise. There's an argument for doing it again for a similarly personal plot, though I generally prefer to have race choice.

[Xilizhra]

I'd really rather they didn't do that, and I doubt the devs would go there anyway. A lot of people *really* don't like playing elves for a variety of reasons

That seems like more of a feature than a bug to me.

[FemHawke FTW]

Never posted pics before so here Kasianka is my female quinari Knight Enchanter.

Spoiler

It took me absolutely ages to make her but I think she turned out pretty well.

Very pretty

[LadyofClockwork7]

That seems like more of a feature than a bug to me.

 

Forcing somebody into playing a race they hate is a feature?    I'm not sure what you mean, Xilizhra.

 

Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case paint my face and call me Merrill because it's gone over my head.

[LadyofClockwork7]

On the other hand, setting the human background allowed them to do some interesting things with the PC's family's involvement that they wouldn't have been able to otherwise. There's an argument for doing it again for a similarly personal plot, though I generally prefer to have race choice.

 

Yeah that's true and you raise a good point. I guess I just never really felt overly invested in the Hawke family, so the specialness of the specific tailoring that being a "human only" allowed was kinda lost on me. I felt more attached to the families we got to meet in Origins than I ever did to the Hawke family. Apart from the Champion, I only really liked/cared about Carver, but since I primarily play a rogue, he's not in most of my games sadly.

 

It's a personal thing I know and I also know a lot of people really loved Hawke and his/her family (I've seen plenty of people comment on Leandra's death being especially hard to bear while playing) but I think Bioware is capable of making the story feel involved and relevant with every race. Couslands had the whole Landsmeet + Arl Howe ordeal, the mages had the Circle of Magi, the city elf had the Alienage storyline, the dwarves had Orzammar (and this one was easily my favourite). The only origin that kinda got the shaft in that department was the Dalish elf but even then they had Tamlen's encounter later and some special interaction with Zathrian's clan.

 

By contrast how they dealt with the Inquisitor's background and making it relevant to the overall plot felt a bit shallow by Origins and even DA2's standards, though I loved the race reactivity. It felt like being a dwarf/elf/qunari Inquisitor actually mattered, at least in some circumstances (i.e. war table missions, dialogue, court approval, romance choice, etc). But that's a topic for another time, I'm reaching TL;DR status! 

[Xilizhra]

Forcing somebody into playing a race they hate is a feature?    I'm not sure what you mean, Xilizhra.

 

Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case paint my face and call me Merrill because it's gone over my head.

Because the people who really hate elves tend to... be somewhat toxic to the quality of the community as a whole, so motivating them to not play the game would be advantageous.

[LadyofClockwork7]

Because the people who really hate elves tend to... be somewhat toxic to the quality of the community as a whole, so motivating them to not play the game would be advantageous.

 

Ahhh, I getcha. Advantageous to the community perhaps, but sadly not so much for their sales, so I still doubt it'd happen. I also think it'd have the exact opposite effect - we'd see even more elf hate/toxicity on here as a result of a set elven protagonist in Dragon Age. 

[Qun00]

Because the people who really hate elves tend to... be somewhat toxic to the quality of the community as a whole, so motivating them to not play the game would be advantageous.

I do love all things elven as you might be able to tell, but everyone has the right to feel differently. Democracy doesn't protect only the popular opinions.

[stop_him]

I do love all things elven as you might be able to tell, but everyone has the right to feel differently. Democracy doesn't protect only the popular opinions.

 

That may be, but I don't actively troll threads to the point of shutting the thread down just because I "don't like" something. 

[FemHawke FTW]

This is Janelle. She was one of my favorites, she looked like such a big badass when she shield bashed enemies.  I had a lot of fun and was sad to retire her.
 

 

 
I don't think she was happy with the color of her new armor.

She's gorgeous

[Qun00]

Some people say there is no compelling reason to join the Qun, but they just don't understand.

According to the Iron Bull, there are Tamassrans back in Par Vollen who are available for anyone in need of *special* healing. For free.




100% WORTH IT.

[Xilizhra]

Some people say there is no compelling reason to join the Qun, but they just don't understand.

According to the Iron Bull, there are Tamassrans back in Par Vollen who are available for anyone in need of *special* healing. For free.


100% WORTH IT.

And yet, Iron Bull said it was more fun outside the Qun.

[Qun00]

He meant the romance aspect. Less rituals /formalities like the selective breeding and such.

But the sex itself? Paradise in the form of horned booty, ha ha.

[Heimdall]

Yeah that's true and you raise a good point. I guess I just never really felt overly invested in the Hawke family, so the specialness of the specific tailoring that being a "human only" allowed was kinda lost on me. I felt more attached to the families we got to meet in Origins than I ever did to the Hawke family. Apart from the Champion, I only really liked/cared about Carver, but since I primarily play a rogue, he's not in most of my games sadly.

 

It's a personal thing I know and I also know a lot of people really loved Hawke and his/her family (I've seen plenty of people comment on Leandra's death being especially hard to bear while playing) but I think Bioware is capable of making the story feel involved and relevant with every race. Couslands had the whole Landsmeet + Arl Howe ordeal, the mages had the Circle of Magi, the city elf had the Alienage storyline, the dwarves had Orzammar (and this one was easily my favourite). The only origin that kinda got the shaft in that department was the Dalish elf but even then they had Tamlen's encounter later and some special interaction with Zathrian's clan.

 

By contrast how they dealt with the Inquisitor's background and making it relevant to the overall plot felt a bit shallow by Origins and even DA2's standards, though I loved the race reactivity. It felt like being a dwarf/elf/qunari Inquisitor actually mattered, at least in some circumstances (i.e. war table missions, dialogue, court approval, romance choice, etc). But that's a topic for another time, I'm reaching TL;DR status! 

All true, though I'd say they made up for the Dalish Origin's lack of content by having it come back in Witch Hunt.

 

I'm now imagining the scenario where we had a qunari as a set race option, a slave taken from the Qun as a child.  The could set up an interesting storyline of a character with a foot in both worlds and explore the qunari's potential origin in tevinter and their dragon blood. If there was only one choice, I doubt it would be qunari, but there are some interesting things they could do with it.