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[Nayana_Jaz]

I always have banters in Hinterlands. It's later in game when it's broken for me. 

 

Same here.

[Persephone]

Reporting in again after a reinstall on my new gaming rig.

 

Well, loading issues are history and the game looks fantastic.

 

But the banter issues persist since Patch 3, not a single of the fan workarounds helped either this time.

 

Yesterday I stood idle for 1.5 hours & gor ONE banter & three environmental comments. (Ok, I guess these count but ugh)

 

ATM, I'm running through a cleared Hinterlands with Solas, Viv and Blackwall. Utter silence. But the music & battle music works as intended now.

 

Re: The idle timer for banter to kick in.......nice idea in theory. But THIRTY MINUTES? Who thought that was a good idea? (If it's true)

 

BioWare, open a mouth. What did you do to fix it in Patch 3? 'cause for me, it worked far better with Patch 2. A bit erratically but at leased it worked.

 

*Disgusted noise*

[Illyria]

PC versions here.  Patch 3 killed banter for me.  Prior to patch 3 I had regular banter during my first trip to the Hinterlands and then after that my banter would be patchy but I'd have long moments of banter followed by hours of silence.  Post patch 3 I've spent 3 hours in the Hinterlands and had 1 peice of banter.

 

Please bring back banter trigger spots in addition to whatever system you're using now.  It's a good idea in theory but it clearly isn't working.

[Olwaye]

Okay, so...

 

Did not reinstall the game all patches are in (including patch 3.wait is that a patch loading).

I loaded my most advanced Inquisitor (Level 24, nearly all the area cleared) went to the Emerald Graves, waited still for 30minutes in silence (just hanged around the entrance of the Viridium mine), then banter started to kick in about every 12 to 15 minutes (3 actual banter and 3 "scenery" remarks). Went to the Hissing Wastes ( by going through the map "exit", not the menu), jog along the map, no banter for about 20 minutes and then banter kicks in every 10-15 minutes with the same mixture of proper party banter and "scenery" comments.

[Persephone]

Okay, so...

 

Did not reinstall the game all patches are in (including patch 3.wait is that a patch loading).

I loaded my most advanced Inquisitor (Level 24, nearly all the area cleared) went to the Emerald Graves, waited still for 30minutes in silence (just hanged around the entrance of the Viridium mine), then banter started to kick in about every 12 to 15 minutes (3 actual banter and 3 "scenery" remarks). Went to the Hissing Wastes ( by going through the map "exit", not the menu), jog along the map, no banter for about 20 minutes and then banter kicks in every 10-15 minutes with the same mixture of proper party banter and "scenery" comments.

I'm gonna give that a shot. Will report in later.

[Ghostsaxon]

Why are we hearing nothing from bioware???
Pc gamer reports they have enough save games to identify the issue..


But i here as much from bioware as i do my companions.. nothing..


Give us some info on when a fix will be released..

[Fredward]

Why are we hearing nothing from bioware???
Pc gamer reports they have enough save games to identify the issue..


But i here as much from bioware as i do my companions.. nothing..


Give us some info on when a fix will be released..

 

Yeah this silence is not cool. If they don't consider it a bug/can't replicate or fix it I'd like to know for sure so that I can stop hoping. If they are still working on it that'd be great to know too. If we're really lucky maybe they could even give a rough guesstimation for when a fix might arrive.

[Olwaye]

Okay, so...

 

Did not reinstall the game all patches are in (including patch 3.wait is that a patch loading).

I loaded my most advanced Inquisitor (Level 24, nearly all the area cleared) went to the Emerald Graves, waited still for 30minutes in silence (just hanged around the entrance of the Viridium mine), then banter started to kick in about every 12 to 15 minutes (3 actual banter and 3 "scenery" remarks). Went to the Hissing Wastes ( by going through the map "exit", not the menu), jog along the map, no banter for about 20 minutes and then banter kicks in every 10-15 minutes with the same mixture of proper party banter and "scenery" comments.

 

Quoting myself for continuity here.

 

Loaded the same Inquisitor, still in the Hissing Wastes, walked around harvesting, mining (Hell that particular inquisitor will be able to live like a king just by selling the stuff ) had a "weather/scenery" comment about 10 minutes after starting, then picked up a fight with some Venatori leftovers, picked up a codex note that launch a comment from the inquisitor and a response from one of the companion, then spoke with the chantry sister you find wandering in the Wastes, had a comment from one of the companion, and then had a proper banter at about 12 minutes from the very first one.

 

So it would seems that now the banter system work as intented for me if, scenery comments  counts has banter Plus I had to wait still for 30 minutes and it still feels a long time between banters.

 

Now I need to check with a less advanced Inquisitor if I still need to wait 30minutes for banter to kick in and if combats and other action reset that timer.

 

Will keep updated.

 

Would love to have feedback from Bioware (maybe if we empty our collective codex and journals, dance around our PC wrapped in ham with a tinfoil hat on our head, leave the room we are currently in by the window and reenter by the door, we will have fixed Bioware silence bug and have at least a one line post )

[RomanCG]

Oddly enough, I assumed it was just me as I'm playing the game on a newly built PC. I thought some game files didn't install or update correctly, It's somewhat good to know that it isn't just me 

[Vader20]

Party banter seems to be working in the Hinterlands for me.... NPC's seem to chat a lot more since patch 3 or I'm noticing it only now.

 

So, how often is this banter supposed to trigger ?

[Masque]

It seems like I was getting more party banter pre-patch than I am now. 

[Dalendria]

What I see it comes down to this:

Original intention:
-banter every 10-15 min
-music every 1.5 min for 10 seconds
-in Haven and Skyhold ongoing conversations between Npcs every time u pass by them including bystanders and messengers
-no music in Skyhold and the French city

What we get:
-a complete inconsistency In banter
-repeating dialogues
-no ambient music
-banter fires up in the middle of fight
-skipped dialogues in conversation
-missing armour noise
-missing Npcs chatters
-tent sleep music not played many times
-item menu cuts All sound except for footsteps
-mount cuts all music
-mount cuts all banter
-....
....

 

First, well said.

 

I am back again in this thread because of your post.  I am in the middle of my 5th PT. took a break to play another game. 2 PTs on PC and 3 on PS4.  I confirmed a while ago that there is really a banter bug and is not our imagination or misunderstanding.  After so many PTs, I know what to expect and before the patch the party banter was not working as intended.

 

"I know what to expect" or at least I thought I did.  Then I read your list above.  NPCs are supposed to talk when you pass by them?  I've heard that on a few but it is rare. "Tent sleep music?"  What is this?  I don't think I have ever heard music before or after resting in a tent.

 

At this point, I think there are serious issues with audio in this game.  On my PC PTs, I had limited banter on first run.  More on second but only after doing the many workarounds.  However, I thought the rest of audio was fine.  Then I play the PS4 version and start noticing some of the issues you listed.  On my 5th PT now, whenever I enter an area after loading screen, there is an audio delay.  It is like it takes some seconds before the audio pops in.  And there are glitches or hiccups sometimes.  It may be because I have played game so many times.  Now I am more focused on things happening in the background.  Either way, I have intermittent issues with audio not firing as intended (which probably also ties back to the banter bug).

 

I agree with you.  Bioware should accept that there is a defect or several with banter, audio, etc.  And have their team think outside the box and find the root cause.  There are too many people who have confirmed this before the patch.  I have not played the PC version since the patch.  It is sad to hear that people who never had issues have them now.  Again, this is further proof that something was broken in the core system.  All that has probably happened is they have shifted the root cause to another component.  I will play again soon to see my experience on PC.  Curious to see if I can get any banter now without workarounds (since I was one of those that had the banter bug in two different copies of the game).

 

Also, if they cannot or will not fix this, they should just say it.  That will allow people (current and future customers) to decide their next steps.  Play or not.  Buy or not.  Just be upfront about it.  Will go a long way to restoring credibility.

[Lohdahn]

Does anyone get banter in Val Royeux the shopping area or anywhere there? My members tend to be silent the whole time when there, its the only area I have this issue so I was wondering. I tried all of them btw.

[Dalendria]

If combat reset the timer than people wouldn't get banter right after combat

Chef you are right.

 

Combat is not impacting the timer.  I have had banter start and continue during combat.  That convo finishes then bam another one starts up within a minute of finishing the combat. But I have to point out, that I only get banter as intended when I do the workarounds.  Someday soon i will do a new PT since the patch and try to see the frequency of banter without the workarounds.

 

Workarounds - only fast travel from war table, clear the stars from quests and inventory items. reload from a manual or autosave.  when I do these, before patch, i get banter every 10 mins as Bioware stated.  sometimes banter will just stop for an hour in a zone where i usually get banter.  have not figured out why.  none of the workarounds work in that instance so i just quick playing.  when i log back in and redo the fast travel workaround, banter usually kicks back in every 10 mins as before.

 

Again, i have not tried anything since the last patch.  Just wanted to say that combat has no effect on the timer.

 

Also, if we are not supposed to have banter during combat, I have another defect in my game.  I have several instances (with video) where banter will fire off even though we are still in combat stance.  I am assuming they meant that it will not happen when in combat mode (which should include the stance).  Pretty much after 5 PTs  the behavior Bioware said should happen for banter is suspect in my two different versions of the game.  Yes, I do get banter sometimes every 10 mins (only after workarounds).  But the other things that should prevent it do not - i see enemies on radar but still have banter.  i am in combat mode but still have banter.  And i still get no random banter in Western Approach except when in Still Ruins, one of the camps and near the Gate of Toth.  Have quested in that area for 3-5 hrs straight with no random banter firing.  it is broke Bioware.  seriously broke.  unless you intended WA to be a banter free zone.

 

The banter and probably audio is bugged.  At this point, I doubt they will make any more attempts to "fix" the edge conditions and will never confirm that there is indeed a defect or several.

[Iakus]

Does anyone get banter in Val Royeux the shopping area or anywhere there? My members tend to be silent the whole time when there, its the only area I have this issue so I was wondering. I tried all of them btw.

There is not supposed to be banter or music in Val Royeaux

[DragonNerd]

Patch 3 killed banter for me. I used to hear a little banter, now I hear nothing.

 

I suggest a banter button, where players can trigger banter whenever they want -- provided they are in the field and not in combat. The banter button would have a cool down of twenty minutes to make abusing it/running out of banter more difficult. 

[QweenBeen]

Rerolling a new character did nothing for me unfortunately. My 2nd pt, I had banter before I barely left the hinterlands first camp but after patch 3 that pt got borked so I rolled a 3rd and now nothing. I was standing around for 20 minutes and no one said anything to eachother. Reading through these posts maybe I'll hang out for 30 minutes in camp and it'll kick in? I tried with and without the workaround but nothing.

There is replayability to this game, but not to the extent where I get half way through and suddenly everyone becomes a sullen teenager. I'm having a hard time finding the patience to play through that opening again. Would anyone recommend a 4th reroll or should I just wait???

[QweenBeen]

Does anyone get banter in Val Royeux the shopping area or anywhere there? My members tend to be silent the whole time when there, its the only area I have this issue so I was wondering. I tried all of them btw.

Banter isn't supposed to happen in VR so you're okay. It would be nice to hear sera and blackwall busting on those hoity toity Orlesians tho

[QweenBeen]

Patch 3 killed banter for me. I used to hear a little banter, now I hear nothing.
 
I suggest a banter button, where players can trigger banter whenever they want -- provided they are in the field and not in combat. The banter button would have a cool down of twenty minutes to make abusing it/running out of banter more difficult.

Honestly, if they can't figure out what's wrong this would be perfect. I'd take a 10-15 minute cooldown. Or they could hand over the reigns to the brilliant people in their fandom to see if they can figure it out? Open source the issue? I'd console command banter in DAO when I knew I was running around where there weren't triggers. Banternow I think it was. It was a nice treat and wasn't entirely emmersion breaking...it's more emmersion breaking to wait with bated breathe to see if they speak.

Kind of hard to save the world when you're standing in camp for 30 mins...

[Ashen Nedra]

Something that I've been wondering if it might be related to the issue: this game takes waaaaay too damn long to just exit so what I usually do is save the game, exit to menu, alt-tab and then close the game from the desktop. I can't really imagine why that would effect banter but I'm kinda desperate for an explanation that doesn't involve code fairies here.

Never alt-tab. It causes the bug.100% sure.

 

Never use Origin online after workarounds. The same.

 

Everything is reset by the synchronization. Play off-line or use Outcome.

[Peregrinus]

Never alt-tab. It causes the bug.100% sure.

 

Never use Origin online after workarounds. The same.

 

Everything is reset by the synchronization. Play off-line or use Outcome.

 

I'm not sure what kind of algorithm they are using for banter but it's seems so random.  I actually got some banter today at a rather steady pace today, unlike yesterday I got none.  Something is definitely flawed but unsure how to isolate it.   

[Ashen Nedra]

I'm not sure what kind of algorithm they are using for banter but it's seems so random.  I actually got some banter today at a rather steady pace today, unlike yesterday I got none.  Something is definitely flawed but unsure how to isolate it.   

Here Peregrinus, try this after deleting most of your saves if you still want to play (was before patch 3 or hotfix 42, or ninja fix 24, though).

 

It worked for me on my aborted second playthrough, also don't play more than 3 hours without restarting the game, don't get a horse before skyhold :

 

 

Ashen Nedra

Posted 10 January 2015 - 06:20 PM

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The solution is simple.

 

Play your PC game like a console game:  roll a new character, don't save manually (ever).  Periodically check that everything is 'working as intended' (ah ah ah ah aaaaaaaaaaaah....sorry) by fast traveling to a camp.  If you hear music when resting, you're good.

 

Otherwise, go to the war room and travel from there to Val Royaux (for instance) to reinitialize whatever poor programming is causing the problem again. 

 

Never back out of the Facebook game Wartable. 

 

Never fast travel to another zone from the map in this gorgeous semi (does this mean half-assed?) open world.  Always use the 'exits' of the zones to travel from one another.

 

And voilà.

 

Please somebody, for the love of Jesus the Inquisitor, post that on Twitter.

 

Hugs and kisses

[Antimateria82]

After the latest patch I usually get some banter after battle which really didn't happen so often before in that situation. And I get occasionally something if I roam a lot of time in the places of course with foot, usually like once in an hour or two. But it annoys me that if I remember right that if wartable music plays in skyhold it is kinda of a bug and they had it in one of those streams also, why they didn't fix it or whole sound system is beyond me. =)

[Eskan]

 

Here Peregrinus, try this after deleting most of your saves if you still want to play (was before patch 3 or hotfix 42, or ninja fix 24, though).

 

It worked for me on my aborted second playthrough, also don't play more than 3 hours without restarting the game, don't get a horse before skyhold :

 

 

Ashen Nedra

Posted 10 January 2015 - 06:20 PM

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The solution is simple.

 

Play your PC game like a console game:  roll a new character, don't save manually (ever).  Periodically check that everything is 'working as intended' (ah ah ah ah aaaaaaaaaaaah....sorry) by fast traveling to a camp.  If you hear music when resting, you're good.

 

Otherwise, go to the war room and travel from there to Val Royaux (for instance) to reinitialize whatever poor programming is causing the problem again. 

 

Never back out of the Facebook game Wartable. 

 

Never fast travel to another zone from the map in this gorgeous semi (does this mean half-assed?) open world.  Always use the 'exits' of the zones to travel from one another.

 

And voilà.

 

Please somebody, for the love of Jesus the Inquisitor, post that on Twitter.

 

Hugs and kisses

 

i try this, everywhere i have music but banter still dont work