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[Azrus]

It's not worth the trade off, you say you would like the in game kick in me3 but we had no in game kick.  Just play reactor hazard to see how often random team mates are more than happy to screw you over.  I can easily put up with leechers, whom i will kick or just leave after a game, it bothers me way less than getting kicked myself for no good reason at all and wasting 20 minutes.

I understand you're annoyed at losing that progress, but... really?  How often has this happened?  Hasn't happened to me at all yet.  I like that there's a penalty for getting kicked, even if that means occasionally I'll get kicked and lose a match worth of progress so they can make room for their friends.  Admittedly, it'd be nice if they'd not be jerks about it and just finish out the round, but what're you gonna do?  It's a single match in the face of hundreds, it's really not much of a loss.

 

Exactly. In game kick needs to be removed entirely. This is the internet we're talking about. I know from playing other games such as Destiny that there are many complete d*ckheads out there who think it's hilarious to kick someone seconds before a boss dies.

You can't kick someone on your own, so unless you're in a group with 3 d-bags, they're not going to get the votes to make it happen.  Nevermind the fact that it seems like most of the people playing aren't even aware there's an in-game kick function.

[Vishimtar]

I understand you're annoyed at losing that progress, but... really?  How often has this happened?  Hasn't happened to me at all yet.  I like that there's a penalty for getting kicked, even if that means occasionally I'll get kicked and lose a match worth of progress so they can make room for their friends.  Admittedly, it'd be nice if they'd not be jerks about it and just finish out the round, but what're you gonna do?  It's a single match in the face of hundreds, it's really not much of a loss.

 

You can't kick someone on your own, so unless you're in a group with 3 d-bags, they're not going to get the votes to make it happen.  Nevermind the fact that it seems like most of the people playing aren't even aware there's an in-game kick function.

 

With that horrible logic, you should work for free this year.  What, with it being only 1 year out of your 90-100 year lifespan.  No biggie.  Your employer will be most appreciative of your altruistic behavior, too! 

[Azrus]

Clearly your time is significantly more valuable than my own.

 

My point still stands.  I'd happily risk the rare case where I get kicked for a stupid reason if it means that there's some sort of penalty for being an idiot in matches, and if it means that I retain the ability to vote to kick someone who's acting like an idiot.  I'm sorry getting kicked from a match had such a devastating impact on your life.  Best of luck to you moving forward.  Leave vote to kick alone.

 

[edit] Whether or not the XP loss on kick/dc/exit was intended to be a penalty doesn't really matter to me.  It lends weight to the action of kicking.

[Shinnyshin]

It's not worth the trade off, you say you would like the in game kick in me3 but we had no in game kick.  Just play reactor hazard to see how often random team mates are more than happy to screw you over.  I can easily put up with leechers, whom i will kick or just leave after a game, it bothers me way less than getting kicked myself for no good reason at all and wasting 20 minutes.

Considering I've never been kicked once and I made use of the kick function 4 times today--and twice wished my other teammates would turn on their mics and figure out how to kick the afk as well--I have to disagree that the cost outweighs the benefits.  Even if I do get kicked once in a blue moon during leap year, the number of runs salvaged because of the kicking option will have vastly exceeded that by about fifty orders of magnitude.  Given how well it's working for me, I'm not sure you can make such a dismissively sweeping statement that it's no-contest not worth it.

 

Getting kicked may waste 20 minutes, true.  But what your argument consistently neglects is that not being able to kick can just as easily (more easily imo) waste 20 minutes as well.

[Sir Jessku]

For the people wanting to keep kick in game. Which idiots have you had to kick? I really haven't played with anyone screaming racial & homophobic slurs.
It's not a big deal either way but I prefer not to have it. Just creates more elitist issues.

[Beerfish]

I understand you're annoyed at losing that progress, but... really?  How often has this happened?  Hasn't happened to me at all yet.  I like that there's a penalty for getting kicked, even if that means occasionally I'll get kicked and lose a match worth of progress so they can make room for their friends.  Admittedly, it'd be nice if they'd not be jerks about it and just finish out the round, but what're you gonna do?  It's a single match in the face of hundreds, it's really not much of a loss.

 

You can't kick someone on your own, so unless you're in a group with 3 d-bags, they're not going to get the votes to make it happen.  Nevermind the fact that it seems like most of the people playing aren't even aware there's an in-game kick function.

Well it has happened to me twice in the 1st week and as players play in more groups it is apt to happen more often,  Considering how often I play the game if i play as much as me3 then the stats will grow.  It will be great to have 2 opponents left on a perilous game and find yourself back in the lobby.

[Beerfish]

Considering I've never been kicked once and I made use of the kick function 4 times today--and twice wished my other teammates would turn on their mics and figure out how to kick the afk as well--I have to disagree that the cost outweighs the benefits.  Even if I do get kicked once in a blue moon during leap year, the number of runs salvaged because of the kicking option will have vastly exceeded that by about fifty orders of magnitude.  Given how well it's working for me, I'm not sure you can make such a dismissively sweeping statement that it's no-contest not worth it.

 

Getting kicked may waste 20 minutes, true.  But what your argument consistently neglects is that not being able to kick can just as easily (more easily imo) waste 20 minutes as well.

You kicked people 4 times in one day?  Holy hell please tell me in detail why.

[Beerfish]

Considering I've never been kicked once and I made use of the kick function 4 times today--and twice wished my other teammates would turn on their mics and figure out how to kick the afk as well--I have to disagree that the cost outweighs the benefits.  Even if I do get kicked once in a blue moon during leap year, the number of runs salvaged because of the kicking option will have vastly exceeded that by about fifty orders of magnitude.  Given how well it's working for me, I'm not sure you can make such a dismissively sweeping statement that it's no-contest not worth it.

 

Getting kicked may waste 20 minutes, true.  But what your argument consistently neglects is that not being able to kick can just as easily (more easily imo) waste 20 minutes as well.

How so?  Please tell me how you have wasted 20 minutes if you have accumulated all treasure and exp from a game.  If you have one bad team mate it is not going to rob you of much.  And what a 'bad' team mate is is 100% a matter of opinion.

[N7 Tigger]

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You can't kick someone on your own, so unless you're in a group with 3 d-bags, they're not going to get the votes to make it happen.  Nevermind the fact that it seems like most of the people playing aren't even aware there's an in-game kick function.

 

Like I said, this is the internet. 3 d-bags aren't hard to find.

[Robbiesan]

+1

 

same for me yesterday.  in a match, team player here, but at wave 5 I got kicked without any verbal reason.  I assume it was to let a friend join, but who know.  It does suck though losing that XP.  We should be able to keep the XP gained up to the kick/disconnect.

[Shinnyshin]

You kicked people 4 times in one day?  Holy hell please tell me in detail why.

 

I played a looooot yesterday--enough to accumulate 5 people who were either AFK or not loading in properly whom I either kicked or wanted to kick.  The 6th was the only one kicked for performance as he kept rushing forward and porting us out of the room before we could even open chests in threatening, which is a pretty big gold loss.  We warned him a few times and then vote kicked.

 

How so?  Please tell me how you have wasted 20 minutes if you have accumulated all treasure and exp from a game.  If you have one bad team mate it is not going to rob you of much.  And what a 'bad' team mate is is 100% a matter of opinion.

AFKs aren't just "bad", they're not there entirely.  If you have an AFK or someone who has been loading in for 5 minutes, you clear significantly slower if at all, losing you a ton of gold and XP.  Plus you lose access to their class doors much of the time.  It can easily add up to 20 minutes.  Several of the times we kicked someone who wasn't there and got a replacement of the class we needed and then smoothly cleared.

 

You keep saying that it's not hard to find three very rude people on the internet, which is true...even if my own experience with randoms has been overwhelmingly positive and many of them are on my friend list.  But from my experiences, I'd say the odds of finding an AFK, an extreeeeeme lagger, or someone not connecting right are much, much higher than the odds of finding three tools in the same game who'll kick you.  Enough that the benefits outweigh the costs.

[Shadohz]

So after some 300 odd games I finally met a group of a-hole players willing to do a group kick at Zone 5 on the very last enemy. It was a Routine play so I wasn't terribly upset, but I was still somewhat miffed (enough to write a comment at least). All these guys were from Spain so I know it wasn't by accident that I got kicked (I wasn't doing anything to warrant it). Too bad there is a rule against name-dropping players. I went into XBL and set it "Avoid This Player" and problem resolved long-term (hopefully). I have had a couple of games where people rage-quit Zone 5 or just up and quit in the middle for no reason (not related to a game crash), so I can understand why people are upset about not getting their deserved XP.

[Moridan]

The only time I have ever kicked someone during a match was when they joined a Threatening match I had with a couple of friends, with a lvl 1 character.  I see kicking someone like this, in this situation as acceptable.  Agreed?

[Sir Jessku]

I got kicked in wave 3 yesterday. They had to make room for friend. No warning but I did send message "Wtf?" Nice of him to reply but this seems a problem. Guess it's too rare to freak out over but annoying.

[Beerfish]

I got kicked in wave 3 yesterday. They had to make room for friend. No warning but I did send message "Wtf?" Nice of him to reply but this seems a problem. Guess it's too rare to freak out over but annoying.

The dough heads should have set it to private and it's still being an ass to kick someone on wave 3 even for a friend. 

[VilniusNastavnik]

I do not like kicking people if it can be helped, but we had a rusher yesterday and they annoyed the crap out of us.. he was the only warrior, he ran ahead and we were calling him to come kick down the wall for the treasure room.. the git teleported us all.. so we kicked him at the end post game. 

[coldflame]

I do not like kicking people if it can be helped, but we had a rusher yesterday and they annoyed the crap out of us.. he was the only warrior, he ran ahead and we were calling him to come kick down the wall for the treasure room.. the git teleported us all.. so we kicked him at the end post game. 

... and the funny part was that he died a few times while running ahead face tanking everything... alone...

[veramis]

In neverwinter mmorpg, they implemented penalties for leaving pvp as well as strong incentives for people to join pvp, but had no means of kicking teammates. What happened was many people would enter pvp, and stand around the campfire, and repeat this several times a day in order to do their daily pvp quests.

 

If they removed kicking in DA3, all you have to do is do stage 1 and/or 2, then go afk for the next 3/4 stages. People aren't going to leave the game and suffer full xp removal. They are gonna try to three man, or two man it, and you get lots of $$$ and some xp for trolling the kick-free game.

[Zhen Dil Oloth]

If coding is the issue why allow kicking during a game? It's only 20 minutes. If some is a jerk just never group with them again. It builds character to tolerate the worst people. And again, you NEVER have to group with them after that 20 minute span.

We had one guy who stayed wayyyyy behind us pretty much the whole match.

 

Somehow we were nice enough and decided to 3 man the thing as opposed to kick him.

 

And then we all dies..... but the idiot still stayed behind waiting for....... God knows what.

 

So after waiting a while..... wondering WTF he was doing.... we finally lost patience and kicked him to end the mission.

 

I hadn't seen this many griefers and leachers since DCUO. 

 

Damn lots of bad players in this game.

[TeamLexana]

A player has to be pretty horrendously bad before I'll consent to kicking them midmatch, so if by chance I DO BOOT YOU, YOU DESERVED IT.

 

Not "you", you, op and readers, just a general "you", lol.