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[raef90]

TheNecroFiend wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...

I've put this into my last couple of community reports to the dev team (as well as the corrupted saves bug). Soon, we will be deciding on the contents of the next title update, so we should be able to let you know at least when/if it will be fixed.

I'm a pretty easy going guy. I've been patient. Even when the update broke our games, I was patient. But this is a slap in the face. Didn't bioware say that there would be a patch that would come with RTO that fixed some of the problems we were experiancing like the dex bug. Instead what did we get?  A fix for achievments. And now your telling us that a dex fix is a maybe at best.

Supposedly they did release a patch. It was to fix people's problems with getting achievements with the DLC's but nothing else. Thanks a lot again BW...

[zshuford]

Bioware seems more interested in the DLC. You pay them for DLC, after all. They don't get any extra money if they fix the dex bug. However, for the record, I did NOT buy ME2 as I had originally planned just because of this. I'll wait a year or so and pick it up in the bargain bin. Maybe by then whatever release bugs will be fixed (and if not, well, I'll just never buy it).

[grimtoothy]

If we xbox users had some recourse, like a toolset, I wouldn't mind so much. The community would be irrated, but would fix the problems ourselves.



But, without any toolset, we have no way to find out how this game is different from the PC version, let alone fix any of the problems.



I think they (Microsoft and /or Bioware) should rethink this.

[TheNecroFiend]

I believe in rewarding devs I like by buying their games brand new. But after DA I've decided just to buy Bioware games used. If they can't be bothered with console players I'll just give my money to EB games(even though I hate EB). So what if I miss out on whatever bonus promotion they intend to use. I'll vote with my wallet.

[Drayvenn]

grimtoothy wrote...

If we xbox users had some recourse, like a toolset, I wouldn't mind so much. The community would be irrated, but would fix the problems ourselves.

But, without any toolset, we have no way to find out how this game is different from the PC version, let alone fix any of the problems.

I think they (Microsoft and /or Bioware) should rethink this.

Although I understand why a toolset is not possible for Xbox I believe that it is EA/Biowares responsibility to give Xbox users the same bug fixes that the PC version gets since we are unable to fix it ourselves.  Most of us also paid more than our PC peers. 
The fact that a patch has been released for the PC shows that EA/Bioware consider these issues flaws and not the way the game was meant to be played. 
I understand that it will take longer because of the porting issue and Microsoft redtape but we deserve the same basic support that PC users get.

Modifié par Drayvenn, 09 février 2010 - 06:47 .

[zshuford]

TheNecroFiend wrote...

I believe in rewarding devs I like by buying their games brand new. But after DA I've decided just to buy Bioware games used. If they can't be bothered with console players I'll just give my money to EB games(even though I hate EB). So what if I miss out on whatever bonus promotion they intend to use. I'll vote with my wallet.

Go with ebay or Craigslist, then. You can usually find the game $5 to $10 cheaper that way.

[grimtoothy]

Is there a way to get some info on the xbox version? I'd like to look at how the pc game and the xbox version differ from one another. I've noticed some of the items are different for example.

[zshuford]

Well, you can install mods on the PC and add user-created content. IMO, if you have the option, there's no reason not to buy the PC version. Also, apparently, Bioware is actually supporting the PC version and patching bugs. Not so with the Xbox version. That's the only real differences.



If your computer can run it, the PC version is the one to have.

[13Dannyboy13]

zshuford wrote...

Well, you can install mods on the PC and add user-created content. IMO, if you have the option, there's no reason not to buy the PC version. Also, apparently, Bioware is actually supporting the PC version and patching bugs. Not so with the Xbox version. That's the only real differences.

If your computer can run it, the PC version is the one to have.

I agree completely, the toolset, user created mods, and patches put the pc version well above the xbox. It was the same way with oblivion, the amount of mods that the community makes it great they can add so much more to the game. Sadly I don't have the money to upgrade my pc, probably won't for a while

[BigJayhawk]

I was waiting on the patch, as I romanced Leliana too fast and I'm stuck.



Buying the game used won't be a tactic you can use too much longer as companies (well at least Bioware) and gone towards content that is "free" only with new copies of the game. That's what the Cerebus network in ME2 is all about as far as I can tell. Perhaps I'm wrong.

[13Dannyboy13]

Yeah seems that they want all the money they can get. 1200 MS points for cerberus network for ME2 makes buying used games not even worth it. Of course they blame it on piracy, even though for pc versions I'm sure you can find it for free, but for the people on consoles you're screwed unless you buy it new or find a really cheap used copy.

[13Dannyboy13]

Fizban1Kc wrote...

so basically, until they fix this your duel wielding rogue should have 36 dex (for all the moves) and 31 str if you want to wield two tier 7 longswords. extra points should go to con and cunning? and if you arent going to be a bard why do cunning at all past 22?

Cunning is for more than just bards, assassin gets a nice boost to backstab damage based on cunning, there is also the skill that lets rogues use cunning instead of strength as an attack modifier. Also one of the new abilities you get for rogue from wardens keep adds damage based on cunning I think. It's an important stat  for rogue in general, many of the rogues skills get bonuses based on cunning.

[raef90]

Fizban is talking in regards to the fact that you have to pump so much into str while this bug is in place for dual wielding rogues to even begin to hold their own in combat. But yes, once you get the cunning over str. modifier, cunning is definitely the way to go (especially if you are an assassin)

[Zald]

I cried the day I heard EA was buying Bioware. This is how EA does bizz. They pump out product, buy great reviews and totally ignore complaints about buggy games. Bioware was one of the best game companys, they supported their producst and not only listened to their user but responded to them.



Now look where we are today, the EA model at work. Outside of a Bioware game I had pledged not to spend a dime on a EA product. Now it looks like I am going to have to include Bioware in this. Sooooo very sad.

[jerms510]

wow, I'm bummed about this problem too but you guys sound like you're about to either slit your wrists or suicide bomb Bioware.

[BennyHartless]

zshuford wrote...

Bioware seems more interested in the DLC. You pay them for DLC, after all. They don't get any extra money if they fix the dex bug. However, for the record, I did NOT buy ME2 as I had originally planned just because of this. I'll wait a year or so and pick it up in the bargain bin. Maybe by then whatever release bugs will be fixed (and if not, well, I'll just never buy it).

     Exactly the same here, man.  Vote with your wallet.  EA/Bioware has already gotten more money out of me than they deserve on this release.  I got all the extras.  Books, tshirts, collectors edition, soundtrack.  Even the 30 seconds to mars album because it had the end track on it.  After RTO debacle, the "patch" for consoles, and the way I see ME2 owners are getting the same shaft DA owners did in the forums, I'm done.  Sorry Bioware.  We had a good run.  Have fun joining the rest of the studios getting liquidated these days.  Maybe you can buy a plot next to Pandemic.

Modifié par BennyHartless, 13 février 2010 - 12:04 .

[Natedogg9610]

Yep yep and yep. Add me to the "do not support Bioware on consoles" list from here on out.



I passed on ME2 because of this DA:O bug crap and exactly as BennyHartless says "the way I see ME2 owners are getting the same shaft DA owners did in the forums," I too, am done.



You can't treat your core fan-base like this Bioware or word will spread and not only will you lose my vote in the up-coming MMO election (yea you know what I'm talking about...SWTOR), you'll lose the votes from my friends and family.

[BennyHartless]

Who wants to take a roadtrip to Bioware studios for an intervention? "Bioware, we love you and care about you. We're here to support you. We just feel like you're not yourself lately. We think you may be hanging out with the wrong crowd *cough cough* EA *cough*. Show us on the financial pie chart where they touched you. "

[Pltdekker]

Give us a patch please... and yes, I agree, the purchase of Bioware by EA is unethical. enuff said.

[GEWill]

raef90 wrote...

Fizban is talking in regards to the fact that you have to pump so much into str while this bug is in place for dual wielding rogues to even begin to hold their own in combat. But yes, once you get the cunning over str. modifier, cunning is definitely the way to go (especially if you are an assassin)

That's BS. Rogues don't need to pump a lot into STR to hold there in combat. With all the armors, helmets, etc that boost STR it is easy to meet requirements to equip Longswords, Battle Axes, etc. My Rogue has 25 STR and after the bonuses from my helmet, and rings I can equip more than enough weapons to do sick damage. Cunning is a lot more important since you can use that to determine damage so anyone crying about having to spend points on STR doesn't know how to build their character.

[GEWill]

Pltdekker wrote...

Give us a patch please... and yes, I agree, the purchase of Bioware by EA is unethical. enuff said.

What exactly is unethical about it?

Bioware gets more financial backing from EA and they have continued to put out world class games. Enough said, thank you move along.

[ladydesire]

TheNecroFiend wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...

I've put this into my last couple of community reports to the dev team (as well as the corrupted saves bug). Soon, we will be deciding on the contents of the next title update, so we should be able to let you know at least when/if it will be fixed.

I'm a pretty easy going guy. I've been patient. Even when the update broke our games, I was patient. But this is a slap in the face. Didn't bioware say that there would be a patch that would come with RTO that fixed some of the problems we were experiancing like the dex bug. Instead what did we get?  A fix for achievments. And now your telling us that a dex fix is a maybe at best.

It probably depends on if what you are calling a bug is in fact different than how it works on PC; if the Xbox 360 version is the same as the current implimentation on PC, then it's likely that it works as intended, and you already had the fix that the PC users got.

[Pltdekker]

GEWill wrote...

Pltdekker wrote...

Give us a patch please... and yes, I agree, the purchase of Bioware by EA is unethical. enuff said.

What exactly is unethical about it?

Bioware gets more financial backing from EA and they have continued to put out world class games. Enough said, thank you move along.

Bioware makes amazing games, no doubt. Except i have seen it before, EA taking over a game studio, and decides to push the game for the money, and not the quality. Look at what happened with Westwood Studios. They made one of the world's biggest RTS series (C&C and C&C Red Alert), get taken over by EA, and everything goes down the drain, from customer service to quality of the games itself.

With EA handling Bioware's customer support  for DAO, things get ****ty real fast. Especially since i doubt there is much communication between EA's support and Bioware itself. From the experience I had with customer support for a number of issues, I've only got automated replies, including links to fixes that are actually outdated & do not work. 

Shame such a great studio is letting a ****ty company handle their stuff. With Bioware's reputation they could have had many other financial supporters, since they deliver quality. Except when it comes to patching, porting, & customer support.

Thats why Bioware should'nt have gone in bed with EA, & thats why its unethical.

Modifié par Pltdekker, 13 février 2010 - 10:55 .

[BennyHartless]

I would rather see bioware/blizzard/activision than bioware/ea