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Final Venatori round in 59 seconds. Bioware buff pls


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#76
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I have footage of me soloing the demon commander off host with an archer by doing exactly this. Uploading it now as part of my Archer build, I suggest you look at it before making such ridiculous statements. 

Not saying it works under perfect test conditions, but you know real battle is always different - guys bumping into you, a camera perspective getting wonky, getting stuck around object edges, friend Lag knocking for a visit.

The margin of error with the DC is just too little, sometimes it works out well - if it doesn't it's usually a wave 5 that is over quickly and leaves a flavour of BS around.


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Now do it with my two level 6 blue daggers and tell me she needs a buff. This game wasn't made just for you.

Alternatively, we could not try to balance the game around gear that 85% of the the people playing will replace in their first week.  But you know, that'd be just crazy.  Why would we possibly want the game to be balanced in the long run as opposed to right now.  Clearly my priorities are all sorts of wrong.

 

The entire attack is broken. This afternoon me and a friend were both killed by the Demon Commander when we had no line of sight on it. A boss that just erupts from the ground without warning and one-shots half the team needs looking into.

First off, you were aware that you had initiated the Demon Commander fight, right?  If so, and if they weren't on the screen, why were you standing next to your friend, and why weren't you looking for the boss, or moving so that you could dodge the Demon Commander when he inevitably shows up?  Until you know who's got aggro on the Demon Commander, you need to assume it's you.  If you don't see the Demon Commander, you shouldn't be standing still, and you definitely shouldn't be standing next to someone.  Furthermore, he doesn't pop up without warning.  He tags his target with a green/black marker before he strikes.  Keep an eye open for it.

 

Seriously, tactics for fighting the Demon Commander are plastered all over these forums.  If you're having difficulty with a boss, take a few minutes and scour the forums for tips on how to deal with them.


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I've been able to dodge the Demon Commander 50% of the time. Sometimes lag makes me fail, sometimes it's me not paying attention. I try my best to host my own games, or play with people I know who are in the same region as I, or hosts I know I have a good connection with.

 

As for the Venatori Commander, my Hunter, a Necro, a Legionnaire and a Keeper managed to kill her through AoE collateral damage on threatening. We had decent gear, I guess (no level 20+ weapons), and were focusing on clearing the adds first because we're an AoE heavy team. Somehow, she gets killed before her Brutes do, and we didn't even notice.

 

I guess a change in tactics would work best for her - use range to better advantage, maybe Fire Mine or Ice Mine to deny terrain and add some CC, spawn with a bunch of adds to keep her protected. She already kinda has a heavy-hitting attack with her Fire Barrage skill, which can be avoided (like all other boss moves), so she doesn't need another one.



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Says the guy who solos Platinum with a Volus. Nah, it ain't hard to paint when you're Picasso. You got that right...

 

What are you on about? I have never soloed platinum with a volus.

 

Stop making this out to be harder than it actually is.



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Why not? They really are a cakewalk compared to the other two. 

 

NOTHING should be done until the game is fixed.  When you stop getting "you must kill all enemies" against the red templars every other time you play, then maybe we should talk about other things...fixing issues should be first on the list though.



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Penguin, first Iet me thank you for the effort you make in posting builds and videos, which should help improve the skill level of the overall community.

 

Secondly, please stop the troll posting of buffing and nerfing this and that, when the game is not 2 week old yet.

As many said before, not everyone has super duper gear yet and the game is full of bugs that need to be gone.



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Penguin, first Iet me thank you for the effort you make in posting builds and videos, which should help improve the skill level of the overall community.

Secondly, please stop the troll posting of buffing and nerfing this and that, when the game is not 2 week old yet.
As many said before, not everyone has super duper gear yet and the game is full of bugs that need to be gone.

Completely agree with bugs being priority number 1. This isnt a troll post. Im absolutely serious with venatori being a cakewalk. I do feel demons are a bit too easy until the final room aswell.

This is also nothing to do with gear. Venatori are the by far easiest faction compared to the other two, even with the default bow.

I also dont think anything needs a nerf at this point. But your point is taken. Ill be good.

#83
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When I said that you need to remember us crappy casuals, I didnt mean I wouldnt welcome balancing in general. The demon commander mainly needs its visual cue could do with appearing a little earlier perhaps, to compensate for latency of players and give more time to avoid its attacks.

The venatori boss I certainly agree is the weakest link, but we need to make sure she isnt buffed too much if at all, because lots of players are struggling on routine easy mode in pugs. I know its mainly cos they havent really grasped stuff yet cos the games new, and they have no gear - at MEMP launch people struggled on easy too, silver was crazy hard and people were going nuts when they managed to pull off a gold. A year later we had people soloing platinum with drell vanguards.

This doesnt mean we need to balance NOW for the long run, balancing needs careful adjustment as the community evolves. It needs tailoring so that the players who want a challenge get one, while the vast majority (casuals who wont even frequent this forum) also need catering for. It should never be too easy or people will get bored, but you have to be really careful not to make it too frustrating or the main player base will just give up and play something easier.

Factions in MEMP were not balanced at first, everyone liked running reapers, but collectors were bloody hard with the seeker swarms early on. They balanced it out eventually, they made collectors easier, added new enemy units in all factions and made a new platinum difficulty. They even changed the maps themselves to provide a challenge, cos everybody was running glacier, cerberus, gold or whatever it was and the game was going bad because it was all you could find when looking for matches..

..so have faith. Its good to voice concerns. I am not a weak player, but playing with weak ones can cause problems as I cant really solo efficiently, especially against the demon commander unless I pick certain characters that can break from his stun. The average player doesnt frequent forums and lots are not aware of tactics regarding the demon commander, or in general. Often players wont pick a defensive position like the doorway and run off and die, often keepers somehow never cast barrier and support the tanks, also often people keep standing too close to each other when against the demon commander. These happen ALL the time. People still run off and agro mooks while the other three are in a treasure room, and sometimes they bleed out, or worse they open the bloody door and teleport everyone..

So, my point is - a straight up buff may not suit everyone just yet. The templar guy is easy too if you just keep your distance, but he at least feels like a threat. I cant judge the difficulty scaling as I havent played enough, but normal players havent a chance in hell against the other factions yet on medium difficulty with their current weapon levels. Something definately needs looking at, but just be wary about making it too hard.

#84
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'scuse my ignorance here but what is epeen? is it the bow? and what is the actual stats of the bow? I got a good unique bow yesterday and would like to compare.... :)



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Remember when ya'll said the Geth should be buffed? Do ya'll remember what happened to the Geth after that? 


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