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#276
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I agree I want to see my Warden return but not in a DLC. I think it's something to central and important to the plot to just be strapped on as DLC. It should be in the core game. Dragon age 4 perhaps.

 

Exactly. I'd love to have the Warden as a playable character again in a game of his or her own, not just some random NPC.


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After reading this forum I've come to the realization of many things.

First:
Our Warden, the HoF, is an undeniably loved character by many, myself included. I would love to see the Warden again. How? Doesn't matter just one more glimpse. Of all the characters of DA I feel it's not an understatement to say the Warden shines brightest in our hearts. Hawke has a lot of haters I did not hate him but I certainly did not need to see him DAI nor any other DA installment. The current inquisitor, he/she's cool... I mean don't get me wrong they are a great protagonist but there's just not a connection being built between myself and the inquisitor like there was between myself and the HoF.

Second:
Bioware is lazy as ****. We've seen it before, remember mass effect 3 the fate of Shepard, DA2, SWTOR? Enough said there.

Third:
There's so much speculation that there will be a DLC or a sequel with HoF... Wrong. I know it sucks I wish it wasn't true but it is there's no chance that we will ever see the HoF back again as an npc or a pc. Why? It's unfair in a way to us fans. You would think the devs of bioware would have some respect for their master piece creation origins and do so much as sum up the HoF's story completely give him the happy ending we all want so we can go on with ourselves but they won't. In my case, morrigan and my warden cousland will never be settled, they seemed like they would be for a time going off leaving together with their child but they brought back Morrigan and shattered that sentimental ending. Again I fond myself saying - why? And that's the thing. I don't know.

I don't get what they are doing with the HoF they had the chance to end it but they messed it up, why? They want to retire his story, they could have but they didn't. I don't know haha I'm ranting but I am just a confused fan wondering why my favorite character can't have a happy ending.

I would love to hear all your thoughts correct me if I was wrong at all :)
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I think s/he may be included in a Grey Warden themed DLC if s/he had not made the Ultimate Sacrifice and was the Warden-Commander in Awakening. Remember how Hawke was brought back because s/he fought Corypheus and knew about him. The Warden-Commander fought the Architect and learned a lot about the Architect and how he was the one who started the Fifth Blight so s/he might be brought back the same way Hawke was brought back. This way, it wouldn't be unfair for anyone. If the Hero of Ferelden sacrificed himself/herself, then the Warden-Commander would be simply the Orlesian Warden. If the Hero of Ferelden is alive, then s/he is the Warden-Commander. It's super easy to make this thanks to the Keep. Fair for all, profit for Bioware.

 

That would be a smart move for Bioware, considering the Warden's popularity. Warden had more votes than Hawke and Inquisitor combined in Ultimate Party. Top five comments were only about the Warden on FB page of Dragon Age, more than half of the rest were about the Warden as well. Perhaps Bioware/EA are aware that the Warden is a gold mine so they just don't end his/her story so easily. Because ending their story with a simple epilogue slide or a meaningless/unsatisfactory end would create a much greater frustration among DA fans than bringing him back in a most imperfect way. There are questions and demands about the Warden on almost every FB posts in Dragon Age page, even unrelated FB posts like Easter events posts lol :lol:


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Cassandra: I have good news. The Hero of Fereldan has joined the Inquisition. The Grey Warden will be working with Hawke on a special assignment.

Inquisitor: That's incredible. Can I talk to the legendary Dark Spawn slayer who ended the Fifth Blight?

Cassandra: Sadly not. The Grey Warden is busy with that special assignment.

 

[Some time later after the "Special Assignment"]

 

Inquisitor: I have waited so long for this. Can I just tell you what an honour it is to finally meet you.

Grey Warden: Umm. Thanks. I must apologise.

Inquisitor: You really don't have to apologise. I should apologise for allowing Cassandra to send you on that special assignment. You've done so much and yet we ask so much more from you.

Grey Warden: Please. Save your flattery. I am here to do a job. Nothing more, nothing less.

Inquisitor: [Says something referring to the Grey Warden's origin story]

Grey Warden: I'd prefer it if we didn't discuss this. I am here for one purpose. Dealing with the growing Darkspawn issue. Some of them can talk.

Inquisitor: I heard about that. Must have been quite interesting.

Grey Warden: Well my special assignment was to infiltrate a base that will full of them. We have a huge issue on our hands.

Inquisitor: So what do you suggest we do?

Grey Warden: Well. That involves putting your trust in a Darkspawn. The Darkspawn who saved my life.

 

[Camera pans to Inquisitor's face].

 

Inquisitor: Oh. Well that was unexpected.

Grey Warden: The Darkspawn found a cure to the Taint. But it comes at a cost...



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I think s/he may be included in a Grey Warden themed DLC if s/he had not made the Ultimate Sacrifice and was the Warden-Commander in Awakening. Remember how Hawke was brought back because s/he fought Corypheus and knew about him. The Warden-Commander fought the Architect and learned a lot about the Architect and how he was the one who started the Fifth Blight so s/he might be brought back the same way Hawke was brought back. This way, it wouldn't be unfair for anyone. If the Hero of Ferelden sacrificed himself/herself, then the Warden-Commander would be simply the Orlesian Warden. If the Hero of Ferelden is alive, then s/he is the Warden-Commander. It's super easy to make this thanks to the Keep. Fair for all, profit for Bioware.

 

That would be a smart move for Bioware, considering the Warden's popularity. Warden had more votes than Hawke and Inquisitor combined in Ultimate Party. Top five comments were only about the Warden on FB page of Dragon Age, more than half of the rest were about the Warden as well. Perhaps Bioware/EA are aware that the Warden is a gold mine so they just don't end his/her story so easily. Because ending their story with a simple epilogue slide or a meaningless/unsatisfactory end would create a much greater frustration among DA fans than bringing him back in a most imperfect way. There are questions and demands about the Warden on almost every FB posts in Dragon Age page, even unrelated FB posts like Easter events posts lol :lol:

 

You're ignoring the details. Just inserting the Orlesian Warden Commander is at least 2 more voice actors. Having the Hero of Ferelden voiced at all is a problem by BioWare's own admission. There's more to the situation then you would lead us to think.


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Oh I see. Is it HoF-thread Tuesday?

Same thread; same commentary:

Like many I friggin love my Warden and would jump in glee and joy if I saw the Warden return, I don't care how Bioware handles it; even if they decide to not let the HoF return. I can do with a letter, with a DLC, with a full game, I honestly don't care, I'll enjoy the **** out of it regardless.


But I'm one of the more tolerant fans when it boils down to the handling of previous PCs and a significant portion of the fans have a very specific image in their heads, want a dozen of voice actors to choose from ('cause they grow on trees ripe for the pickin' by Bioware, amirite?) and have all of their choices reflected in the game/DLC/whatever. If Bioware doesn't do that perfectly, the BSN and other social networks as well as reviews are going to explode. DA:I has a metacritic score of 5.8/10 last time I checked, largely because of rotten and sour fans handing out 0s because lolololfuckealololol and other bullshit reasons.

I can imagine the outrage being hysterical if the HoF isn't handled perfectly right for everyone and the costs could severely outweigh the profit. Personally not looking out for that.


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SWTOR

 

To be fair, SWTOR was more or less made by a different dev, EA rebranded the studio "bioware Austin" late in development for name recognition, and moved a few key bioware staff onto the project. It was hardly a bioware game. They did it with a few other studios as well, but they've close both of them down. Now BW has four teams if I remember correctly. Two in Edmonton, one in Montreal, and "bioware" Austin.


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Oh I see. Is it HoF-thread Tuesday?

Same thread; same commentary:

Like many I friggin love my Warden and would jump in glee and joy if I saw the Warden return, I don't care how Bioware handles it; even if they decide to not let the HoF return. I can do with a letter, with a DLC, with a full game, I honestly don't care, I'll enjoy the **** out of it regardless.


But I'm one of the more tolerant fans when it boils down to the handling of previous PCs and a significant portion of the fans have a very specific image in their heads, want a dozen of voice actors to choose from ('cause they grow on trees ripe for the pickin' by Bioware, amirite?) and have all of their choices reflected in the game/DLC/whatever. If Bioware doesn't do that perfectly, the BSN and other social networks as well as reviews are going to explode. DA:I has a metacritic score of 5.8/10 last time I checked, largely because of rotten and sour fans handing out 0s because lolololfuckealololol and other bullshit reasons.

I can imagine the outrage being hysterical if the HoF isn't handled perfectly right for everyone and the costs could severely outweigh the profit. Personally not looking out for that.

 

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I definitely want to play as the warden again but a dlc is too small IMO and would rather have a whole game.
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Could you please make a DLC about Hero of Ferelden ? I'm sooo disappoint that we can  meet Hawke and even play with him  during few missions, but HOF just desappeared when he/she's needed... That's so lame and unfair...

I don't like Hawke and had to deal with him, but HOF is a real character to me. I searched and hoped to see my warden during all the game and nothing happend.... Some letters isn't enough...

It won't happen for a very simple reason. Half of BioWare's community has a DEAD HoF. Not everybody decided to sacrifice another warden or participate in the dark ritual. Some actually engaged in the Ultimate Sacrifice, thus that expansion would be entirely wasted on them.

 

The only reason Hawke largely came back was to finish the DAII storyline and because he/she wasn't dead. Now that the player could choose whether Hawke could live or die, he/she is also unlikely to return in future games. Sorry. The Inquisitor is all you've got at this point.



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Where is Jade Empire 2???

Where is it??? Where the F is it??? Can I get Jade Empire 2 please? Pretty F-ing please!!!???



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Want to play the Hero of Ferelden again? That's easily done.

 

Start DA:Origins and roll up a new Warden-hero.

 

There ya go, a viable solution, and problem solved!

 

You don't need to thank me, not seeing all these damnable HoF threads anymore would be thanks enough.


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Want to play the Hero of Ferelden again? That's easily done.

Start DA:Origins and roll up a new Warden-hero.

There ya go, a viable solution, and problem solved!

You don't need to thank me, not seeing all these damnable HoF threads anymore would be thanks enough.


But didn't you know, it's hero of ferelden Monday.. Tomorrow it'll be romance option Tuesday.. Then amulets of power Wednesday.
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If they are trying that, then they are failing horribly at it. Pointing out that the hero is on a quest that could lead to a major plot development is a horrible way to try to step away from him.


Excepting that that quest was only added as fan service to those fans who can't let them go, and even that just made them unhappy. I have come down firmly against any further involvement from HoF, but I think I'm starting to see a way to make this all go away, once and for all:

Make the DLC. Make it sort of short and sweet, with the ending being the HoF dies, and give it Legacy type canon, even if you don't buy it, the events in the DLC happened. That way, it's over and done. People that refuse to buy it can simply be pointed to a Dev post stating that the events of "The death of the HoF" happen, whether you buy it or not.

"But Rob, player agency..." ended when people insisted that the devs take the next step.

"But Rob, it breaks my head canon..." Too bad, should have thought of that before people started cosigning DLC for the HoF. If you are incapable of closing the HoF's story on your own, and the Devs have to do it for you, this is what they should do, so that the rest of the community can go on w/out having to judge what day it is by whether or not a new HoF thread is on the forums. Before the "but you don't have to read it", "you didn't have to post it on a public forum that others have the same level of access to as you". You can bet your ass that if there was a special forum just for the HoF, there wouldn't be any new posts in it by me. My HoF is dead, she died ending the 5th Blight. There would be no reason for me to go there, or post there. This, however, is the General Discussion forum for Inquisition.
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But didn't you know, it's hero of ferelden Monday.. Tomorrow it'll be romance option Tuesday.. Then amulets of power Wednesday.

 

Mmm, then I think I'll go to sleep and wait for the "Cassandra is ugly I hate Sera why can't I romance Harding" Thursday  -_-

 

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Mmm, then I think I'll go to sleep and wait for the "Cassandra is ugly I hate Sera why can't I romance Harding" Thursday  -_-

Is it "My choices don't matter! Not a real RPG ehrmahgerd!" Friday yet?



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And right after that it's The Witcher 3 and Pillars of Eternity is better Saturday.



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I agree I want to see my Warden return but not in a DLC. I think it's something to central and important to the plot to just be strapped on as DLC. It should be in the core game. Dragon age 4 perhaps.

it would of been perfect if they where to aid us in the final battle with Hawke



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And right after that it's The Witcher 3 and Pillars of Eternity is better Saturday.

 

Oh I love Saturday  <3



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And right after that it's The Witcher 3 and Pillars of Eternity is better Saturday.

 

Actually that is every day, all day, Biowares own fault.



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I love my warden I do, but I don't want Bioware to ruin her like they did to my crappy Hawke, I would be just happy if I got a letter or Lelianna saying that the Hero of Fereldan was back with there love Intrest and rulling the county taint free


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I love my warden I do, but I don't want Bioware to ruin her like they did to my crappy Hawke, I would be just happy if I got a letter or Lelianna saying that the Hero of Fereldan was back with there love Intrest and rulling the county taint free

 

^^This. After seeing how the devs "ended" Shepard's story (and romance) in ME3, I prefer open endings and for the devs to leave my damned HoF alone. The most I want is either what you suggested, or, as someone on the first page suggested, a text-based game or story where we can end our HoF's story the way we want and load it in the Keep. And note that I said "how we want" rather than "choose a way to kill her/him."

 

If we can't get that, then I prefer the devs leave my HoF the hell alone. I don't want her dead, I don't want Alistair dumping her because he became some other woman's baby's daddy, I don't want him taking a blade through the gut for some jackass I could care less about, and I don't want him developing some asinine disease for which a cure is found five minutes after he's dead. Screw that. If you can't give me a good ending, then let me head canon it and have no one ever mention my HoF again. I'll go with the fic I'm writing instead, where the HoF finds a cure for the two of them (and possibly for the others, but it's dangerous) and manages to get knocked up to give him his heir. Much better than the depressofest BioWare would probably hand us.



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^^This. After seeing how the devs "ended" Shepard's story (and romance) in ME3, I prefer open endings and for the devs to leave my damned HoF alone. The most I want is either what you suggested, or, as someone on the first page suggested, a text-based game or story where we can end our HoF's story the way we want and load it in the Keep. And note that I said "how we want" rather than "choose a way to kill her/him."

 

If we can't get that, then I prefer the devs leave my HoF the hell alone. I don't want her dead, I don't want Alistair dumping her because he became some other woman's baby's daddy, I don't want him taking a blade through the gut for some jackass I could care less about, and I don't want him developing some asinine disease for which a cure is found five minutes after he's dead. Screw that. If you can't give me a good ending, then let me head canon it and have no one ever mention my HoF again. I'll go with the fic I'm writing instead, where the HoF finds a cure for the two of them (and possibly for the others, but it's dangerous) and manages to get knocked up to give him his heir. Much better than the depressofest BioWare would probably hand us.

I want to be the first to say I want to read your fanfiction when your done if thats alright :o