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#51
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Double Post but I still agree with myself from a minute ago.

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If they are trying that, then they are failing horribly at it. Pointing out that the hero is on a quest that could lead to a major plot development is a horrible way to try to step away from him. 

 

Or a great way to subtly introduce said plot a game or two before it resurfaces at the forefront.

 

If we ever do get more on that I fully expect them to just say "here's what the HoF found" and just take it from there.



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One of the few disappointments I had with this game is that the Warden is ignored. Especially since I've heard that Bioware devs have said in the past that he\she will play a part in Inquisition's story. Nothing of the sort.

 

Here's an idea for a DLC that will circumvent the issue of the Warden not having a voice or not feeling like "our Warden" if he appears on screen - make a DLC about him, but without him appearing on screen with the Inquisitor or indeed, ever talking.

 

In my mind I have this really fan servicey DLC, kind of like Citadel in ME3.

The Warden requests the Inquisition's help in curing the Calling, but perhaps you lose contact with him shortly after and try to track him down, which involves possibly seeking out his former friends - the likes of Zevran, Sten (now the Arishok), Alistair, and someone from his Origin story (Fergus for Human Noble, Shianni for City Elf, perhaps Irving or Greagoir for Mage, etc.).

 

Some decisions made in Origins will bear relevance, with possibly the Architect being of significance if he's alive as I imagine he might know something of use to the Warden if he's trying to cure the Calling. The love interest would play a part.

 

The difficulty here wouldn't be the Warden himself but the huge number of possible predicaments for these characters - Zevran and Alistair could be long dead, for instance.

And of course, the Warden himself could well be dead which would mean none of this even happens unless you use the Orlesian Warden from Awakening who wouldn't even know any of these characters.

 

It'd be insanely difficult to make but if they do manage it, they could wrap the Warden's story somehow in a 3-4 hours long DLC and give us some fanservice and closure and be done with it for good which I suspect they really want to.



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Man, here I am just being glad that the HoF is still alive and kicking on a quest and Leliana plans to reunite after the fuss is over. Maybe I'm particularly easy to please, but a quiet, off-screen sendoff wouldn't really bother me in the slightest, so long as it's not some stupid tragedy like "Warden slips on a bar of soap" or something.


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Even though I want to see HoF again what I have come to term with is that showing him up as NPC wouldn't be a good idea, it would be better if we could take control over Him or her and steer the conversations and so on. Otherwise it would be too difficult for Bioware to set the variables right for a NPC.

Besides I want to have a reunion scene with Leliana but I want to take control of the conversation I have with her.

What is better is this: we still have 2 old gods in the deep roads and a future Blight is guarantied. Hold the warden off until then and put him/her as Main PC in that.
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While this is all at the writers' whims, it would seem most sensible that any and every character that isn't some kind of ancient whatever will be long dead before another Blight occurs. I kind of hope that this whole Blight cycle is stopped dead in its tracks, finally putting an end to the need of Grey Wardens entirely.



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Ah yes.  Another thread about how the HoF should reappear as the protag.  Never you mind how the devs, multiple ones including the head writer of the series, have said that the Warden's story is over.

 

They aren't going to do it.  Why?  Because no matter what they do, it is going to ****** to many people off.  That's why they didn't have the Warden appear in Inquisition.  DG said that flat out.


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I think the next dlc/game would have mythal awaken the last old god (it is so bait she is an old god because of the Elven Pantheon/Old God relationship, you know...7 of them and sealed away etc.), the HoF would feel it in a vision and immediately investigates. He is attacked outnumbered while trying to stop Mythal, so he begins a journey to find his friends and his LI (in my case Morrigan) and possibly Kieran joining as a companion (if time skip is more or less 10 years).
In the final showdown, HoF somehow kills the archdemon (not Mythal), and he is not killed (possibly because he killed an Archdemon before, and survived). Then he faces Mythal and kills her, in a huge and awesome and LEGENDARY battle. Then we see HoF's Epilogue, with some badass ending (and if they were to kill Morrigan with DR epilogue i would go on a killing spree.)

That would be my dream ending.

Actually no, it will be in a comic i am planning to do...once

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I doubt your HOF will ever return, cause bioware made it clear that they want to stay away from him/her. Your Warden wonders around to find a "cure" to prevent the Calling when the world is on the brink of self destruction. They give Hawke the bloody spotlight and your Warden is invisible and insignificant again.
 
I would pay real money just to get a simple scene with Your Warden and a reunion. I mean come on, the Warden Commander is STILL ALIVE weather he/she is orlesian or fereldan. Unless BioWare has something planned and is ridiculously tight lipped about your Warden, they wouldn't just leave a character of importance wonder around with no real purpose. They said that your Warden and Hawke's stories are over yet there was Hawke in the middle of the siege of Adamant. There just has to be something for the future of DA4.
 
I get the feeling Bioware cares very little of your Warden. By the next Dragon Age game, we might get another protagonist that will make you forget about Hawke and The Inquisitor.
 
I don't think re-introducing your Warden would be as hard as many think. Bioware only used 4 voice actors for The Inquisitor, and so the same could be done for your Warden. Also, all of your Warden's choices are in The Keep. We'd probably have to recustomize their facial appearance but that ain't a big deal. But as i said, I doubt your HOF will ever return, cause bioware made it clear that they want to stay away from him/her.
 
But I still want Oghren back seeing as he was tossed out with no mention of his whereabouts. I really miss Steven Blum as Oghren.


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The only time you need a warden is during a blight

 

Except that The Warden was the original choice to lead the Inquisition  :)

 

I'd love to see The Warden again, personally. I honestly wouldn't regard them being voiced as that much of a big deal, providing they got the right voice actors. In regard to the "personality" of The Warden, the obvious solution to me seems to be to give as neutral responses as possible, but add choices to the Keep based on the "tone" of The Warden's voice we could pick in the Origins CC (I'd suggest, Wise, Cocky and Violent be included). 


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Someone mentioned DA:O2 in order to have HoF come back.  This would be great.  It could take into account relevant DA2 and DAI choices from the Keep, but would be the HoF (or Warden-Commander, whatever) as the main character.  DA:O2 - The Calling (or seriously whatever story bioware wanted here).    

 

My thought is that they could have DAI and DAO2 run in a parallel fashion. They could continue that plot and that trajectory as they move on to DA4 and DA5 (more action-RPG, new PCs every time, whatever) and allow the HoF his/her final (or not) adventure in an epic fashion.  

 

I mean I realize it would be a lot of resources, but I do honestly think DAI and DAO feel like two completely different series as far as gameplay is concerned, and the HoF is (for most DA fans) their most beloved character.  It'd be a great opportunity to bring back some old characters without it being too forced (since the HoF would actually know them), bring back tactical combat, the more story-based adventureand the more RPG feel, and also tie up loose ends without leaving us hanging forever.  

 

The idea of a parallel story to the Inquisitor's seems more and more intriguing the more I think about it.  



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Oops double post.  



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Could you please make a DLC about Hero of Ferelden ? I'm sooo disappoint that we can  meet Hawke and even play with him  during few missions, but HOF just desappeared when he/she's needed... That's so lame and unfair...

I don't like Hawke and had to deal with him, but HOF is a real character to me. I searched and hoped to see my warden during all the game and nothing happend.... Some letters isn't enough...

 

The Arishok has voiced his opinion about having a DLC about thr H.o.F

 


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I believe they gave the Warden a mission most in the forums can agree with so that they can get him/her out of the way permanently. I don't expect to see the Warden ever again.



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While this is all at the writers' whims, it would seem most sensible that any and every character that isn't some kind of ancient whatever will be long dead before another Blight occurs. I kind of hope that this whole Blight cycle is stopped dead in its tracks, finally putting an end to the need of Grey Wardens entirely.

From what it seems, the Blights appear to speeding up? 

 

This past Blight was only started by accident when the Architect found the Old God and tried to cure it of the Calling. With Flemeth seeking out souls and Solas doing whatever he's doing with Flemeth. There active movements to seek out the Old Gods by the Grey Wardens and by some unknowns in the Western Approach. Red Lyrium is sprouting up with it's connection to the Blight. I think another Blight is in store for Thedas in another few years or so....



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if there's one character i want back, it's Oghren. I'm still P!ssed off that Oghren never got any mentioned in DA2 and DA3. I don't care if his writing in Awakening was bad or he wasn't a key player like your warden, not hearing anything about him is a major insult seeing that he helped end the 5th blight. I don't understand why Bioware is completely ignoring his existence. 



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Why are you asking for the Wardens return? You know how they'll handle it...they'll put the Warden in the grave and let you visit it at best. The writers Pit was not joking when they said 'walking off into the sun set' is the kindest thing THEY can do to the Warden.



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I agree especially after DA:I teaser with the Warden trying to cure the calling

 

to just drop it would be silly

I don't see how bringing the Warden would be that difficult

they could easily let him/her voiceless and give us DA:O-style dialogue options



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I recall at some point that your Warden would be in place of Loghain/Alistair/Stroud. It's very likely that this was the plan at some point, and that BioWare wanted to stay away from it because they didn't want the backlash from putting your Warden in the game as a voiced character and forcing players to choose between the two previous protagonists. (Of course, I also think it's likely that Hawke was meant to be the protagonist of DA3 at some point during it's development.)
 
Still can you imagine the uproar if fans were made to choose between your HoF and Hawke?


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Hah imagine if Hawke was the Inquisitor and had to decide between the HOF and someone else. The forum would've been hilarious.
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In the grand scheme of things, what more exactly can be done with the HoF that isn't just to satisfy some players urges to see them/play as them again? Their story is done. Even the teaser plot about them looking for a cure for the taint doesn't require the HoF. It would have made just as much if not more sense if it was a different Warden doing so.



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It's like Revan all over again....people ask, demand a return of their self-insert character....and then scream in horror when the story they wanted is not the one Bioware chooses to tell.

 

Employ pattern recognition people.


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No. The Hero of Fereldan is the most badass character Bioware has made and he deserves his own trilogy. DLC won't do justice to the Warden. We should play as the Warden for at least two more games.



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From what it seems, the Blights appear to speeding up? 

 

This past Blight was only started by accident when the Architect found the Old God and tried to cure it of the Calling. With Flemeth seeking out souls and Solas doing whatever he's doing with Flemeth. There active movements to seek out the Old Gods by the Grey Wardens and by some unknowns in the Western Approach. Red Lyrium is sprouting up with it's connection to the Blight. I think another Blight is in store for Thedas in another few years or so....

speeding up? It was a long gap between the fourth and the fifth. Plus the shortest one ever.



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speeding up? It was a long gap between the fourth and the fifth. Plus the shortest one ever.

Not referring to the 4th Blight. Speeding up wasn't the right phrase. But just the emergence of forces that are actively either trying to stop Blights and forces that are bringing up Blighted things in general (Red Lyrium).