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Why would chosing not to use the dwarves make the writers "idiots"?

You tell me, seeing that you think they shouldn't be mentioned at all.  :angry: The decision behind this major storytelling would be fascinating to know, given the previous importance of this dwarven pair, but at this point it comes down to being little more than a WTF moment! Same can be said about Oghren, Why am i surrounded by numbskulls who think Oghren, Sandal ect are not important like the HOF? If you all think they are not that important then your warden should remain sidelined forever seeing how he/she is being ignored with a crappy reference "Oh yea I'm off to find this cure for the taint so i won't join ya" and also gives you a lousy belt as a parting gift. 

 

But i don't care about that, i just want to see Oghren again or at least have some mention about that Dwarf. I find it unlikely that those involved in the fifth blight would just drop off the face of the earth and not be mentioned. I would prefer talking with them directly, but war table missions, codex entries, party banter, NPC banter...that's just something. I don't believe he is with the HoF on the calling mission because Bioware is not willing to try to bring back HoF -- remember that in a lot of world states the HoF is dead, and no matter what they do, nobody will be happy with how their HoF appears in the new engine and with a voice. 

 

Oghren is mentioned in the Keep. They would not have bothered to code it if it was not needed.

 

I'd have more respect for the writers of bioware to come out and say, "Yeah we didn't like Oghren, that's why we didn't make any mention of that dwarf in DA2 and DAI."
 
Other then that, i heard that there might be a DLC or an Expansion to Dragon Age: Inquisition that will feature all the returning companions from the 2 games in some form or another. Weather that is true or not, remains to be seen.


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You tell me, seeing that you think they shouldn't be mentioned at all.  :angry: The decision behind this major storytelling would be fascinating to know, given the previous importance of this dwarven pair, but at this point it comes down to being little more than a WTF moment! Same can be said about Oghren, Why am i surrounded by numbskulls who think Oghren, Sandal ect are not important like the HOF? If you all think they are not that important then your warden should remain sidelined forever seeing how he/she is being ignored with a crappy reference "Oh yea I'm off to find this cure for the taint so i won't join ya" and also gives you a lousy belt as a parting gift.

 

So basically you can not answer my question, noted.

 

Oghren is mentioned in the Keep. They would not have bothered to code it if it was not needed.

 

1.Placed in the keep to be used if they so desired, but not mandatory.

 

2. Placed in the keep to give players the illusion of choice.



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I don't see the HoF's face being an issue. Without mods, all DAO player made faces are abominations so it can only get better for a DAI expansion.



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So basically you can not answer my question, noted.

Don't be a smart ass... You haven't answered mine. :angry: noted

 

1.Placed in the keep to be used if they so desired, but not mandatory.

 

2. Placed in the keep to give players the illusion of choice.

More like to p!ss off the fans...


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Don't be a smart ass... You haven't answered mine. :angry: noted

I asked a question, you refused to answer, and since I do not believe the devs are "Idiots" for not using the character as you want there's no point in responding to your query.

 

I'd have more respect for the writers of bioware to come out and say, "Yeah we didn't like Oghren, that's why we didn't make any mention of that dwarf in DA2 and DAI."

Bioware: "We didn't use Oghren because he didn't really fit into either sequel, and wasn't really popular enough for us to waste time and resources on." and then the Dev's would look into your horrified eyes and wave like this:

 

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Since you have not provided an answer to my question and since you appear to maintain the idea that past actions alone justify being given a spot in the game, I will state that I disagree, and move on.



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Bioware: "We didn't use Oghren because he didn't really fit into either sequel, and wasn't really popular enough for us to waste time and resources on." and then the Dev's would look into your horrified eyes and wave like this:

Nice try, but i rather hear it from the devs themselves and not someone like you so get lost.

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HoF DLC might work best like Leliana's Song. You recreate and play as either your Warden or the Orlesian Warden from Awakening. The story could take place right before or during the opening moments of DAI (maybe prior to In Hushed Whispers). The story is completely separate from DAI, purely being an adventure for your Warden, basically involving Calling Research just as the letter in DAI says.

No voice for the Warden... have them be like Grim of the Chargers but more subtle and perhaps using gestures. Have a companion character "translate" like Han Solo does Chewie or Luke and Threepio do R2. Explain the lack of voice as an injury to the Warden's throat/voice box. Maybe even show the injury occur and in a moment of badassery have the Warden overcome the attack, could be a neat opening to the story.

These ideas are freely given. I lay no claim to them. Just think they are a near perfect way to bring back the Warden for a last ME3 Citadel like DLC.
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Why would anyone seriously want Oghren to reappear in any major capacity? he was of little use in Origin's apart from being the stereotypical drunken dwarf & was even worse in Awakening
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Why would anyone seriously want Oghren to reappear in any major capacity? he was of little use in Origin's apart from being the stereotypical drunken dwarf & was even worse in Awakening

I don't care what he is to you or anyone else who think of him like that. Why would anyone seriously want the HOF to reappear in any major capacity if Bioware refuses to do it? Oghren should be brought back because he's funny to a good amount of people who really enjoy him and not just me. Oghren still believed in the dwarven tradition unlike Varric who is a surfacer, whose character has nothing to do with dwarven culture. It's thanks to you haters that Oghren was never mentioned in DA2 and DAI.



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Here you go: https://swordcoast.com/

 

Closest thing you're likely to get.

Heh, thanks.  I saw this a day or two ago and actually I think it'll fill my need for a D&D game (a proper one) that I've been waiting for since NWN2 (which was certainly flawed).  



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(Referring to Hawke/Quizzy romance)

 

Heck yeah. If that were possible, it'd be my canon timeline.

 

My every-RPG-I-ever-play headcanon is that the PC is sent from Valinor to fix yet another crappy world.  My two heroes always have the same names, and in Dragon Age they are my HoF and Inquisitor.  In my headcanon they are always soulmates - even if in the world they do not meet, and have other romances. So, I would potentially see a Inquisitor / HoF romance.  Although, honestly, I think they try to give each other space, given that they are together for eternity anyway.  

 

I've never said this to anyone before.  #Confessions #Dork


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As i said, i heard that there might be a DLC or an Expansion to Dragon Age: Inquisition that will feature all the returning companions from the 2 games in some form or another. Weather this is true or not, remains to be seen.



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It's thanks to you haters that Oghren was never mentioned in DA2 and DAI.


You say that like its a bad thing :P
Anyway, i wouldn't be bothered if the DA:O version of Oghren appeared since he learned not to be such a prat but the Awakening version should go die in the deep roads



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You say that like its a bad thing :P
Anyway, i wouldn't be bothered if the DA:O version of Oghren appeared since he learned not to be such a prat but the Awakening version should go die in the deep roads

Because it IS a bad thing, not hearing anything about Oghren is a major letdown to those who enjoy him.

 

As i said, How can anyone like Varric over Oghren? Varric was beyond boring whose character had nothing to do with dwarven culture. I never cared for Varric and hope to never see him again. The only reason he was brought back to DA:I because of Hawke and that was it.
 
Ok let me set the record straight about my complaint about the lack of Oghren in these games. it would make perfect sense for you Oghren haters out there for him to not be mentioned in Dragon Age 2 and 3 cause you claim that his character was messed up in Awakening that...
 
A: You left him to die at the hands of the Darkspawn during the assault on Vigil's keep if the fortress was not upgraded to withstand such an assault.
 
and B: You never helped him patch his relationship to Felsi and his kid.
 
Well for me it doesn't make any sense seeing as how in my playthrough he survived the assault on Vigil's Keep and I patched his relationship with Felsi. When i did that quest finding Nate Howe and he mentioned a Dwarf that was with him, i was hoping it was Oghren and to my surprise it was some dumb cousin to the Glavonak Bros. I really don't understand why in my playthrough of Dragon Age 2, it's treated as if Oghren did die in Vigil's keep assault a second time for no one to mention him.
 
Ok fine maybe in a DLC for Dragon Age 2. 1st comes Legacy, No Oghren, Strike 1. Next Comes Mark of the Assassin, I thought Oghren would make a cameo with Leliana at that Orlesian estate but nope i was wrong, it was just a cash grab for Felicia Day's character Tallis from that Redemption webseries so that's Strike 2.
 
Then i get word that Bioware decided to pull the plug on Dragon Age 2 in favor of Dragon Age: Inquisition. Well ok fine, I play the game and still nobody ever says a word about Oghren so that's Strike 3. I am tried of seeing Oghren getting the short end of the stick. I find it unlikely that those involved in the fifth blight would just drop off the face of the earth and not be heard from again. I would prefer talking with them directly, but war table missions, codex entries, party banter, NPC banter, That's really just something.


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As i said, i heard that there might be a DLC or an Expansion to Dragon Age: Inquisition that will feature all the returning companions from the 2 games in some form or another. Weather this is true or not, remains to be seen.


You mean you heard about someone's Citadel-induced wetdream? There is no credible source for such a rumor. Get over it.
 

Because it IS a bad thing, not hearing anything about Oghren is a major letdown to those who enjoy him.
 
As i said, How can anyone like Varric over Oghren? Varric was beyond boring whose character had nothing to do with dwarven culture.


How do you not see the hypocrisy here? You want Varric to be written off because YOU don't like him but seem to be taken aback that people don't want Oghren written back in.
 

I don't see the HoF's face being an issue. Without mods, all DAO player made faces are abominations so it can only get better for a DAI expansion.


Pfft. Look at my avatar. That's from a console. No mods what so ever.
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You mean you heard about someone's Citadel-induced wetdream? There is no credible source for such a rumor. Get over it.

What part of *Weather this is true or not, remains to be seen* didn't you understand?

 

How do you not see the hypocrisy here? You want Varric to be written off because YOU don't like him but seem to be taken aback that people don't want Oghren written back in.

Not just me, im sure others out there share the same thoughts about not liking Varric too And that's not hypocrisy. Why don't you Get over it.



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Why would anyone seriously want Oghren to reappear in any major capacity? he was of little use in Origin's apart from being the stereotypical drunken dwarf & was even worse in Awakening

"Good news lady, your single!" I loved him ever since. Especially when he started calling me old pal.

 

Awakening Oghren was a bit over the top, but he still had me in stitches at times like the joining or when the ghoul touches his junk.



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"Good news lady, your single!" I loved him ever since. Especially when he started calling me old pal.

 

Awakening Oghren was a bit over the top, but he still had me in stitches at times like the joining or when the ghoul touches his junk.

by stitches you mean laughter i hope. I'm sick to death of all these Oghren Haters. I can respect it in their playthough but not mine. Everyone's fighting to have their HOF be brought back so why can't it be the same for Oghren and the rest?



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I don't think we need the warden back but if it ever occurred I would hope it would something like Zambingo posted above.

 

I would like the story thread to be completed and not strung along indefinitely no matter who that angered so that we could move into DA4 free of the lingering shadow of the warden but that doesn't even need to happen with her/him as a playable character.

 

Steppenwolf and Zambingo making sense up in here ... that's all I have to add to this discussion. Peace.



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What part of *Weather this is true or not, remains to be seen* didn't you understand?


There's no reason to think it's true. Also, the weather is neither here nor there.
 

Not just me, im sure others out there share the same thoughts about not liking Varric too And that's not hypocrisy.


Who cares if others agree with you about Oghren? Plenty of people like Varric more. Are you right and they're wrong?
 

Why don't you Get over it.


The irony is just too much.

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There's no reason to think it's true. Also, the weather is neither here nor there.
 

Who cares if others agree with you about Oghren? Plenty of people like Varric more. Are you right and they're wrong?
 

The irony is just too much.

Like you know better... there is no right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinions and personal preference to the said character.

 

I fail to see what so great about Varric since many people think oghren is not that great. Is it becuase of Varric's chest hair crap? The irony is just too much.

 

Unless there is a real valid reason from the Devs themselves for Oghren not to be mentioned in the DA games outside of Orgins and not fans dumb speculations, "The story didn't call for him" or "His writing in Awakenking was bad", or anything related to those 2. I don't want to hear it until i get my answer....



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re: The HoF having no VA and instead has an injury to explain they no longer talk.

A way that this could be done and tie it to DAI is to have a Cory influenced warden betray our HoF. Perhaps an attack during sleeping, at the very least a surprise one. And the reason would be a demon-binding attempt. Sure the Wardens that were sacrificed in DAI were not mages and the HoF can be a mage, but really anyone killed for their blood could work. As such any class HoF could have this attack on them. Badassery ensues, it's easy to envision the HoF gripping his/her own neck with one hand and disposing of the Cory Cultist with the other hand... probably with the Murder Knife.

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I hate to break it to the Oghren fans, but it's already established Canon by the DrinkQuisition that Cabot murder knifed Oghren for stealing cookie dough.  Oghren has returned the the stone and will now influence provings as an ancestor.  He's gone.  Deal.With.It.

 

As for the HoF...  Man, no offense, but replay Origins if you want that so bad.  New story, new primary character.  Let's move on, shall we?



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Spoilers ahead:

 

 

 

Okay. So you know how everyone is saying the DLC or next game will either be the warden or the dread wolf?

 

I'm not sure why it wouldn't be both. If you think about it, Fen'Harel obviously had a way of contacting magisters. Otherwise, how could he have given Corypheus the orb? And if Cory can control Wardens and give them a fake Calling, it would make sense why the HoF/Warden commander would want to find a cure. And why wouldn't he try to track down the other 3 - the Architect being one of them? Especially considering his past with the Architect and the "Different Kind of Darkspawn" codex in DA:I.

 

I see these as wholly intertwined, and if you have one you NEED to have the other. So the question of HoF content in the future becomes moot. It's got to happen to continue. In what form, who knows? Personally, I'm hoping he has as much screen time as possible and would love to play him again with the Inquisitor as a companion. (Possible - they did it with Hawke, and easier to do than making HoF the companion or NPC.) But that's just me.



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I hate to break it to the Oghren fans, but it's already established Canon by the DrinkQuisition that Cabot murder knifed Oghren for stealing cookie dough.  Oghren has returned the the stone and will now influence provings as an ancestor.  He's gone.  Deal.With.It.

Show me the evidence that supports your claim for Oghren cause i have a hard time believing dumb speculations. People always say stuff like that but they have no proof whatsoever to back it up.