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[Barquiel]

I don't buy it.
 
They were given refuge in Redcliffe, one of the most definsible places in Ferelden. If the Templars truly were that insane to attack them, they could have weathered the storm in the castle and wait for the Ferelden army to come to their rescue.
 
Nah, let's sell just sell the entire population out to Tevinter instead!

Too bad. I told her that they rebelled for good reason

I can only judge from what is in the game. Fiona said they were certain the templars were coming. And I didn't see the Ferelden army.

That's still better than tranquility or being killed.

[Catche Jagger]

Quite apart from my obvious political views, the choice is between "investigate the templars who are acting like dicks" vs. "investigate the Tevinter cult calling themselves the Hunters who are obsessed with me and can warp time." It doesn't seem difficult.

 

Well, that's a matter of perspective. I can go in viewing the situation as "Seek the support of a group of rebel mages that is allied with with some weird Tevinters" or "Seek the support of the templars who are acting rather strangely (or like dicks, if you'd prefer)"

 

The difference is that I am looking at the quests in the same way that the advisers speak about them: It's about who's going to help us.

[Bigdoser]

investigate why The Lord Seeker is acting unusual, then things spiral out of control

Lord seeker acting unusual vs weird tevinter cult on our doorstep and they are obsessed with me in a deadly fashion. Eh I felt they could of done better with the lord seeker to make me want to go there. 

 

Well this is just my personal opinion. 

[The Baconer]

Two groups of people who should know better.

 

Flip a coin and conscript, but no alliances. Neither of these groups have earned the right.

[Xilizhra]

Well, that's a matter of perspective. I can go in viewing the situation as "Seek the support of a group of rebel mages that is allied with with some weird Tevinters" or "Seek the support of the templars who are acting rather strangely (or like dicks, if you'd prefer)"

 

The difference is that I am looking at the quests in the same way that the advisers speak about them: It's about who's going to help us.

Well, objectively speaking, either one might or might not be able to help with the Breach. Subjectively speaking, I support the mage rebellion wholeheartedly.

[Br3admax]

I can only judge from what is in the game. Fiona said they were certain the templars were coming. And I didn't see the Ferelden army.

That's still better than tranquility or being killed.

That's because they sold the immediate army in the area, this is a feudal society, to Tevinter. 

 

No it's really not. 

[Steelcan]

Again, that doesn't really stack up to "Tevinter time-warping cultists" in "things to be concerned about."
 
 
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. If you don't ever meet with that walking blasphemy unto the lore there's no troubles, just go straight to the Templar mission

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Are you being serious right now? Alistair/Anora invited them into Ferelden after the war started and protected them up until they sold Redcliffe citizens to Tevinter, 

 

And imagine the PR boost they would have gotten if they simply stood their ground.

 

"Brave mages defends the villagers of Redcliffe from Templars!"

 

investigate why The Lord Seeker is acting unusual, then things spiral out of control

 

Considering that our main character actually has read Varric's "Tales of the Champion", It's not too far fetched to imagine them going "Yep, the Lord Seeker is a Red Lyrium nutjob" which was my own thoughts after seeing his behavior in Orlais.

 

Ok, maybe that didn't turn out to be truth, but I was right that the Lord Seeker we saw was not being himself. The real one turned to have become insane and the one we saw was an envy demon.

[Steelcan]

There really shouldn't be doubt about the Templars' ability to help with the breach, it's magic, controlling and stopping magic is their thing

[Xilizhra]

. If you don't ever meet with that walking blasphemy unto the lore there's no troubles, just go straight to the Templar mission

If you want to go off half-cocked without exploring your options, sure.

 

 

There really shouldn't be doubt about the Templars' ability to help with the breach, it's magic, controlling and stopping magic is their thing

Not on a mass scale so far. Not as massive as the Breach, at any rate. We've never heard of them using their powers to thicken the Veil.

[Steelcan]

If you want to go off half-cocked without exploring your options, sure.
 
 

Not on a mass scale so far. Not as massive as the Breach, at any rate. We've never heard of them using their powers to thicken the Veil.

. It's an extension of exploring your options actually, aside from the "picking this will block off the other option" you actually don't go into it knowing what the result will be. Cassandra and Cullen are talking about how it's unusual for The Lord Seeker to be acting this way and how the rank and file will be amenable to your cause so you go to investigate

[Xilizhra]

. It's an extension of exploring your options actually, aside from the "picking this will block off the other option" you actually don't go into it knowing what the result will be. Cassandra and Cullen are talking about how it's unusual for The Lord Seeker to be acting this way and how the rank and file will be amenable to your cause so you go to investigate

It's obvious which choice will require far more investment, given the power requirements or lack thereof.

[Steelcan]

It's obvious which choice will require far more investment, given the power requirements or lack thereof.

. Both final missions require 15 power, it's just whether you go to Giona or the Templars first that really matters IMO

[Xilizhra]

. Both final missions require 15 power, it's just whether you go to Giona or the Templars first that really matters IMO

What matters is that it's much easier to investigate Redcliffe than Therinfal Redoubt. Then, after you do that, you learn about the Venatori, who seem to me like a much more urgent problem to actually spend your power investment on.

[Steelcan]

What matters is that it's much easier to investigate Redcliffe than Therinfal Redoubt. Then, after you do that, you learn about the Venatori, who seem to me like a much more urgent problem to actually spend your power investment on.

. Like I said its dependent on which lead you wish to follow up first.

I already had the 15 power because I can't not do everything, so I saved Val Royeaux for last then went straight for Therinfal

[Carmen_Willow]

I've done both now, either decision is good in terms of subsequent story telling. I guess it just depends on who you want to support.

My goody-two-shoes chantry noble sided with the Templars. My elven mage sided with the mages. It was great fun both ways.

[o Ventus]

Are you being serious right now? Alistair/Anora invited them into Ferelden after the war started and protected them up until they sold Redcliffe citizens to Tevinter, 

The mages didn't sell anyone to Tevinter. Alexius stepped in and took the city for himself after booting Teagan out as Arl. The mages themselves only allied with Tevinter because they were sure the Templars were going to kill them (which they were).

[Steelcan]

The mages didn't sell anyone to Tevinter. Alexius stepped in and took the city for himself after booting Teagan out as Arl. The mages themselves only allied with Tevinter because they were sure the Templars were going to kill them (which they were).

. They still gave sovereign Ferelden lands to Tevinter

[Tielis]

. They still gave sovereign Ferelden lands to Tevinter

 

And the king was PISSED.  That's pretty much all you need to know.  

[Mr.House]

I had the biggest grin on my face when Viv said that she should have been relegated to gardening.

I let out a cheer when I clicked on a mage running at me in Haven and saw Fionas name. THE WAIT WAS WORTH IT!

[EmissaryofLies]

Either way we get f*cked. Why not flip a coin?

 

I'd be mages if Thedas was stable for more than five minutes.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Oh easily the Templars. Not many mages train their magic for use in war or are fit to serve as soldiers, whereas Templars are elite combatants. Templars also negate hostile magic, which the enemies you're fighting (demons) have, whereas mages run the risk of possession by the enemy and biting you in the ass. And while neither side is very easy to trust, bad Templars are just brutes. Bad mages, on the other hand...

 

Not that I would turn away the mages' help in my task, I would just seek the Templars' help first, all things considered.

[Mr.House]

The mages didn't sell anyone to Tevinter. Alexius stepped in and took the city for himself after booting Teagan out as Arl. The mages themselves only allied with Tevinter because they were sure the Templars were going to kill them (which they were).

The agreement was that Redcliffe would be a safe haven for the mages, the mages betrayed that agreement when they allied and invited Tevinter. Fiona broke an agreement and keeps trying to defend it, she got what she deserved.

[AresKeith]

Pick Templars, you still get mages from recruiting Vivienne

[Mr.House]

Intresting fact, Fiona shows up ay Haven, Barris does not. Considering Barris was resisting the red lyruim, he most likely died fighting along with all the other non-corrupted templars that would have died without aid. Barris died fighting while Fiona just gave everything up. lol what an idiot.