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[raging_monkey]

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I call bs on the immunity to mind control unless seekers are possessed.

same but from horses mouth right. Gaider needs to clean up a bit. Cause pro-templars are getting way too much op support. Heck my templar pc is too much got rid off it 4 hours later

[Master Warder Z_]

Seekers should have been elite templar combatants in game.

Hell the Mage Templar war period should have been more widely featured.

[KainD]

Actually that already was demonstrated along with the ignition of lyrium in DOTS.

Cass gutted that SOB while he was gaping like an idiot.

Just standing there stunned.

 

A blood mage tried to mind-control Hawke, failed, doesn't mean that Hawke is absolutely immune to mind control. It means that it requires a more powerful mage.

[ComedicSociopathy]

There both jerks who hurt people. So, its sort of like picking a dried turd or a bloody douche. It's bad no matter what you do. 

[AresKeith]

Seekers should have been elite templar combatants in game.

Hell the Mage Templar war period should have been more widely featured.

 

That would've interfered with the Red Templar plot behind the Templars 

[Br3admax]

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We know that any spirit that leaves the Fade becomes maddened and violent, cole being the exception. Let's say that a spirit did appear in front of a Tranquil and assuming it reversed the Rite, it would have to either possess to remain sane or remain mad and attack. Solas said it himself, spirits can only survive by attaching themselves to something in the mortal world. We know that they can't possess or even see a tranquil via dreams since tranquil connection is cut from the fade. So that leaves only drawing the spirit out through a rift and sicking them on a Tranquil who will possess it just to survive. 

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It would go back to the Fade. Spirits only stay when they haven't completed whatever task they appear for. That's why you bring a spirit, and not say a demon. Spirit Cole makes it clear he can go back to the Fade any time he wants. As does the Spirit of Command in Crestwood.

[raging_monkey]

That would've interfered with the Red Templar plot behind the Templars

the reds kinda felt shoehorned a bit imo

[Master Warder Z_]

That would've interfered with the Red Templar plot behind the Templars

Only in so far as the branch in Orlais is concerned.

There were thirteen garrisons

I personally think the red templar issue only should have came up MUCH later.

You recuirt a faction and help them conclude their conflict in the region, that way you actually witness a bit of the Damn war they were building up for years.

Corruption in the ranks could have come when higher level officers or foreign reinforcements came in at the conclusion of the fight.

[raging_monkey]

Only in so far as the branch in Orlais is concerned.There were thirteen garrisonsI personally think the red templar issue only should have came up MUCH later.You recuirt a faction and help them conclude their conflict in the region, that way you actually witness a bit of the Damn war they were building up for years.Corruption in the ranks could have come when higher level officers or foreign reinforcements came in at the conclusion of the fight.

so rarly shown and somewhat down played

[Br3admax]

same but from horses mouth right. Gaider needs to clean up a bit. Cause pro-templars are getting way too much op support. Heck my templar pc is too much got rid off it 4 hours later

We accept your concession to our badassness. Actually rolling a Templar right now after I found out mages sold people to Tevinter. 

Only in so far as the branch in Orlais is concerned.

There were thirteen garrisons

I personally think the red templar issue only should have came up MUCH later.

You recuirt a faction and help them conclude their conflict in the region, that way you actually witness a bit of the Damn war they were building up for years.

Corruption in the ranks could have come when higher level officers or foreign reinforcements came in at the conclusion of the fight.

The entire order was sent to Therinfal.  "Lucius" rounded them all up from all over Southern Thedas

[Master Warder Z_]

The entire order was sent to Therinfal. "Lucius" rounded them all up from all over Southern Thedas

I know brad.

I'm just pointing out it didn't need to be that way.

[Br3admax]

Brad?

 

*eyetwitch

[raging_monkey]

We accept your concession to our badassness. Actually rolling a Templar right now after I found out mages sold people to Tevinter. The entire order was sent to Therinfal.  "Lucius" rounded them all up from all over Southern Thedas

i thought you always played templar? And idk if its a concession more a opinion made after i made a fun run(wasnt much fun due to how op it was)

[Tielis]

Spoiler

We know that any spirit that leaves the Fade becomes maddened and violent, cole being the exception. Let's say that a spirit did appear in front of a Tranquil and assuming it reversed the Rite, it would have to either possess to remain sane or remain mad and attack. Solas said it himself, spirits can only survive by attaching themselves to something in the mortal world. We know that they can't possess or even see a tranquil via dreams since tranquil connection is cut from the fade. So that leaves only drawing the spirit out through a rift and sicking them on a Tranquil who will possess it just to survive. 

 

Solas proves to you that this is not the case, and it is even in a codex entry.  A spirit becomes a demon if it is *summoned* to this world and *bound*, not if it comes of its own accord.  Cole is an example of this.

[AresKeith]

I know brad.

I'm just pointing out it didn't need to be that way.

 

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It was done that way because Cory wanted to turn them into Red Templars

[Br3admax]

i thought you always played templar? And idk if its a concession more a opinion made after i made a fun run(wasnt much fun due to how op it was)

I played pro-Templar, but I've only played as a mage so far. 

[Xilizhra]

I admit, it's a rather pleasant sight to see virtually the entire Templar Order join Corypheus.

 

Based Samson.

[AresKeith]

I admit, it's a rather pleasant sight to see virtually the entire Templar Order join Corypheus.

 

Based Samson.

 

You mean just like virtually the entire Rebel Mages join Cory also 

[Master Warder Z_]

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It was done that way because Cory wanted to turn them into Red Templars

Again you can still have that plot device.

Just let me fight a Damn war first!

[Br3admax]

The difference being the Templars are mind controlled into doing it with Tainted lyrium, while the mages join of their own freewill, which kind of pissed me off more than them selling out Ferelden. 

[Master Warder Z_]

I played pro-Templar, but I've only played as a mage so far.

My first run was a templar

Just to make him more powerful I gave him master corruption runes in his weapons and fire enchanted armor o.o

[raging_monkey]

I played pro-Templar, but I've only played as a mage so far.

ah i see thats my 5th playthrough pro-templar mage just cant decide on race yet.

I admit, it's a rather pleasant sight to see virtually the entire Templar Order join Corypheus. Based Samson.

makes its easier to give them mercy

You mean just like virtually the entire Rebel Mages join Cory also 

also makes it easier to give them mercy

[Xilizhra]

You mean just like virtually the entire Rebel Mages join Cory also 

Oh, I knew there'd be an option to destroy the mage rebellion. What I didn't know for sure was that there'd be a way to lead them to victory and wipe out the templars at the same time, which there was. Screw up however you like in your own playthroughs, I'm most satisfied.

[AresKeith]

Oh, I knew there'd be an option to destroy the mage rebellion. What I didn't know for sure was that there'd be a way to lead them to victory and wipe out the templars at the same time, which there was. Screw up however you like in your own playthroughs, I'm most satisfied.

 

Don't see how it's a screw up when you still get mages regardless of who you side with 

[Dabrikishaw]

Templars, then mages. I intend to go in that order from now because whichever you pick doesn't really matter anyway and it keeps extra playthoughs from being monogamous.