Yeah, because every book store should have a copy of Assassins for Dummies lol.I remember Artificer quest I had to do to just to unlock specialization. Spent around 10 hours grinding and looking for those Quillback Alphas that almost never spawned. Really boring and stupid MMO stuff. Should've been like in DAO where you got info from companions or by buying books on subject.
Quillback Intestines and Phoenix Tails: How to make the Western Approach not fun.
#26
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Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 10:50
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#27
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 11:34
I'll see your fetch quest and rise you 22 hours looking for Venatori tomes. Your move dude.
#28
Posté 05 décembre 2014 - 11:39
Wait wut, I got everything in around fifteen minutes of hunting. Though fast-travelling typically jogs the re-spawn on animals and I found FT to the bridge with the Darkspawn quest usually lands me right on top of two Phoenixes who nearly ate those troops stationed there lol
I was disappointed the Phoenixes weren't actually giant flaming birds and instead were Archaeopteryx's. Though I did attempt to run them over with my purple moose the first time I saw one.
@Stormback lol are you forgetting this is a video game? Like where you can walk outside and kill dragons with swords or see women turn into crows? But no, apparently a store selling an assassin book breaks your immersion lmao
- ZipZap2000 aime ceci
#29
Posté 08 décembre 2014 - 05:35
#30
Posté 08 décembre 2014 - 05:43
If you simply play the game and enjoy the sights, the interactions and the wandering about going from point to point, if you just allow the different lines of the story to guide you and stop worrying about MUST KILL EFFING DRAGON NAO! You're fine. You might actually enjoy the game. Whoa!
#31
Posté 08 décembre 2014 - 05:50
#32
Posté 08 décembre 2014 - 06:01
The RNG in this quest was insanely stupid and I did have some of the items before I got the quest.
#33
Posté 08 décembre 2014 - 06:18
I'll see your fetch quest and rise you 22 hours looking for Venatori tomes. Your move dude.
Another fetch quest that drove me nuts the venatoir encoded message quest. I had over 100 message fragments before I found 1 damn message cypher.
#34
Posté 10 décembre 2014 - 09:40
Man **** these quillbacks. Been murdering every quillback that's spawned in the area for the past 4 hours and ****** nothing but leather drops.
#35
Posté 16 décembre 2014 - 01:37
#36
Posté 16 décembre 2014 - 01:50
Generic fetch quests ruin nearly every zone. I almost wanted to kill myself after the Exalted Plains. I honestly thing the only two decent zones with regards to quests that are any decent are the Hissing Wastes and the Emprise du Lione, and the latter case is nearly ruined by labyrinthine level design.
#37
Posté 16 décembre 2014 - 01:53
#38
Posté 16 décembre 2014 - 01:58
There's multiple areas to get it btw, not just one.
#39
Posté 16 décembre 2014 - 04:47
trick is to forget about the stupid purple patch. they have the ability to drop from any quillback regardless of where in the approach you slay them.
- leadintea aime ceci
#40
Posté 16 décembre 2014 - 09:12
**** YOU BIOWARE for making us do this piece of sht. Nobody gives a fk about this sht quest if it werent for the dragon.
#41
Posté 16 décembre 2014 - 09:51
This is a stupid quest. Seriously, how many quillbacks are there running around the desert with no intestines? How are they alive? It reminds me of that quest in WoW where I was supposed to bring back 10 raptor heads but only every 5th raptor had a head for some reason.
- Addictress aime ceci
#42
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 11:35
Sounds like a whiner who just wont git gud. Artificial scarcity is a problem when it does not work well, but you cant just have everything handed to you casual. Take a few minutes a day to play dark souls then come back to DA, you'll have a new found respect.
#43
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 11:49
I have never had any issues with this. I have played through the game 4 times and never encounter your problem. Maybe it's you. Stop making excuses for your incompetence.
#44
Posté 24 décembre 2014 - 12:22
Sounds like a whiner who just wont git gud. Artificial scarcity is a problem when it does not work well, but you cant just have everything handed to you casual. Take a few minutes a day to play dark souls then come back to DA, you'll have a new found respect.
Idiot.
I hate trolls who have zero intellect. The OP never said he wanted an "I win button". It's good game mechanics to balance time vs reward. If an item is on a rare spawn then have it drop frequently.
If an item on a common mob, then have it be a less common spawn.
This is especially true when the drop is a common item in a multi-step quest.
As for your Dark Souls parallel, again. Stupidy. My dinner tonight was burnt. People in Africa don't have alot of food. Therefore I don't have a right to complain.
That's a Chewbacca defense
This is a the developers Dragon Age forum, the OP's complaints are valid.
- Virgulec aime ceci
#45
Posté 24 décembre 2014 - 12:24
Step 1: Create a fetch quest in which you must collect an unusual item from a specific creature.
Step 2: Make the unusual item only spawn in a select area of the map
Step 3: Adjust the item to have a not 100% drop rate for the animal
Step 4: Make the animals spawn ratio extremely limited so that there is no constant supply of said creature
Step 5: Force the player to rely solely on dumb luck that they get this quest necessary item.
Why bioware? Just why? It's been an hour and a half since I started the "How to Lure a Dragon" mission, and after getting the phoenix tail in the first minute of exploring the area, I have done nothing but go across this single strip of sand and stone back and forth, over and over, killing every enemy that spawns and hoping to get a quillback who happens to drop some entrails.
This is the type of ridiculous crap you'd see in a poorly coded MMO. A mission that requires you to farm in order to get a specific item from a specific enemy type. But the way quillbacks spawn in my game at least, they rarely if ever show up. When they do there's only 1, and when I kill it all I get is leather. I have enough quillback leather and paragon luster that I made new outfits for every single one of my companions, and I still have about 5 units of leather left over.
These types of missions have managed to kill any inertia I had for doing the western approach missions. This one I would say just might be the worst mission in the entire game. I want to say that, but I have a very bad feeling these types of missions show up in other areas.
So all I gotta ask bioware is why you thought this type of mechanic for a stupid fetch quest would be a good idea?
To the OP.
I was also having a problem on it.
I had Dorian in my team and he would ghost the mob.
Next time I spotted a quill, I controlled Dorian, and the Intestines dropped.
#46
Posté 24 décembre 2014 - 12:28
I don't usually go in for exploits, but when they're not for power gain, I can see the point.
IE - use the item dupe glitch.
#47
Posté 26 décembre 2014 - 02:08
Seriously. Unless they for odd lore reasons specified it be an unpuctured/ruptured/damaged set of intestines, why wouldn't you just gut them from any and every Quillback you slew? HELL, THERE ALREADY ARE A PAIR OF QUILLBACK CORPSES WITH THEIR STOMACHS FULL OF ORGANS....GAH....
As someone stuck on this quest right now I cannot overstate how much I keep shouting "They're right there! Pick them up!"
#48
Posté 26 décembre 2014 - 02:16
I had them before I had the quest
^
This... in 2 play-throughs... I never even tried looking for them... I just have them.
#49
Posté 26 décembre 2014 - 02:29
Step 1: Create a fetch quest in which you must collect an unusual item from a specific creature.
Step 2: Make the unusual item only spawn in a select area of the map
Step 3: Adjust the item to have a not 100% drop rate for the animal
Step 4: Make the animals spawn ratio extremely limited so that there is no constant supply of said creature
Step 5: Force the player to rely solely on dumb luck that they get this quest necessary item.
Why bioware? Just why? It's been an hour and a half since I started the "How to Lure a Dragon" mission, and after getting the phoenix tail in the first minute of exploring the area, I have done nothing but go across this single strip of sand and stone back and forth, over and over, killing every enemy that spawns and hoping to get a quillback who happens to drop some entrails.
This is the type of ridiculous crap you'd see in a poorly coded MMO. A mission that requires you to farm in order to get a specific item from a specific enemy type. But the way quillbacks spawn in my game at least, they rarely if ever show up. When they do there's only 1, and when I kill it all I get is leather. I have enough quillback leather and paragon luster that I made new outfits for every single one of my companions, and I still have about 5 units of leather left over.
These types of missions have managed to kill any inertia I had for doing the western approach missions. This one I would say just might be the worst mission in the entire game. I want to say that, but I have a very bad feeling these types of missions show up in other areas.
So all I gotta ask bioware is why you thought this type of mechanic for a stupid fetch quest would be a good idea?
You think that's bad? In the whole game you only encounter 5 Revenants who drop Revenant Hearts and you need 6 for a Superb Cleansing Rune. The only way to get more is to not close the rifts in the Exalted Plains that spawn them and then to farm those rifts.
So if you do your job right, you don't get the resources you need. Wonderful.
#50
Posté 26 décembre 2014 - 02:33
I think players who went rogue class had an easier time with this quest then most. Quillback packs spawn everywhere in western approach for one the specialization quests.
You think that's bad? In the whole game you only encounter 5 Revenants who drop Revenant Hearts and you need 6 for a Superb Cleansing Rune. The only way to get more is to not close the rifts in the Exalted Plains that spawn them and then to farm those rifts.
So if you do your job right, you don't get the resources you need. Wonderful.
This would be my biggest resource complaint. Revenant hearts are just so ridiculously rare.





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