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Quillback Intestines and Phoenix Tails: How to make the Western Approach not fun.


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I remember Artificer quest I had to do to just to unlock specialization. Spent around 10 hours grinding and looking for those Quillback Alphas that almost never spawned. Really boring and stupid MMO stuff. Should've been like in DAO where you got info from companions or by buying books on subject.

Yeah, because every book store should have a copy of Assassins for Dummies lol.

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I'll see your fetch quest and rise you 22 hours looking for Venatori tomes. Your move dude.



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Wait wut, I got everything in around fifteen minutes of hunting. Though fast-travelling typically jogs the re-spawn on animals and I found FT to the bridge with the Darkspawn quest usually lands me right on top of two Phoenixes who nearly ate those troops stationed there lol

 

I was disappointed the Phoenixes weren't actually giant flaming birds and instead were Archaeopteryx's. Though I did attempt to run them over with my purple moose the first time I saw one.

 

@Stormback lol are you forgetting this is a video game? Like where you can walk outside and kill dragons with swords or see women turn into crows? But no, apparently a store selling an assassin book breaks your immersion lmao


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I think I may have solved the issue, or just got real lucky. I spent a long time in the area trying to get the intestines. I gave up and started doing fred's other quests. After I removed the traps and killed the bandits, Fred said all he needed were the lure ingredients. The very next kill I got in the purple area gave me the intestines.

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I've done this quest 3 times now, and EVERY time I simply quested about the zone, never even having to think about this particular quest and having it done before I even get it.

If you simply play the game and enjoy the sights, the interactions and the wandering about going from point to point, if you just allow the different lines of the story to guide you and stop worrying about MUST KILL EFFING DRAGON NAO! You're fine. You might actually enjoy the game. Whoa!

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Yeah, I killed loads of quill backs before I even found the researchers, so I had all the items already and just handed them over. You're doing it wrong.

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The RNG in this quest was insanely stupid and I did have some of the items before I got the quest.



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I'll see your fetch quest and rise you 22 hours looking for Venatori tomes. Your move dude.

Another fetch quest that drove me nuts the venatoir encoded message quest. I had over 100 message fragments before I found 1 damn message cypher.



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Man **** these quillbacks. Been murdering every quillback that's spawned in the area for the past 4 hours and ****** nothing but leather drops.



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That's not the main problem with this dragon...its that it takes like 10 fetch quests to finally kill it! This is so annoying!

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Generic fetch quests ruin nearly every zone. I almost wanted to kill myself after the Exalted Plains. I honestly thing the only two decent zones with regards to quests that are any decent are the Hissing Wastes and the Emprise du Lione, and the latter case is nearly ruined by labyrinthine level design.



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It's worth it, if only to hear Iron Bull and Sera get orgasmic as it flies in and circles.

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Wrapped this quest up in a matter of minutes.

There's multiple areas to get it btw, not just one.

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trick is to forget about the stupid purple patch. they have the ability to drop from any quillback regardless of where in the approach you slay them.


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**** YOU BIOWARE for making us do this piece of sht. Nobody gives a fk about this sht quest if it werent for the dragon. 



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This is a stupid quest. Seriously, how many quillbacks are there running around the desert with no intestines? How are they alive? It reminds me of that quest in WoW where I was supposed to bring back 10 raptor heads but only every 5th raptor had a head for some reason. 


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Sounds like a whiner who just wont git gud. Artificial scarcity is a problem when it does not work well, but you cant just have everything handed to you casual. Take a few minutes a day to play dark souls then come back to DA, you'll have a new found respect. 



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I have never had any issues with this. I have played through the game 4 times and never encounter your problem. Maybe it's you. Stop making excuses for your incompetence.



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Sounds like a whiner who just wont git gud. Artificial scarcity is a problem when it does not work well, but you cant just have everything handed to you casual. Take a few minutes a day to play dark souls then come back to DA, you'll have a new found respect. 

 

Idiot.

I hate trolls who have zero intellect. The OP never said he wanted an "I win button". It's good game mechanics to balance time vs reward. If an item is on a rare spawn then have it drop frequently.

If an item on a common mob, then have it be a less common spawn.

This is especially true when the drop is a common item in a multi-step quest.

 

As for your Dark Souls parallel, again. Stupidy. My dinner tonight was burnt. People in Africa don't have alot of food. Therefore I don't have a right to complain.

That's a Chewbacca defense

 

This is a the developers Dragon Age forum, the OP's complaints are valid.   


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Step 1: Create a fetch quest in which you must collect an unusual item from a specific creature.

Step 2: Make the unusual item only spawn in a select area of the map

Step 3: Adjust the item to have a not 100% drop rate for the animal

Step 4: Make the animals spawn ratio extremely limited so that there is no constant supply of said creature

Step 5: Force the player to rely solely on dumb luck that they get this quest necessary item.

 

Why bioware? Just why? It's been an hour and a half since I started the "How to Lure a Dragon" mission, and after getting the phoenix tail in the first minute of exploring the area, I have done nothing but go across this single strip of sand and stone back and forth, over and over, killing every enemy that spawns and hoping to get a quillback who happens to drop some entrails.

 

This is the type of ridiculous crap you'd see in a poorly coded MMO. A mission that requires you to farm in order to get a specific item from a specific enemy type. But the way quillbacks spawn in my game at least, they rarely if ever show up. When they do there's only 1, and when I kill it all I get is leather. I have enough quillback leather and paragon luster that I made new outfits for every single one of my companions, and I still have about 5 units of leather left over.

 

These types of missions have managed to kill any inertia I had for doing the western approach missions. This one I would say just might be the worst mission in the entire game. I want to say that, but I have a very bad feeling these types of missions show up in other areas.

 

So all I gotta ask bioware is why you thought this type of mechanic for a stupid fetch quest would be a good idea?

 

To the OP.

I was also having a problem on it.

I had Dorian in my team and he would ghost the mob.

 

Next time I spotted a quill, I controlled Dorian, and the Intestines dropped.



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I don't usually go in for exploits, but when they're not for power gain, I can see the point.

 

IE - use the item dupe glitch. 



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Seriously. Unless they for odd lore reasons specified it be an unpuctured/ruptured/damaged set of intestines, why wouldn't you just gut them from any and every Quillback you slew? HELL, THERE ALREADY ARE A PAIR OF QUILLBACK CORPSES WITH THEIR STOMACHS FULL OF ORGANS....GAH.... :angry:


As someone stuck on this quest right now I cannot overstate how much I keep shouting "They're right there! Pick them up!"

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I had them before I had the quest :blink:

 

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This... in 2 play-throughs... I never even tried looking for them... I just have them.



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Step 1: Create a fetch quest in which you must collect an unusual item from a specific creature.
Step 2: Make the unusual item only spawn in a select area of the map
Step 3: Adjust the item to have a not 100% drop rate for the animal
Step 4: Make the animals spawn ratio extremely limited so that there is no constant supply of said creature
Step 5: Force the player to rely solely on dumb luck that they get this quest necessary item.
 
Why bioware? Just why? It's been an hour and a half since I started the "How to Lure a Dragon" mission, and after getting the phoenix tail in the first minute of exploring the area, I have done nothing but go across this single strip of sand and stone back and forth, over and over, killing every enemy that spawns and hoping to get a quillback who happens to drop some entrails.
 
This is the type of ridiculous crap you'd see in a poorly coded MMO. A mission that requires you to farm in order to get a specific item from a specific enemy type. But the way quillbacks spawn in my game at least, they rarely if ever show up. When they do there's only 1, and when I kill it all I get is leather. I have enough quillback leather and paragon luster that I made new outfits for every single one of my companions, and I still have about 5 units of leather left over.
 
These types of missions have managed to kill any inertia I had for doing the western approach missions. This one I would say just might be the worst mission in the entire game. I want to say that, but I have a very bad feeling these types of missions show up in other areas.
 
So all I gotta ask bioware is why you thought this type of mechanic for a stupid fetch quest would be a good idea?


You think that's bad? In the whole game you only encounter 5 Revenants who drop Revenant Hearts and you need 6 for a Superb Cleansing Rune. The only way to get more is to not close the rifts in the Exalted Plains that spawn them and then to farm those rifts.

So if you do your job right, you don't get the resources you need. Wonderful.

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I think players who went rogue class had an easier time with this quest then most. Quillback packs spawn everywhere in western approach for one the specialization quests. 
 

 

You think that's bad? In the whole game you only encounter 5 Revenants who drop Revenant Hearts and you need 6 for a Superb Cleansing Rune. The only way to get more is to not close the rifts in the Exalted Plains that spawn them and then to farm those rifts.

So if you do your job right, you don't get the resources you need. Wonderful.

 

This would be my biggest resource complaint.  Revenant hearts are just so ridiculously rare.