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[Shardik1]

For my tastes, after 70 hours in the game, it seems so tedious with a storyline so broken with gathering quests that I can't care about the characters like I did in the first two installments.  This really saddens me as I was expecting something similar to the preceding games in the series.  I even built a new computer that pretty much doubled the "recommended" hardware suggested by BW.

 

After finishing the first two games with all the DLC ever offered, I was stoked as even the replays of DA rocked and had me following the story lines, loving my traveling companions, picking every answer and action seriously and spending my level up points carefully.  After so much time in Inquisition, There isn't much of that for me that I can see as the quests seem more like chores than something to do with the story line. 

 

I know there's a lot of people here who think the game is great and I say "good for them."  I wish I was there with you.  But this is just my opinion only based on what I like and what I expected. 

 

Guess I'll reinstall my ME series back onto my new box and maybe come back to this later or maybe I'll come back sooner and squeak it out so I can at least say I finished it.

 

Sigh.

[Nayawk]

I did one complete play through, with every quest I could find, and yes it can make the main storyline feel less urgent and more bitsy than DA:O and DA2. But it is helpful to remember that a lot of the quest are completely optional.

 

My next 3 'canon' play throughs will be main story only focused, with a combination of companion quests and major area quests for power.  Optional quests are just that, optional. Feel like you are getting bored, losing focus, or that sense of urgency then stop doing them.

[Futhark]

Most of side quests are boring indeed, some people could say: don't like them?Don't do them. ...but without this quests, game is too short and don't require your character to be at max lvl(last quest: 17-19lvl)...I honestly didn't expect Main Quest to be so short...

 

In matter of quests DA:I feels like Skyrim - short Main Story and endless boring bounty quests, but without other great chain quests like Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood etc...

[Jeradon]

It feels like Skyrim indeed  but with a party. Honestly DA O (and Awakening) was a different kind of game with a gripping storyline , but the player was confined to corridors . This time we are free to explore (and get bored but that's another story ). Beyond that I only played for 20 hours and I am still methodically exploring the hinterlands. I suppose I will reconnect with the main quest line when I decide to leave the locals alone and minding my own Breach-closing business instead.

[Shardik1]

Yes, I am free to turn down quests as well as not leveling or upgrading weapons and armor.  But doing that leaves out the majority of the game.

[Bioware-Critic]

I think this is a pretty clear case all in all!

 

It is what it is. And sadly nothing more...

 

Most of us were excited and got hugely disappointed. And as a result we are standing in the rain...

There is no great mystery or another side to it. DA:O (...like other titles out there...) was better in the gameplay department and the traditionally RPG stuff aswell. We were hoping for DA:O 2 and got tricket into believing we will get that by the PR and now we are standing in the rain. And anybody who has any hope that Bioware will fix any of this is deluding himself. You will get wet standing in the rain and catch a cold. Nothing else. EA tells them what to do. Bioware got pretty much used to it by now and have probably drunken the "cool aid" from EA, if I would have to guess!

 

The EA - Cool Aid:

"Mass Market, Mass Market, Mass Market, ... millions and millions of casual gamers (who do not exist!) will by our games - I mean your games. Think of all that money - I mean all the growth your development studio will experience! Did you see all money the candy crush guys made with their titles, lets build some of their stuff into the ME3 multiplayer! Did you see how many people bought skyrim, that's easy enough to copy in a one year spontanious effort. Let's do that also. And hey did anybody see how many people play f2p MMO games let's take some hints from there. We will cater to EVERYONE and EVERYBODY, YES, YES, YES - this will be so great! Aeh, what do you mean you need at least one more year to get even half of this stuff ready, let alone more men to implement all these awesome new buisness opportunities - I mean, gameplay features? Are you kidding? Well, we  did not really have time before to talk about it ... - Who has time these days anyway? WHO HAS TIME? Huh? - ... but, we really have to shorten this "development time" of your current title, yes !?! Why ? Because, the more titles we can flood the market with the more copies we can sell in the first week, before the consumers realize what a broken mess we served them! God, you developers can be so funny sometimes... Listen, I really have to go. But if you have any ideas on how to further shorten this awefull "development time" you can always call me! ..."

 

 

I believe after this conversation, the manager went off to a meeting for new PR strategies. It was something about "making so much noise in the ether and a marketing campaign so loud, colorful, and packed with so much sensory overload that even the DEAD would have to recognize it and would come out of their graves to buy stuff!"

 

Oh isn't that cute! The dead people will play video games too ... what a nice thought! So they don't have to be bored lying in their graves all day. These managers really do care about EVERYONE "§%$%/"§$&§$%/(

[Lilacs]

@Bioware-Critic, nice post! ROFL. =)

[Lilacs]

@OP.  I was excited as well. Many features that were advertised did interest me immensely.  So far, I am enjoying the wide open, stunning world. The game has this going for it.

[Kinghaplo]

Most of side quests are boring indeed, some people could say: don't like them?Don't do them. ...but without this quests, game is too short and don't require your character to be at max lvl(last quest: 17-19lvl)...I honestly didn't expect Main Quest to be so short...

 

In matter of quests DA:I feels like Skyrim - short Main Story and endless boring bounty quests, but without other great chain quests like Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood etc...

Once I hit lvl 21/22 I started farming Gaints hehe but dang they are harder then some of the Dragons.

[Shardik1]

That's another thing.  Dragons and giants are too easy for a mage.  Just stand out of their sight range and plink them to death.

[Bioware-Critic]

@OP.  I was excited as well. Many features that were advertised did interest me immensely.  So far, I am enjoying the wide open, stunning world. The game has this going for it.

Hey Lilacs, wait until you have finished the game for the first time. Wait until you have respect your characters for the tenth time each. Then tell me how much freedom you have encountered in this RPG. I have done most of the content, or at least a great portion of it in my first runthrough. It took me over 100 hours. And I will just say: Playing as mage, I need more skills and more skill trees. That's just the tip of the iceberg, really. But that alone KILLED my mood!

 

But I really am too negative here towards you. Please do not take me or my commentary too seriously.

 

I do not want to spoil your enjoyment, so have fun!

And, nice blog by the way

[Lilacs]

Hey Lilac, wait until you have finished the game for the first time. Wait until you have respect your characters for the tenth time each. Then tell me how much freedom you have encountered in this RPG. I have done most of the content, or at least a great portion of it in my first runthrough. It took me over 100 hours. And I will just say: Playing as mage, I need more skills and more skill trees. That's just the tip of the iceberg, really. But that alone KILLED my mood!

 

But I really am too negative here towards you. Please do not take me or my commentary too seriously.

 

I do not want to spoil your enjoyment, so have fun!

And, nice blog by the way

 

Actually, I do take you seriously. I was one of the players who  wanted so much in DA II and had given many suggestions on how to improve the next installment in the Dragon Age series.  When I heard that DA: I will merge what works in both previous installments, I was ecstatic, but I did keep an open mind that I might be disappointed. I have written a topic on what bother me thus far, and I also responded to topics that matched my current concerns for the game. I am still early on in the game.  I opted out on my PC version until there is a patch.  On Xbox One, my tactics do not work for the companions. They do not stay put. And they aggro the encounters and go on to fight on their own instead of following my PC or the companion I'm currently controlling.  I do try to use the tactics, but it is too simplified, and yes, the AI has problem on X-box one for me.  For someone who enjoys micromanaging my companions, this simplistic tactics version of the previous two installments, do not work for me. I am doing more micromanagement than I did in both previous games.   I laugh at your post because I believe that Bioware doesn't have full autonomy here. And your post reflected that. =) You voiced some of my frustrations because I wish Bioware had full control of the company.

 

I am enjoying the world at the time being because it is truly stunning.  Oh, Bioware-critic, I am just as critical.  This game has the fundamentals of being a great game. If Bioware pays attention to feedback, this game will be the RPG of the year, a beloved game.

 

Thanks for the compliment, Bioware-critic. =)

[aeoncs]

Most of us were excited and got hugely disappointed. And as a result we are standing in the rain...

 

That's complete and utter BS - try falsely generalizing the consensus even more next time, will you?

[Bioware-Critic]

Actually, I do take you seriously. I was one of the players who  wanted so much in DA II and had given many suggestions on how to improve the next installment in the Dragon Age series.  When I heard that DA: I will merge what works in both previous installments, I was ecstatic, but I did keep an open mind that I might be disappointed. I have written a topic on what bother me thus far, and I also responded to topics that matched my current concerns for the game. I am still early on in the game.  I opted out on my PC version until there is a patch.  On Xbox One, my tactics do not work for the companions. They do not stay put. And they aggro the encounters and go on to fight on their own instead of following my PC or the companion I'm currently controlling.  I do try to use the tactics, but it is too simplified, and yes, the AI has problem on X-box one for me.  For someone who enjoys micromanaging my companions, this simplistic tactics version of the previous two installments, do not work for me. I am doing more micromanagement than I did in both previous games.   I laugh at your post because I believe that Bioware doesn't have full autonomy here. And your post reflected that. =) You voiced some of my frustrations because I wish Bioware had full control of the company.

 

I am enjoying the world at the time being because it is truly stunning.  Oh, Bioware-critic, I am just as critical.  This game has the fundamentals of being a great game. If Bioware pays attention to feedback, this game will be the RPG of the year, a beloved game.

 

Thanks for the compliment, Bioware-critic. =)

Lilacs, I like this forum! Talking to people like you is just refreshing - I love it!

 

I have to say, it is my first day so far on the english forums, I am pretty new to this medium in generell, english is not my first language and the only reason I took a little more time to do this is because my PS3 froze into a brick today!  Yeah

But I have to say, reading all these comments from all these honest and caring fans of juicy Bioware games is just great! All these years one is waiting for good games to come out, but nothing can match your favorites! And when after so many years everything goes to **** - you feel just awesome. Honestly ... I could give every man and woman on the street a big hug and a kiss... after I have killed their entire families, I mean !! !!

I tell you something: My favorite developers are Bioware, Crytek and Eidos Montreal. Bioware made Origins the rest you know... Crytek gave me Crysis 2 which I played to death and they just recently fucked up Crysis 3 completely. I have it on my console but I hate it! And Eidos Montreal made Deus Ex but fucked up Thief. So for the last 18 month, these were my highlights! ALL MY FAVORITE GAME COMPANIES FUCKED UP EVERYTHING !!!!! And NOW Bioware ... I just love to be a gaming fan. It is like nothing else ... At least I got a few good laughs from reading this site. I wrote only a couple of posts over the years on forums, but being a Dragon Age and Bioware fan left me no choice really, but to communicate to and sync-up to the "mother-ship" I guess. So, thanks for your answer! And good luck to us both I guess...

 

And hey,

If I find some EA guys wandering through here, I will give you a call, ... I have the guns, you bring the getaway car, Lilacs! Don't leave me hanging here, I need your help ...

[Bioware-Critic]

That's complete and utter BS - try falsely generalizing the consensus even more next time, will you?

Have you by any chance read the all the threads with their respective postings on the feedback & suggestions forum lately? There are more threads and posts regarding game changes for Inquisition, than there are stars at sky tonight, aeoncs ...

I know for a fact, that many people feel just like I do, towards Inquisition. It has a lot of awesome things going for it ... ! But most of them are hardly enjoyable when everything you love about RPG's in generall is gimped or oversimplified or cut out completely. I play usually as a mage, okay. In Inquisition I can choose between: fire, ice and lightning - that's it ... Do you want to make me laugh or what, aeoncs? The future patches, DLC, and what not could change a lot. But my point is, I believe in that stuff when it is there. And not a second earlier! Game companies tend to talk their way out of things instead of solving problems, especially when costs are rising like **** ... When Bioware made up for the ME3 ending by publishing the Citadel DLC I forgave them totally. But who says any of Inquisitions problems, which are for many, many, many of us game-breaking-issues that absolutely need to be fixed completely - are to be fixed and dealt with. I believe it when I see it, aeoncs. And not a second earlier! I think it is like Lilacs said, "Bioware may not have full autonomy here" !

 

My point is: I cannot enjoy driving a superb car that has two or three flat tires - Do you catch me?

[aeoncs]

Have you by any chance read the feedback forum lately? Their are more threads and posts regarding game changes for Inquisition, than there are stars at sky tonight, aeoncs ...

 

90% of which are minor complaints, misunderstandings and/or constructive feedback [EDIT: Completely forgot to mention the absolute sh*tload amount of bug reports]. That's vastly different from claiming that the majority of the fanbase is disappointed because that is easy enough to refute. The overall consensus on pretty much all the big gaming sites (including this very forum, gamefaqs, reddit etc.) is extremely positive. Additionally, the game received great scores from pretty much all the reputable Youtube reviewers.

 

Being disappointed in the game or rather your experience with it is completely fine and you're actually one of the few people with reasonable, albeit subjective, points of criticism. But that doesn't change the fact that assertions like "Most of us were excited and got hugely disappointed" are simply untrue.

[Bioware-Critic]

@aeoncs

 

Okay, ...

 

Without wanting to be rude...

I REALLY do not mean to make any fuss about what I wrote or how I wrote it. Nor do I have intentions to take your comments too seriously.

 

So, what to say...

First of, I said "most of us" - not 90% like you tell here!!

Second of all, for "most of us" NONE of this **** is minor!

So I guess you would be the one who is "falsely generalizing the consensus" aren't you, aeoncs?

 

Man ... I really dislike many things that absolutely break the game for me. Period! But since pretty much all of them are written and discussed all over the forums, I will not tell this stuff - which really KILLS my mood - over and over again! That's just useless for me.

 

So I would like to leave it at that, that we both have different point of views when it comes to what makes a game experience fun. Which should be the most normal thing in the world anyways, since we are all individuals.

 

And of course there are many good things about the game too. It is a Bioware game, DUH!

 

Enough said

[Brogan]

For my tastes, after 70 hours in the game, it seems so tedious with a storyline so broken with gathering quests that I can't care about the characters like I did in the first two installments.  This really saddens me as I was expecting something similar to the preceding games in the series.  I even built a new computer that pretty much doubled the "recommended" hardware suggested by BW.

 

After finishing the first two games with all the DLC ever offered, I was stoked as even the replays of DA rocked and had me following the story lines, loving my traveling companions, picking every answer and action seriously and spending my level up points carefully.  After so much time in Inquisition, There isn't much of that for me that I can see as the quests seem more like chores than something to do with the story line. 

 

I know there's a lot of people here who think the game is great and I say "good for them."  I wish I was there with you.  But this is just my opinion only based on what I like and what I expected. 

 

Guess I'll reinstall my ME series back onto my new box and maybe come back to this later or maybe I'll come back sooner and squeak it out so I can at least say I finished it.

 

Sigh.

 

I did exactly what you did...  except I have not started DAI yet.  I knew there were going to be bugs (didn't think we'd need a new UI as well though...), so I was prepared to wait.

 

So glad I did.  After reading threads like this for 2 weeks...

 

btw, I particularly enjoyed The Legacy DLC for DA2.  Had not played it before, and it was well done.

[aeoncs]

First of, I said "most of us" - not 90% like you tell here!! Second of all, NONE of this **** is minor!

Man ... I really dislike many thing that absolutely break the game for me. Period! But since pretty much all of them are written and discussed all over the forums, I will not tell this stuff - which really KILLS my mood - over and over again! That's just useless for me.

 

"Most of us" implies at least 51%, which is still untrue (;

And yes, the game has its obvious flaws, many of which will be removed in future patches or through minor mods, of that I have no doubt. But how much those flaws take away from your personal experience is entirely subjective, so something that is gamebreaking to you, is little more than a slight annoyance for many others - and that is, as I said, completely fine and to be expected. I didn't mean to tell you (or anyone else for that matter) that your reasons for being disappointed are stupid or insignificant as that would be the epitome of ignorance, and just wanted to point out that most are, in fact, far from disappointed. I could and should have probably been nicer instead of just calling BS, though.

Take care!

[Bioware-Critic]

@aeoncs

 

Thanks aeoncs, for your understanding.

 

Although I disagree with people are being satisfied, and so on, I will leave it to you to discover in the internet how I came to that conclusion.

 

Anyways, take care aeoncs

 

(Like myself, many people are playing this title on console. And we will get NO mods and Bioware won't give us as much attention when it comes to UI fixes like they will with the PC crowd. Although we have the exact same problems. Of which there are many, many, many ... So NO! I don't think Bioware will fix this for us console gamers!)

[Shardik1]

So well said.

[Jester]

Why are people doing those gathering quests, if they hate them so much, I'll never understand.

It's not like the game forces those on you. 

[Shardik1]

No, the game does not force you to do anything.  In previous RPGs gathering and completing quests lead to something such as better equipment, large amount of money, a date with a boss...  In DA:I it turns out that most of the gathering quests garner you nothing you want or need but for me, I'm inclined to hit every quest in the journal and every badge I can get, I guess I'm a little OCD in my game play that way but I wasn't to play as close to a perfect game as possible.