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[Draining Dragon]

The only time this really felt forced, to me, was in Dorian's quest to meet his dad. It reminded me of when the Templar had that plot, the "Tranquil Solution", in DA2.

The writing for both of those was somewhat heavy-handed.

In contrast, I liked the handling of Krem being transgender. It wasn't treated as a huge deal, and even when you asked for clarification, they just explained it and moved on.

[Charcoal15]

The only time this really felt forced, to me, was in Dorian's quest to meet his dad. It reminded me of when the Templar had that plot, the "Tranquil Solution", in DA2.

The writing for both of those was somewhat heavy-handed.

In contrast, I liked the handling of Krem being transgender. It wasn't treated as a huge deal, and even when you asked for clarification, they just explained it and moved on.

I quite liked Dorians quest to meet his father, because it doesn't make you go "woooo support the gays!" It gives you an option to either hear his father out or do what I did and just leave with Dorian as quickly as I could.

[Tyloric]

I went to bed and woke up to find that this thread has become more than I could have ever hoped for. I love you guys

[Ianamus]

Are there actually people claiming that Dragon Age Inquisition has too little heterosexuality?

 

Off the top of my head: the married horse master in the Hinterlands, the widow in the hinterlands whose husbands ring was stolen, the widower in the hinterlands asking you to put flowers on his wife's grave, the man asking for a cure for his wife in the hinterlands, the mage in the hinterlands whose Templar lover died trying to find her, the couple having sex in the dam in Crestwood, the numerous, numerous women fawning over Cullen, the woman at the grand ball recounting the deaths of her many, many husbands, Blackwall sending Josephine flowers as a secret admirer, whatever is going on between Bianca and Varric, the chantry sister in haven who is 'walking funny' after her night with Bull...

 

Yeah, Dragon Age Inquisition is really lacking in heterosexuality.

[Rawgrim]

Dorian is one of the best characters in the game, in my opinion. I haven't been able to finish the game, due to bugs, and I have yet to do many of the companion quests. But I did do Dorian's quest. Very well written. Including "gay stuff" in Thedas is all good. Don't shy away from it. BUT i think it was also a very good move to include that not everyone in Thedas is fine with it. Dorian's dad not liking it one bit. Both the inclusion of different sexualities, and also including different views on it, makes the world feel more real and belivable.

[Sigma Tauri]

Are there actually people claiming that Dragon Age Inquisition has too little heterosexuality?

 

Off the top of my head: the married horse master in the Hinterlands, the widow in the hinterlands whose husbands ring was stolen, the widower in the hinterlands asking you to put flowers on his wife's grave, the man asking for a cure for his wife in the hinterlands, the mage in the hinterlands whose Templar lover died trying to find her, the couple having sex in the dam in Crestwood, the numerous, numerous women fawning over Cullen, the woman at the grand ball recounting the deaths of her many, many husbands, Blackwall sending Josephine flowers as a secret admirer, whatever is going on between Bianca and Varric, the chantry sister in haven who is 'walking funny' after her night with Bull...

 

Yeah, Dragon Age Inquisition is really lacking in heterosexuality.

 

Did you just shove that down all of our throats?

 

Hmmm...keep shoving...

[Muspade]

It's hard being heterosexual without receiving flak for it, with people around to claim they have their "throat shoved full" of gay'ness. Just play some other game, man. Shove your mouth full of heterosexual stuff instead.

[SadisticChunkyDwarf]

I don't find DA:I chock full of gooey gay goodness or anything. I kicked Serra from my party, because she's annoying, looks like a pig and has the attitude of one to match, and Dorian is never in my party so he just spends all his time in the library presumably reading gay erotica novels. This is how I play the game. If you don't like someone because they're too gay, I dunno find a way to have them horribly killed or something. If you really believe that there is an agenda, the fun part is running precisely counter to it out of spite and being indifferent to what everyone else thinks. Not only is it fun, it's very irritating for them. Enjoy.

[dlux]

The Bioware studio must be full to the brim with "Social Justice Warriors" as much gay/bisexual/whatever content they stuff into their games. Bioware Edmonton is probably the "gayest" studio in the industry.

 

Anyway, some gay content is fine and can actually improve a game by making the world feel more consistent. In Gone Home (a game about two lesbian teenagers) it made sense and felt very natural, in Bioware's games the gay content feels very awkward and forced. It's like the gay content is there just for the sake of having gay content and it is pretty annoying.

 

I really just want to play a game and not constantly be confronted with modern social issues in a fantasy world. In most games the sexuality of NPCs is left open (for the player to interperet), but in Bioware's games they seem to be keen on putting labels on every character and have them scream their sexuality from the rooftops, like they are marching in the Christopher Street Day Parade or something.

 

Heterosexuality is being shoved down your throat in real life as well.

Well, heterosexuality is responsible for procreation. Without heterosexuality there wouldn't be any homosexuality either. There is a reason that it is predominant in media and widely accepted.

[Kimarous]

I'm less bothered by the amount of in-game homosexual representation and more the general social atmosphere of "You HAVE to support homosexuality." It's as if people think that if you aren't specifically pro-LGBT or you never do a playthrough where you do a homosexual romance, you are BAD person and you need to feel BAD because it doesn't matter if you're personally straight / don't take a political stance on LGBT rights / have a homosexual sibling, thus colouring such interactions in uncomfortable awkwardness - you are a HOMOPHOBE and that's BAD and you need to feel BAD because you are BAD!

 

...that's what I'm getting from this thread, at any rate.

[DemGeth]

Yes


You have to support homosexuality.

Why wouldn't anybody?

[Charcoal15]

Yes


You have to support homosexuality.

Why wouldn't anybody?

Oh no, you just asked why people would be stupid enough to not find homosexuality fine, prepare for religion in 3,2,1...

[daveliam]

Did you just shove that down all of our throats?

 

Hmmm...keep shoving...

 

That thick, vein-y agenda.  Remember to relax your throat muscles, Sigma.  I'd hate to see you choke on all of that 'straight agenda'!

[Kimarous]

Yes

You have to support homosexuality.

Why wouldn't anybody?

 

Because it's not something I feel strongly about?

Because I don't feel comfortable about it?

Because I think telling people what they should or should not support is a dick move?

Because of people like this?

 

Oh no, you just asked why people would be stupid enough to not find homosexuality fine, prepare for religion in 3,2,1...

[DemGeth]

Don't care about your comfort if you can't handle the fact people are gay.

Why would I.

[Muspade]

-Snip-

Play another game if you feel so violated. 

[Kimarous]

Don't care about your comfort if you can't handle the fact people are gay.

Why would I.

 

Don't care if people don't care that I don't care.

 

Why would I.

 

You're also missing the point. I'm not against homosexual rights - I just don't want to get involved and it bothers me when people act like you HAVE to get involved (and specifically be on the pro-side).

[DemGeth]

Exactly

[Spectre 117]

The only time this really felt forced, to me, was in Dorian's quest to meet his dad. It reminded me of when the Templar had that plot, the "Tranquil Solution", in DA2.

The writing for both of those was somewhat heavy-handed.

In contrast, I liked the handling of Krem being transgender. It wasn't treated as a huge deal, and even when you asked for clarification, they just explained it and moved on.

 

I actually kind of liked how they handled it. Because the whole conflict wasn't so much about how it was unacceptable that he was gay, but rather about the consequences towards the family's legacy. It was rather interesting, imo. 

[InfinitePaths]

But that WAS my answer to the actual point. I don't see the reason why BW could not allow someone to DISAGREE with that. It was just a line of dialogue, literally. I really can't understand why so many people are unwilling to accept the fact that BW just went with the "safe route" to avoid being branded as "anti-gay" just because they put a dialogue line that allowed the player to be so. 

 

 

Yes, I also wish Bioware added an option to let our protagonist disagree with non-white acceptance in Thedas.

 

Why can't my protagonist banish women from the Inquisition?

 

Why don't I have an option to execute tall people, or people with bright blue eyes?

 

Why can't my PC have an option to AGREE with ethnic cleansing?

 

( /sarcasm )

[InfinitePaths]

The only time this really felt forced, to me, was in Dorian's quest to meet his dad. It reminded me of when the Templar had that plot, the "Tranquil Solution", in DA2.

The writing for both of those was somewhat heavy-handed.

In contrast, I liked the handling of Krem being transgender. It wasn't treated as a huge deal, and even when you asked for clarification, they just explained it and moved on
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I, in fact, really enjoyed Bioware forcing gay Dorian down my throat.

 

[daveliam]

 
I, in fact, really enjoyed Bioware forcing gay Dorian down my throat.

 

 

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