One think I found "funny" was that, in the Dorian personal quest, you could not say "Hey dude, your father did the right thing". In a RPG which is all about choice, you have NO CHOICE at all on this matter.
In this game you can pretty much decide if you want to KILL PEOPLE or not - but Maker forbid, making comments against homosexuality is strictly forbidden. It seems it's ways worse than killing tons of people.
That line of thought doesn't exist in Thedas outside Tevinter nobility.
Homosexuality is NOT the common thing.
It would be problematic for the survival of the species, tbh.
No it wouldn't, to be scientific. Non-reproductive sexual behaviour (including long term or permanent same-sex pair bonding) is commonly observed in hundreds of species including ours. (And, as you have probably gathered, we are all still here.)
At any rate, I find hilarious how feminists tend to be rather intollerant towards ANYONE not sharing their views.Talk about being coherent.
People should be tolerant of intolerance in the name of unthinking consistency? Nonsense. Non-sense.
That line of thought doesn't exist in Thedas outside Tevinter nobility.
What.
I can't understand if you are sarcastic or not, here. It's irrelevant whether it's not typical outside Tevinter - in a game about choices, not having that choice is completely out of place, and clearly was not included to avoid making homosexuals angry and noisy.
No it wouldn't, to be scientific. Non-reproductive sexual behaviour (including long term or permanent same-sex pair bonding) is commonly observed in hundreds of species including ours. (And, as you have probably gathered, we are all still here.)
Right. Still it's not, in terms of numbers, the MOST COMMON status - and yes, this is the reason "we are still here". Try to procreate with exclusively homosexuals relations, let me know if it works for you.
Please remember that the ultimate instict of every living being is to procreate. Survival instincts above all.
*coughSera'santielvenattitudescough*
Nah, she's gay, so she can pretty much allow herself to be intolerant. It's accepted.
No it wouldn't, to be scientific. Non-reproductive sexual behaviour (including long term or permanent same-sex pair bonding) is commonly observed in hundreds of species including ours. (And, as you have probably gathered, we are all still here.)
Besides, there are too many humans already.
What.
I can't understand if you are sarcastic or not, here. It's irrelevant whether it's not typical outside Tevinter - in a game about choices, not having that choice is completely out of place, and clearly was not included to avoid making homosexuals angry and noisy.
Not sarcastic. Actual opposition to homosexuality doesn't exist anywhere else in Thedas (except probably in qunari territory). And you don't have a choice to do that in any other DA game either, so.
Not sarcastic. Actual opposition to homosexuality doesn't exist anywhere else in Thedas (except probably in qunari territory). And you don't have a choice to do that in any other DA game either, so.
Wait.
How is THAT not a clear indication of an "agenda"? I don't even
Wait.
How is THAT not a clear indication of an "agenda"? I don't even
Because religious intolerance of homosexuality isn't an inevitability? Because there's no real reason to hew to it when designing one's own religion for a fantasy world?
What.
I can't understand if you are sarcastic or not, here. It's irrelevant whether it's not typical outside Tevinter - in a game about choices, not having that choice is completely out of place, and clearly was not included to avoid making homosexuals angry and noisy.
There are many choices bioware do not allow you to make for many reasons, for example you can't play as a nug. 
It being "a game about choice" is not an argument for the inclusion of a specific choice.
Right. Still it's not, in terms of numbers, the MOST COMMON status - and yes, this is the reason "we are still here". Try to procreate with exclusively homosexuals relations, let me know if it works for you.
Please remember that the ultimate instict of every living being is to procreate. Survival instincts above all.
I don't see your point, yes everyone here is aware of the fact that you cannot procreate with the same sex. 
Honestly with the Orlesian nobles at the ball I kind of expect it since rich people just kind of do whatever anyways and they'll have anyone that disagrees with them killed. More surprised there wasn't a noble walking around with a sheep or a horse or something and introducing them as their spouse.
Because religious intolerance of homosexuality isn't an inevitability? Because there's no real reason to hew to it when designing one's own religion for a fantasy world?
And how is religion relevant, now? I never spoken about "religious intolerance". Why do you think the two things are necessarily connected?
There are many choices bioware do not allow you to make for many reasons, for example you can't play as a nug.
I don't see your point, yes everyone here is aware of the fact that you cannot procreate with the same sex.
Right, because playing as a nug is the same as saying "I don't agree with you". Are you serious?
And my point was to state it clearly that the "default status" of every species with defined sexes is that of heterosexuality, if we consider the survival of a species the primary objective. Now, while it's not a problem being homosexual by itself, having homosexuality spammed everywhere like if it was the "typical" state of things is rather preposterous and clearly indicates a deliberate choice by BW to just make the noisy minority happy.
There are many choices bioware do not allow you to make for many reasons, for example you can't play as a nug.
It's the anti-Nug agenda, I tell you! 
Because Bioware is pathetically trying to get on the good side of the SJWs of Tumblr and NeoGAF, an impossible task if you know anything about them.
And my point was to state it clearly that the "default status" of every species with defined sexes is that of heterosexuality, if we consider the survival of a species the primary objective.
Default status. Would you like a factory reset, sir?
Default status. Would you like a factory reset, sir?
Oh, please. You know what I mean. Let's try not to nitpick on terminology, it's never useful.
Oh, please. You know what I mean. Let's try not to nitpick on terminology, it's never useful.
I'm not picking your nits. There's shampoo for that.
Next time, we will attend a Tevinter Ball. People's attitude towards gay people on such a social event should satisfy some people here.
BTW, I loved the fact that you could be really shocked that the empress had an elven mistress. Because racism is the norm in Thedas. The writers know exactly how to balance their progressivism.
Nothing wrong with that, whatever it is Bioware is trying to do. Sometimes, though, they may be trying too hard.
That's my feelings on it. Bioware's well intentioned, but they handle things with all the subtlety of a hand grenade.
Conjuring fireballs and lightning storms out of nothing, using telekinesis to build bridges, time travel magic and demons pouring from sky holes are perfectly okay but acceptance of homosexuality? THAT'S GOING TOO FAR IN A FANTASY WORLD!
I don't see your point here. Gender and relationship diversity is well documented to be pro-fitness across a broad range of situations. Why is it so important to you to qualify "common and perfectly normal" with "but still less than 51% statistically!" Who cares?Right. Still it's not, in terms of numbers, the MOST COMMON status - and yes, this is the reason "we are still here". Try to procreate with exclusively homosexuals relations, let me know if it works for you.
Yeah, so we thought back in the 1950s. Then along came George C. Williams and the idea of gene-centred evolution.Please remember that the ultimate instict of every living being is to procreate. Survival instincts above all.
Right, because playing as a nug is the same as saying "I don't agree with you". Are you serious?
Yes ofc, focus on the silly example and ignore that actual point.
It is a choice that bioware does not allow you to make, in that sense it is the same. There are many of these and many reasons as to why.
And my point was to state it clearly that the "default status" of every species with defined sexes is that of heterosexuality, if we consider the survival of a species the primary objective. Now, while it's not a problem being homosexual by itself, having homosexuality spammed everywhere like if it was the "typical" state of things is rather preposterous and clearly indicates a deliberate choice by BW to just make the noisy minority happy.
The "Default State" (odd way of putting it) is a lot of things, last time I checked mages weren't all that common either. 
I feel like you are trying to make some kind of evolutionary argument, i'm not sure why you keep banging on about survival being the objective. We are talking about video games here.
I'm sorry that you feel a few gay characters equates to homosexuality being spammed everywhere and I don't see what is wrong with making minorities happy. All of this is sort of irrelevant to the discussion about why we can't be anti gay in DA:I though.
Conjuring fireballs and lightning storms out of nothing, using telekinesis to build bridges, time travel magic and demons pouring from sky holes are perfectly okay but intolerance of homosexuality? THAT'S GOING TOO FAR IN A FANTASY WORLD!
Fixed it for you
Fixed it for you
Intolerance of homosexuality already exists in some fantasy worlds so your fix is wrong. The fact that you're fighting to change one of the very few worlds that openly accepts homosexuality... Embarassing, man.
Ugh. I wake up and check the BSN to see another thread about how 'manly and gross' Cassandra is and then come in here to see pages of 'OH NOES! TEH AGENDA!!!!" posts.
I think I need to take a day off from BSN.
Catch y'all on the flip. I just can't with this place this weekend.
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