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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems as if fan reaction towards Dragon Age: Inquisition has been disappointment. What are your thoughts?


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Mathias

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So, pretty much exactly the same as the BSN, then.

 

Sure it's exactly the same. 

 

Well assuming every single thread (and I do mean 100%) on the BSN immediately gets derailed by blind passionate hatred for everything Bioware does, racists and homophobic comments, insults towards the developers and their personal lives, accusations of shilling towards anyone who likes the game, then sure! BSN is EXACTLY like /v/.



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And there are many that are not legitimate criticisms of this game.

 

One day, I do hope that you learn the difference.

I never said there wasn't, but the ones I have raised are very legitimate.



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There is a concern still, bioware is guilty of listening too much to complaints and to the loudest voices no less. That's how DA2 was so radically different from DAO.


Yes they do I agree. And there forums are particularly toxic. That's how DAO got patched from being a good challenge to a joke.

Still one of my faves but....

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I love ME2 to bits, but it's a dumbed-down affair in terms of RPG elements, armor, weapons, and customization and a story that's really a side-story, not a full on sequel.

 

It's also an utterly fantastic game and the crown jewel of BioWare's most popular series.

 

Every single game BioWare releases from here on out will be heavily criticized by a large number of people.  That's just how the internet works.



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I like DA:I.  It's not a great game, IMO, but a good game.  I wish the tactical mode was better and the game was easier to play with a mouse and keyboard.  As it is right now it is obvious it was designed with a gamepad in mind.  I also miss how much dialogue we had with companions in DA:O.


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Sure it's exactly the same. 

 

Well assuming every single thread (and I do mean 100%) on the BSN immediately gets derailed by blind passionate hatred for everything Bioware does, racists and homophobic comments, insults towards the developers and their personal lives, accusations of shilling towards anyone who likes the game, then sure! BSN is EXACTLY like /v/.

 

You literally just described the BSN during the ME3 ending ragefest.



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I love this game.  It made up for everything DA2 did bad.  I still have some CTD issues.  But those are not complaints.  They are just part of the normal issues associated with creating such a massive game in a new and highly modified engine.  A lot of people don't feel as I do on the matter though.  And I think that the majority of complaints are actually about bugs.  

 

As far as people complaining about the contents of the game itself go... I have no idea what they were expecting.  A different game I guess.  But I honestly think that if the game were not a Dragon Age game there would be a lot less complaining.  If it were a new mythos and a different developer the player reviews would be much better.  But because people had certain expectations that they felt were not being met, they felt they needed to voice their discontent.

 

Also as others have said, most people enjoy the game immensely.  Of my 6 friends who play, none of them have anything bad to say other than the occasional bug or ten (LOL).  But they don't post on the forums.  And they likely never will.  They're too busy playing Inquisition.  



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So many questions have flooded my mind from this, I have to get them out there:

 

1. 6-12 months down the line will DA:I be viewed in a more positive or negative light? Will those who were harsh on the game gain more of an appreciation for it, or vise versa?

 

2. For those who don't like the game or were really disappointed, what's your attitude towards Bioware and the Dragon Age series at this point in time? Are you no longer a fan? Are you giving up on it? Do you have low expectations for it's future?

 

3. Are a lot of fans really disappointed with the game, or is this the voices of a few being really loud? When the dust settles, will there be a lot more positivity towards this game a few weeks from now?

 

1. They can fix some stuff like combat (which even with working camera and autoattack will be worse then DA2 cuz of stupid healing mechanics and respawning mobs). But they cant fix major issue - MMOish design with alot of boring filler content. 

2. Im pretty much done with DA series. After DA2 and DAI - absolutely no interest in next part if they make it. I think team who made DAI lacks talent and vision for epic RPG and Bioware heads should refresh company ranks. But Im still a huge fan of Mass Effect (ME3 didnt disappoint me at all) and praying ME Next delivers. 

3. It seems like Love/Hate relationship. Many are very disappointed, but some love the game. I might give it second chance when they fix combat that is terribad on PC at this point.



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The general attitude on here has been very mixed.

I've see a lot more who are disappointed than people who are pleased.
 
1. positive or negative light?
2. your attitude towards the Dragon Age series at this point in time?
3. will there be a lot more positivity towards this game a few weeks from now?


This game is very much split down the middle.

I didn't even take this game for a ride until after I had already seen all the hatred posts on other websites. Often it's me tearing games apart, but I must say that this game was better than I thought it would be. Yes, It has annoying bugs, and it suffers from consolitis, but in comparison to the sheer volume of worthless games the world pukes out every year, this one was unexpectedly, and at times, delightfully tolerable.

So, to answer your question, yes, this game will always remain split down the middle.

People will forever view the first game as good, the second game as bad, and this one as a mix of both worlds.

 

Spit in one hand, wish in the other, and see which one gets fuller.



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Metacritic has been flooded with people who have never played the game but hate Bioware, so let's take that site out of it. Bioware forums are mixed because most people who love the game are busy loving the game.

 

I would say that overall people are pleased with DA:I. Diablo3 had more negative opinions after launch, Oblivion is probably right up there with the worst, comparatively Dragon Age Inquisition is a game most gamers are happy with imo.



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It is not a disappointment, not by a long shot. It is a very good game. But.....

DAO set the height of the bar and you compare DAI to that and it is failing to reach that height.

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I am also disappointed. Second worst Bioware game imho. (SWTOR wins the worst)

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It seems a bit curious as to how those of us that criticize this game are said to hate Bioware.   Sitting on my shelf in front of me, I have over $500 in Bioware titles, and that does not count all the downloads I have purchased that I did not receive a hard copy of.   Easily have spent a grand in support of this company over the years.  So...seems a bit of a reach to say that those like myself that have supported this company for longer than many of its current players have been alive "hate Bioware." 

 If they make a game that is geared towards a different kind of consumer than myself, I wish they would have just said so, and I would have spent my money elsewhere.  I have not bought everything Bioware produced, but that did not diminish my support of the company, when it came to the genre I do play.  But, when they go out of their way to say they are creating a game, that is exactly the kind of game I am looking for, and was made to resemble the titles of theirs that I preferred in the past, then that is the type of game I expect. 

 

I do not doubt that there are people that love this game.  Great for you....just curious as to why you are here on the forums, instead of in the game playing....like I would be if the game was performing for me as I expected.  Are you so insecure in what you like, that you have to attack those that are looking for something different?  There are countless titles that are playable on the console, or are MMO style.  Will you not be satisfied, until every single game franchise has changed their format, until they are all console/MMO clones?  Bioware CRPGs used to stand out.  DAI seems to resemble a lot of other popular games that are on the market....but the one game that it barely resembles is the one this franchise started with, and the one that we were promised.


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I particularly enjoy how so many of the people who liked the game lump the valid criticisms with the stupid ones and then brush them all aside.

 

If you like Dragon Age: Inquisition, you'll love tennis balls, sticks and being scratched behind the ear.


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1. This game does not have the classic appeal that ME2 or Origins has. It is large forgettable. It's not quite as bad as many of the recycled AAA titles that come out from year to year that are large forgettable, but it's getting closer to that.

 

ME2 has classic appeal? I thought it was supposed to be "a dumbed-down affair in terms of RPG elements, armor, weapons, and customization." (Same page as your post.)  I can't keep straight what I'm supposed to hate the various Bio games for. Anyone have a chart or something?

 

More seriously, this is an example of people having different tastes. For instance, "classic appeal" doesn't do much for me, since from where I sit the classic CRPGs were dumbed-down bastardizations of real RPGs in the first place, derived from a system that we only tolerated because it was the lowest common denominator of PnP gaming. (If only CRPGs dervied from, say, GURPS instead....)



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I am also very disappointed. Bioware EA has completely mutilated the Dragon Age series IMO. It really saddens me to see Dragon Age turned into an open world, button mashing, single player MMO action game.

 

If they would have at least made a Dragon Age 2.5 with larger and more areas and an improved encounter design, then it would have been a pretty decent and enjoyable game. It probably wouldn't have been as good as Dragon Age: Origins, but it would have been fun nevertheless.



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The game lacks the crispy passion in my meaning

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You literally just described the BSN during the ME3 ending ragefest.

 

No I didn't. I described /v/.

 

Even at it's angriest, not every thread on the BSN was about the ME3 ending, and even in threads relating to the ending, the majority of the people posting didn't make the types of comments I listed. There is no comparing the BSN to the /v/. /v/ is literally lawless. The mere fact you can get banned for making racist or personal attacks on the developers on BSN makes it not even close to how toxic /v/ is. 

 

Also go ahead and link me to threads on the BSN that include:

 

A. Racist comments.

B. Homophobic comments.

C. Personal attacks against devs.

D. Personal attacks against those who like the game.

 

Whatever you somehow manage to scrounge up, I will find 10 comments on /v/ for each 1 you find. I will find a 300 post thread, that's filled with these comments from top to bottom.

 

 

In other words, stop comparing BSN to /v/. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're trying to compare a schoolyard bully to an ISIS Militant. 



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Devs did get angry comments and such after ME3. I remember it very well.



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I'm one of the few that actually enjoyed ME3 even before the "fixed" endings. I loved the entire ME series, same with dragon age, Only problem I had with DA2 was repeating caves that was it. The only problem I have with DA:I is lack of a devkit, which honestly after 100 hours of gameplay it's making going through the game a second or third time real rough.



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Devs did get angry comments and such after ME3. I remember it very well.

 

Yes they did.

Everywhere.



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On the general game forums I use DAI has been received better in general than on BSN. There have been some criticisms over the same issues than have come up here but they judge the game less harshly as a whole than many on here do. On those forums its been received far better than DA2 was.



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To the person above me. No one ever complained about skyrim. So your wrong in that regard. that's why it was a game of the year. The definitely ran out of time though. You can feel it at the end. Their is so much stuff that was left out. You feel like its going to be in the game until the very end though. You are left wanting. still 9/10.

I bought that game, but I actually fall asleep on it. I wondered why people play at all. It was way too boring from a role playing perspective and I don't much care about fights, so for me it was a pretty hack and slash game.
I love this game, for it creates a story, which is the strength of Bioware. When I first heard them mentioning Skyrim as an example, I was really worried. I still think it has a bit too much of Skyrim, and it could take a bit more of Bioware in it, but I accept, that many people find it important to have a vast open world with lots of things to kill.

 

And as many people mentioned, forums are not necessary representatives. Majority of people who enjoy the game are just playing and not giving a damn about forums. As a matter of fact, every single person I know in real life and plays, avoids the forum, for they are too engaged in playing the game they love :) Of course the group of friends I have naturally isn't a representative sample either, but alas, forum isn't either.



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It seems a bit curious as to how those of us that criticize this game are said to hate Bioware.   Sitting on my shelf in front of me, I have over $500 in Bioware titles, and that does not count all the downloads I have purchased that I did not receive a hard copy of.   Easily have spent a grand in support of this company over the years.  So...seems a bit of a reach to say that those like myself that have supported this company for longer than many of its current players have been alive "hate Bioware." 
 If they make a game that is geared towards a different kind of consumer than myself, I wish they would have just said so, and I would have spent my money elsewhere.  I have not bought everything Bioware produced, but that did not diminish my support of the company, when it came to the genre I do play.  But, when they go out of their way to say they are creating a game, that is exactly the kind of game I am looking for, and was made to resemble the titles of theirs that I preferred in the past, then that is the type of game I expect. 
 
I do not doubt that there are people that love this game.  Great for you....just curious as to why you are here on the forums, instead of in the game playing....like I would be if the game was performing for me as I expected.  Are you so insecure in what you like, that you have to attack those that are looking for something different?  There are countless titles that are playable on the console, or are MMO style.  Will you not be satisfied, until every single game franchise has changed their format, until they are all console/MMO clones?  Bioware CRPGs used to stand out.  DAI seems to resemble a lot of other popular games that are on the market....but the one game that it barely resembles is the one this franchise started with, and the one that we were promised.

This. Very well put. DAI is fine but it's not the spiritual successor to BG, which is what the franchise was supposed to be.

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Metacritic has been flooded with people who have never played the game but hate Bioware

Uh huh.

 

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Would you like to tell us when and why people started hating Bioware? Because before Dragon Age 2 was released everyone loved them.


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