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[Nemis-Roidsavelt]

Before I say anything else I want to say this game is a 9/10. But lets do a hypothetical situation. Lets say for example a company advertises part of the game at a special event and the tell you that you need to make hard choices. For example if you let this village burn down you will never be able to do quests at that village again. And then that isn't in the game. Is that illegal? I know you cant say. Hey Listerine is so good you don't need to use dental floss because Listerine got sued for that!!!! Is it the same thing? Also im not saying I want to sue bioware just curious if it is possible because I would personally love to see a class action lawsuit against EA or any other gaming company for this crap. The do it all the time and then I play the game for that very reason and its not their . What? I bought Diablo for the PVP you let me play at Blizzcon blizzard. It was so much fun, and then you went and didn't release PVP for over a whole year. I want to sue you............

[dreamgazer]

Do you think Inquisition was falsely advertised?

[Emeriick]

The footage shown was Alpha, possibly even before Alpha and as with anything Alpha/Pre-Alpha things are subject to change, this is something I believe they even said. So no, you cannot sue EA just because they cut a quest that wasn't in the game almost a year ago. Things get cut all the time and I'm sure Bioware had a very good reason for cutting that quest but we are likely to never know what that reason is. And that is completely fine because they have given us a game that a lot of us will be playing for 100s of hours.

 

Don't be so self entitled and just enjoy the game.

[Nightdragon8]

oh so that was cut from the game? (not done with it so wasn't sure) kinda unfortunate. but oh well.

[Ssekyr1]

If you're in America, you can sue for anything you want over there. Doubtful you could acquire/afford the lawyer needed to beat a company's lawyer(s), though.

[Evamitchelle]

Sega and Gearbox are being sued for falsely advertising Aliens: Colonial Marines, so yes it is possible.

 

I don't think DAI was falsely advertised however. 

[Nemis-Roidsavelt]

To answer the question do I think inquisition was falsely advertised. No. The probably announced that everything that was being viewed was subject to being possibly removed ect. I didn't see that though so I only feel like it was falsely advertised. I do however think Blizzard falsely advertised with their Diablo game. I bought that game to do the pvp as the main thing. I never got to do it because I was not going to wait around a whole year for it. The didn't even say when it was coming........ I hate them so much. I want my money back......... Bioware can keep my money and then some though.

[lady8jane]

Yeah, try that and keep us posted. That will be really funny to watch.

 

Joke aside, you usually only go to court for false advertising if the misleading statement led to significant financial loss. A good example would be a game being so bad that the stock price of a company drops. The shareholders then can try to sue for false advertising with the argument that they were led to believe that the investment was good when in reality it wasn't.

 

Some EA shareholders actually tried to do that for Battlefield 4, but the judge didn't agree with their reasoning:

http://ie.ign.com/ar...-action-lawsuit

[AresKeith]

Spamming threads now OP?

[Ash Wind]

Unless you have an iron-clad contract with said company, I would say, not a chance. Whatever, they show its with the disclaimer that content is subject to change.

[Beomer]

IIRC someone tried to sue them for falsely advertising MAss Effect 3. It did not stick.

[Nemis-Roidsavelt]

Im offended by the accusation I am spamming but forgive you because I like your avatar.

[Echorion]

Sega and Gearbox are being sued for falsely advertising Aliens: Colonial Marines, so yes it is possible.

 

I don't think DAI was falsely advertised however. 

 

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking. You certainly can if they really were advertising falsely.

 

But they generally don't actually do that, most developers/publishers have basically a checklist on how to do things to advertise well and without doing that.

 

However sometimes they do break the rules, like Aliens: Colonial Marines, and yes they can be sued if they truly are in the wrong. In fact that lawsuit over Aliens is almost over, they are going to have to payback everyone who pre-ordered the game as well as damages and such when the suit is finalized.

[Bfler]

In the US, where an old grandma has claimed and received more than half a milloin dollars, because she spilled hot coffee on her leg, everything is possible.

[tomkaa988]

well they did promise us 40 different variations of the ending and 3 major endings....

[Julia Luna]

DAI was clearly falsely advertised.

1 - Back to Origins

2 - PC lead platform

3 - Old tactical camera back

4 - Listening to the community

 

But there is not even need to go beyond 1, they said multiple times that they were going to do something that would bring back elements people liked in Origins, they explained, they talked about it. Now... I don't know what MODDED VERSION of Dragon Age Origins you did play but vanilla it looks nothing like this "dumbed down console action RPG". Nothing they ever said or showed barely resembles the final product, they mislead consumers all the time focusing on what they knew was great to make us WOW and like the game. It worked for everybody that wanted a great game but it didn't for anyone who wanted Origins back so, well, they have the freedom to kick Origins ass and say goodbye to everything fans loved, yeah they surely can, but they can't do it while advertising they were in fact trying to please those who loved DAO and hated DA2 if they made a game even worse than DA2 and even further from Origins.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Unless you have an iron-clad contract with said company, I would say, not a chance. Whatever, they show its with the disclaimer that content is subject to change.

 

This. It's precisely why they put "alpha content, not final" or "subject to change" in their videos. That's the nature of game development. If they weren't able to legally show us content that could potentially not make the final cut, we wouldn't be seeing much of the game during it's development leading up to release. 

[schall_und_rauch]

Some people are really ridiculous here.

They spent 60 bucks on the first day for a video game, without waiting for user reactions, and then think about suing a company like EA.

Seriously?

 

Not only does EA have more legal ressources than anybody here can fathom, they also make very sure in their communications beforehand that their advertising statements are legally proof.

 

Bottom line: Don't base your buying decisions on advertising. And if you do, don't be a crybaby whimpering something about legal action (which you won't carry through anyways).

[Yinello]

Keep in mind Aliens Colonial Marines got sued because the demo the reviewers received was of far superior quality than the game. It's considered false advertising because you're tricking the reviewers in giving the game good reviews and thus making people buy something worse. The demo the reviewers played for DAI was exactly like one of the missions we got in the game, so there was no false advertising.

 

See it like this, Aliens Colonial Marines was margarine when people thought they were buying butter. DAI is butter but some of us didn't really like the taste as much as we hoped for.

 

Statements like trying to go back more to Origins are purposely vague, enough to make people excited but not enough to make it a solid promise. That way they have the freedom to change the game if they feel it isn't good enough while still having hype float around - hype needed to earn back the game's spendings.

[Nibbin]

As I said in another thread, it's not so much about the content itself. I don't want to sue Bioware and am totally behind their right to craft their product however they please.

The problem is with accountability and the respect of the gamer. It's the principal of the thing. I spent a good time running around the game world trying to find these customization options for the captured keeps and others have brought up other features such as shaders and graphical issues because we were never told that this content (previously shown off as some of the strengths of inquisition) is not even there.

It would've been nice for that point to be acknowledged by the organization that so values it's player base.
This is a fantastic game in my opinion. But the ethical way in which this cut content has been treated is a bit lacking, and a bit rude.
You pay money for a product, you pay the wages and the funds for creating new games and new adventures. 
You should be treated with a certain amount of respect. 

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Bioware did commit false advertising with the PC version for Dragon Age Inquisition.

 

"The tactical camera ... is just like you'd expect from Origins. You'll be super, super pleased with it."

"Made for PC Gamers by PC Gamers."

"The combat HUD was created specifically for PC."

"With Inquisition we've kept that [PC] legacy."

 

Those are the things Bioware said and advertised about the PC version, which we now know to be shite. I am too far to do anything but yeah, I wish someone sued them for this blatant lie. 

[Spectre 117]

If Peter Molyneux hasn't gotten sued for false advertisement, then I doubt anyone else will be sued for removing a quest or changing some quest/gameplay element.

The Gearbox case is very different to what you are asking.

[Nibbin]

Bioware did commit false advertising with the PC version for Dragon Age Inquisition.

 

"The tactical camera ... is just like you'd expect from Origins. You'll be super, super pleased with it."

"Made for PC Gamers by PC Gamers."

"The combat HUD was created specifically for PC."

"With Inquisition we've kept that [PC] legacy."

 

Those are the things Bioware said and advertised about the PC version, which we now know to be shite. I am too far to do anything but yeah, I wish someone sued them for this blatant lie. 

This seems extremely strong. Are you not enjoying the game regardless? 
I'd just like them to acknowledge that this content was not as previously implied rather than seemingly pretend they didn't say these things. 

[Nefla]

People can attempt to sue anyone for any childish and retarded reason they choose. Doesn't mean anything will come of it other than the person being embarrassed.