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[LCDangereux]

Mage abilities

 

Has anyone got the ability static charge to work? I'm struggling to trigger it. I've also heard in a random reddit thread that conductive current may be doing half the damage bonus intended. Not sure if this will be easy to test.

 

Winter stillness breaks on the following abilities - energy barrage, fire mine, ice mine, blizzard. the little step forward seems to break it. On the other hand, there is an unlisted bonus of 30% cooldown reduction while it is active.

 

Rejuvenating barrier has a misconception of it applying to all barriers in the party. It does apply, but only the barrier cast by the character with rejuvenating barrier. If another mage without rejuvenating barrier casts their barrier, it will override and rejuvenating barrier will not apply.

 

Strangely enough mana surge is similar. If you cast it on allies, when it depletes they gain the same bonus individually, so each member gets to use a mana-free ability.

[hugin7]

Mage abilities

 

Has anyone got the ability static charge to work? I'm struggling to trigger it. I've also heard in a random reddit thread that conductive current may be doing half the damage bonus intended. Not sure if this will be easy to test.

 

Winter stillness breaks on the following abilities - energy barrage, fire mine, ice mine, blizzard. the little step forward seems to break it. On the other hand, there is an unlisted bonus of 30% cooldown reduction while it is active.

 

Rejuvenating barrier has a misconception of it applying to all barriers in the party. It does apply, but only the barrier cast by the character with rejuvenating barrier. If another mage without rejuvenating barrier casts their barrier, it will override and rejuvenating barrier will not apply.

 

Strangely enough mana surge is similar. If you cast it on allies, when it depletes they gain the same bonus individually, so each member gets to use a mana-free ability.

 

Static charge works for me by paralyzing enemies for about 2 sec, but there is no "shocked" status or damage.  Paralysis successfully triggers detonations.

 

Conductive Current is indeed half as effective as advertised.  However, this seems to be true only for non-Storm spells.  I didn't do a ton of trials for Storm, but it seemed that the talent worked as advertised for Storm spells only.

[Slanderbot]

A whole lot of good this new patch did.... >.>

[Phenix-De-Troy]

 

Mage Issue: 

 

Is anyone else having an issue with fire mine? One of four scenarios will usually occur:

 

1. Fire mine will work properly and trigger when enemy is near. 

2. Fire mine will disappear completely after being placed, no mana cost. 

3. Fire mine will disappear completely after being placed, mana is used.

4. A fire mine is already on the ground but has not been triggered, I place another fire mine down in a different spot, the original has not been removed and the newly cast one is gone, mana is used for newly cast fire mine.   

 

Yes I've got the same issues.

[LexXxich]

I sometimes see on a loading screen an advice "Use Chain Lighting on pairs of isolated enemies to paralyse them". I don't think it works. It might interrupt them, but certainly not paralyse.

[Selea]

Bump. It's important this thread stays in the first page so hopefully Bioware will resolve these issues.

[sinosleep]

How can so many skills in a single player game be bugged this far out from launch.

[Siven80]

How can so many skills in a single player game be bugged this far out from launch.

 

Feels like they focused too much on graphics and not enough on mechanics

[efd731]

Honestly, I'm just trying to see what passives do work, I've been trying to make the ultimate bow assassin, but the insane amount of bugged skills make this ridiculous.

[lastpawn]

How can so many skills in a single player game be bugged this far out from launch.

 

They were too busy patching more serious stuff so far.

 

I assume they'll get to many of these in the second round. For the most part, DA:I combat is easy, so none of these bugs are game-breaking.

[sinosleep]

They were too busy patching more serious stuff so far.

 

I assume they'll get to many of these in the second round. For the most part, DA:I combat is easy, so none of these bugs are game-breaking.

Forget about patching, it's ridiculous that so much of this made it past QA. In a multiplayer game, I can understand because half the time the situations that lead to bugs being discovered are one of kind things that simply can't be expected to be recreated regularly during QA because every player is different which introduces HUGE variables that can make bugs hard to find.

 

With this being a single player game though, any tester could have tracked every last thing that's been tracked here because it's all insanely easy to reproduce. I understand that a lot of these aren't exactly game breaking, but it does make a lot of abilities borderline useless. And considering this game doesn't exactly have all that many abilities it's a little silly that so many don't work as advertised.

 

I mean for crying out loud, 2 handed warriors have all of 2 detonators, NEITHER of which actually work. They had 2 skills to test in that tree, TWO, and they both make it live with neither one working? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

[gay_wardens]

Another glitch that isn't in the OP, which is absolutely game-breaking for the Alchemist in MP.

 

Flask of Fire is supposed to make your abilities cost no stamina, and the upgrade gives all your abilities no cooldown. When I use Elemental Mines that have the upgrade that uses all your stamina, this actually DOES cost you all your stamina. While this presents no problem with spamming elemental mines, it completely renders "Ride the Storm" - which makes your elixirs last 3 seconds longer if you use them right after another - useless, especially since the only reason to even have that ability is to get 3 more seconds on Flask of Frost.

 

I mean I could use Flask of Frost first to get the 3 seconds on Flask of Fire, but that's not helping me much considering the Alchemist will be dead before she can finish throwing the mines. 

[konfeta]

Welp, Flashpoint is fixed.

 

Glad I played RiftMage first so I had my share of fun with it before it got nuked.

[Selea]

Welp, Flashpoint is fixed.

 

Glad I played RiftMage first so I had my share of fun with it before it got nuked.

 

Even with 10 secs cooldown it is still a powerful passive on a nuke build and then you have Clean Burn anyway, that for a Rift Mage is even more reliable than Flashpoint to reduce CDs.

Let's speak frankly: 1) it was a bug as the tooltip clearly states that Flashpoint has a CD of 10 secs, 2) it was OP with an high crit chance build. It is not that suddenly Rift becomes gimped because of this. The only real thing that gimps a little the Rift spec atm is the weakened bug, but luckily it is easily circumvented by choosing your targets.

[konfeta]

But now I can no longer do this

 

 

 

[Capeo]

Even with 10 secs cooldown it is still a powerful passive on a nuke build and then you have Clean Burn anyway, that for a Rift Mage is even more reliable than Flashpoint to reduce CDs.

Let's speak frankly: 1) it was a bug as the tooltip clearly states that Flashpoint has a CD of 10 secs, 2) it was OP with an high crit chance build. It is not that suddenly Rift becomes gimped because of this. The only real thing that gimps a little the Rift spec atm is the weakened bug, but luckily it is easily circumvented by choosing your targets.

Yeah, I play a crit Rift Mage at the moment and prior to that fix Flashpoint was silly. Now I can only have two Static Cages at once rather than three or four lol. I have no problem with that. A few static cages and a pull going glitched the hell out of the game pretty often anyway. It was pure overkill.

They do need to fix the weakness bug though.

[Chaos17]

Updated December 5th 9th 14th.

 

Patch 2 Notes: It looks like none of the combat bugs were fixed in this patch. So most of your Warrior Shatters will still only do 1 damage, and so on (tested). It is possible that a few combat changes for the better were made, still trying to test those.

 

If an ability or a combat mechanic doesn't work for you (or does and you see it listed here!), post it in this thread.

 

Important! Many players, including myself, have noticed that in-game tooltips and attributes are (not infrequently) incorrect. This means that the only way to test whether a skill works (or doesn't) is to actually test it in combat.

 

Warrior Abilities

Spoiler

Combos

• Shatter combos, rupture combos, and basic combos detonated via Mighty Blow and Whirlwind yield only 1 damage (or very low damage in some cases). Confirmed by me and others. Update: This seems to occasionally happen with Shield Bash as well.

Counterstrike

• Requires Sword and Shield.

Crippling Blows

• No noticeable effect.
• Patch 2 notes: "Fixed Crippling Blows to have a 15% damage bonus instead of .15%" <= presumably means now correctly reduces enemy damage by 15%? Then again, it could just mean what it literally says.

Charging Bull

• Charge distance can be inconsistent. Buggy environmental interactions.

Earthshaking Strike

• Reports of Shattered Ground upgrade actually doing 200% damage per second for 8 seconds (a massive amount given 2H weapon damage).

Grappling Chain

• Occasionally has no effect (independent of shields, physical immunity, etc.) see video here.
• "The basic version doesn't do 100% weapon damage as indicated by the UI. Give Them the Boot upgrade only does 100% weapon damage and not 200% (or 300% if added to base), it applies knockdown and not a stun, which is why it can't prime combos" (Swin).

Rampage (Reaver)

• Requires 2H weapons, undocumented "feature" or a bug.

Shadow Strike

• Has odd interactions with some stealth passives (from Assassination tree). Has an unusual hitbox, perhaps intentional: will hit enemies on ground (though most normal attacks miss them) but will frequently miss moving targets.

Untouchable Defense

• Does not work.
• "I agree that it doesn't boost guard by 25%, it does however give my character 20% armor (rear) when guard is up, functioning the same as Trust the Steel. In fact they stack" (Swin).

 

Rogue Abilities

Spoiler

Bloodied Prey

• Based off of total # rather than %. This makes the ability largely useless, but may be intended.

Dance of Death + Deathblow

• Deathblow doesn't interact properly with Dance of Death -- see here.

Flank Attack

• On uneven terrain, can miss and teleport far over the target, wasting the ability use (zero damage and 8 second cooldown).
• Skirmisher upgrade occasionally does not result in stealth, possibly related to above.

Flask of Fire

• Provides unlimited focus in addition to stated unlimited stamina.

Flaskmaster

• Either (1) a bug in that the stated 25% proc does not apply to Elixirs (as in... Flasks -- tooltips mean Flasks when they state Elixirs), OR (2) a tooltip error, because the 25% DOES apply to potions (with the stated exception of healing potion).

Gaps in the Armor

• No character sheet increase in armor penetration, but some players reported a damage increase. Possibly "just" a tooltip omission.

Leaping Shot

• Glitchy environmental interactions. It's basically a big jump that can get you into some weird places. Not a common occurrence but here for the sake of completeness.

Twin Fangs

• Glitchy or odd knockdown interaction: enemies that are knocked down can turn to "face" you, preventing further flank attacks.

 

Mage Abilities

Spoiler

Rift Mage Specialization, Weakness status effect

• "If you renew weakness on a target while weakness is still active, the target will become immune to weakness for about 20 seconds" (Sidian). See this thread.

Barrier

• Elegant Defense upgrade: "Only reduces the cooldown if the spell was cast upon the caster and it expires, barriers expiring on other party members do not trigger the 4s cooldown reduction. Perhaps intended but the UI description suggests otherwise" (Swin).

Blizzard

• Glitchy behavior when caster runs out of mana.

Conductive Current

• Seems to provide only half the listed damage.

Flashfire

• Blistering Pain upgrade has no effect. (Confirm?)

Flash Point

• No internal cooldown (should be 10 seconds).

Gathering Storm

• No effect.

Immolate

• Is not a detonator.

Mana Surge

• Sometimes does nothing when barriers are destroyed. Chaotic Focus passive may be responsible for this, at least in part.

Mind Blast

• Fortifying Blast upgrade does not work.

​Simulacrum

• "Casting spells without cost" reported not to work. Others report it working adequately (PC). (Confirm?)

Spirit Mark

• "Necromancer's Spirit Mark can sometimes glitch at the moment of affected enemy's death and not set it as caster's "pet". Which leads to undead enemy sometimes retaining its original disposition (like staying hostile to party) or becoming neutral to everything. Both of these cases still show ability as engaged, but clicking it again produces targeting cursor. Only way for undead enemy to despawn is to wait out it's timer" (LexXxich).

Static Charge

• Paralyzes instead of shocks (bug or a tooltip error).

Stonefist (aka Fadefist)

• May be afflicted with the Impact Combo Detonator bug that Warriors have. In my copy of the game, it detonates the Shatter combos for NO damage. Damage numbers don't show up (and enemies' health doesn't drop, either).

Stormbringer

• Reports of this skill not activating. Still, it works for me and others. Can test for yourself easily by setting AI to off, getting into combat, and waiting a bit to see whether any of the enemies are getting hit (I get a small blue spark animation).

 

General Effects

Spoiler

Armor boosts

• "All armor buffs will only increase a character's rear armor, but not the front armor. This is the case regardless if you are using shield or not. The one exception is the Rock Armor Tonic, which increases both rear and front armor. On the "bright" side, a properly geared tank should take only 1 damage most of the time from the front due to the ridiculous stacking of shield's 30% front defense, Turn the Blade and Turn the Bolt" (GhoXen).

Bleed abilities (both on hit and when hit)

• Most do not work, see GhoXen's thread. However, Manki reports that a "bleed on hit" ring does work.

Crowd Control (CC) durations

• hugin7 reports that these are all over the place. For example, Full Draw upgrade Stunning Shot lasts longer than the tooltip states (30 seconds vs 20), while fully upgraded Flashfire lasts less (11 sec vs 20).

Item # bonuses (potions, ingredients, bombs)

• Sometimes do not work correctly in the field.

Ring and Mastercraft bonuses

• Seem to "work" but only by their own Byzantine logic. See GhoXen's thread for details. Others don't seem to work at all. Kind of a mess.

True Grit

• Grants 10% defenses to the Main Character and not the entire party.

Did you reported that in the technical forum ?

A modo said any technical stuff problem shoud be posted there or on twitter.

[sinosleep]

I linked to this thread on two different bioware Twitter accounts that have responded in the past hopefully this thread gets looked at soon

[sinosleep]

Well I linked to another one. And now I'm sad

[Kage]

Thanks for this post.

I am in my second playthrough, as a 2h Warrior, and I feel like I should have waited for this character. People are complaining about 2h warriors being bad, but that is not the problem, the problem is they are broken. If you are not careful, you are really making things worse by detonating combos for 1 damage while aggroing a lot of people with a weak WW.

 

Whirlwind right now is a joke, since when it seems most beneficial is actually when you do NOT have to use it. People doesnt now this. Good thing I know thanks to you guys. I have found that DISCHARGE works, so all my mages have Lightning Bolt and Static Cage, which is the only way to reach that combo with my abilities.

 

However, my poor sleeping Varric is being kind of useless.

 

Well, good thing I am going for Templar. I will have a detonator that works then!!!!

 

I would unlearn WW, if it wasnt so fkin fun to spin to win. Well, spin to lose. But stil fun spinning. I just.... cant.... stop... trying.... Maybe this time, maybe this time will combo correctly.... Have to try it again....  1

[Navek]

 

Shadow Strike

• Has odd interactions with some stealth passives (from Assassination tree). Has an unusual hitbox, perhaps intentional: will hit enemies on ground (though most normal attacks miss them) but will frequently miss moving targets.

Let me say this is a damn great page thank you truly so much good info here. I think shadow strike is should to be in the rogue tree not warrior rite? Great work and thank you to all who help contribute.

[konfeta]

Did Bioware fix Shocked + Weaken = Sleep combo? Couldn't get it to work last I played.

[sinosleep]

As far as I'm aware nothing on this page has even been acknowledged, let alone fixed.

[KingJoshington]

I'm happy I found this list.  It's a shame so many of the skills are bugged.  I really felt like I had been duped when I read the clarification on the barrier cool down upgrade (which I had given to ALL of my mages).  I rarely have the mages cast barrier on themselves, so it really wasn't doing anything.  

 

I hope some of these combat issues get fixed before I finish the game entirely and move on ... 

[lastpawn]

Thanks for this post.

I am in my second playthrough, as a 2h Warrior, and I feel like I should have waited for this character. People are complaining about 2h warriors being bad, but that is not the problem, the problem is they are broken. If you are not careful, you are really making things worse by detonating combos for 1 damage while aggroing a lot of people with a weak WW.

 

Whirlwind right now is a joke, since when it seems most beneficial is actually when you do NOT have to use it. People doesnt now this. Good thing I know thanks to you guys. I have found that DISCHARGE works, so all my mages have Lightning Bolt and Static Cage, which is the only way to reach that combo with my abilities.

 

However, my poor sleeping Varric is being kind of useless.

 

Well, good thing I am going for Templar. I will have a detonator that works then!!!!

 

I would unlearn WW, if it wasnt so fkin fun to spin to win. Well, spin to lose. But stil fun spinning. I just.... cant.... stop... trying.... Maybe this time, maybe this time will combo correctly.... Have to try it again....  1

 

My solution to playing a 2H warrior was to avoid cold effects, have mages focus on lightning, and go with Templar for that sweet 2H Wratp => Purge combo. 

 

But I did eventually table my 2H warrior playthrough until these things are patched up since I do love freeze into shatter.