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#451
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Well if you can make money doing that, wonderful. However if you go bankrupt, you failed as a business.

 

Your success in business is determined by whether or not you are financially viable. You might not like but that's the way it is.

 

Is Bioware going bankrupt?  Are they going out of business?  When was this announced?  That's a shame for them given that they just released a game that had moderately successful opening weekend sales numbers. 



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Yeah, you have no idea of knowing if that's the case. Until you can deliver statistics proving this, I would just avoid that particular argument if I were you. 

As I have said in one of my first posts here, it is my assumptions based on the other AAA titles. Chances for me being wrong are slim, top model slim.

 

I know what you're speaking of, but there's no collectivization of our contributions going on here. You are not contributing any more than anyone else. You don't get more.

 

Bioware is the one acting collectively. And they get to decide who they want to appeal to. Not you.

There is. It is a standard practise to provide more to the biggest contributor. If it does not happen then it shows clearly  the political statement/agenda. This is why I have said it is a good moment to rethink further DA purchase.

 

 

If this is the base of the argument that you and a couple of others "straight men" consumers are giving, maybe you should clear that out first. Then, among that so called homogenous fanbase, asking whether or not you all universally agree. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just tired of this argument, that they are more guys playing the game that gals and therefore it should be "fixed" ; my feeling is that they are a lot of invested women providing feedback, art and writing. Are we the sole gamers of BioWare games ? Of course not. is it simply my own biased perception ? Of course it is. If you're hanging on 4chan, Tumblr or here, your perception is going to differ. It doesn't mean I'm right or wrong, it just means one shouldn't call on BioWare insufferable pandering without re-evaluating one's "facts". That, and I don't believe what hangs between your legs or not means you're doomed to think a certain way.

It has been cleared multiple times when other AAA titles were concerned, but yes, this one requires numbers too. We most definately differ in our beliefs.

 

 

They are. Everyone pays the same amount for their copy of the game. Unless you're talking about entitlement. You wouldn't do that, would you?

I would and I do it.

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#453
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People, we're talking about romance subplots. This is a very small part of the game. Stop pretending it impacts sales.


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#454
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I think Bioware would be quite happy if the men who complain about Josephine and Cassandra never brought another game of theirs.


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I would and I do it.

Well, good for you, but you aren't entitled to anything just because you were born a certain way. No one is. Alienating a portion of their audience, just to appease you(one person), is bad for business.


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I think Bioware would be quite happy if the men who complain about Josephine and Cassandra never brought another game of theirs.

hahahaha, no... No they wouldn't. they would take a MASSIVE drop in sales.

I love Cass, but Josie is dry, boring, and plain



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DAI is not an RPG, it is an MMO/FPS hybrid with RPG elements.

ummm

1. the game is primarily single player

2. you cant play in first person

3. there is no shooting


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#458
Lord Surinen

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Well, good for you, but you aren't entitled to anything just because you were born a certain way. No one is. Alienating a portion of their audience, just to appease you(one person), is bad for business.

Actually my money (if it is in the majority pool) entitles me to x y and z. It is not bad for business. As I have said majority of contributors should get more than the rest. It is not alienating but fair distribution.



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I completely forgot about Josephine. I forfeit this entire argument im making.

Then can we close this embarrassing thread now? 

 

Some people really need to settle down and investigate the grandiose incorrect claims they attempt to push out.



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Your success in business is determined in part by whether or not you are financially viable.

ftfy.

 

Then the question becomes... so what? BW is obviously still financially viable, so why shouldn't they indulge their other values?



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DAI is not an RPG, it is an MMO/FPS hybrid with RPG elements.

 

So I take it your not buying a Bioware game ever again  :rolleyes:



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Actually my money (if it is in the majority pool) entitles me to x y and z. It is not bad for business. As I have said majority of contributors should get more than the rest. It is not alienating but fair distribution.

1. No it doesn't. There is no "majority pool." All that matters is what you personally paid for the game so far as entitlement is concerned. Beyond that, you're entitled to nothing.

2. Yes it is. If you offer more content to a specific part of the audience, the rest will lose interest and/or feel alienated by the devs/publishers.

3. No, that's bad for business.

4. It is alienating to tell a portion of the audience that they just don't matter as much as the rest, and it is not "fair distribution." Everyone paid the same for their copy of the game. That is ALL that matters.


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Nathair Nimheil

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Actually my money (if it is in the majority pool) entitles me to x y and z. It is not bad for business. As I have said majority of contributors should get more than the rest. It is not alienating but fair distribution.

The unsupported "should" is strong in this one. Should according to what, or whom? Newton's Third Law, a sense of fair play, the Chamber of Commerce, your personal desire?


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#464
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DAI is not an RPG, it is an MMO/FPS hybrid with RPG elements.

 

 

I've always liked this bit of bulls***. How many "RPG elements" does a game need before it's an RPG?



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If you want to present it in those terms then Yes. The market that built this company is no longer the target market of the company. It quite probably never was.
 
Why does a company have to say "Hey, you know what? Let's market our product exclusively to this slice of the population and exclude everybody else! Even if the chance arises to broaden our appeal let's, instead, make sure that we offend everyone but that one narrow demographic!"
 
Nonsense. If I form a business what defines my success or failure is whatever I want measure it by. Rampant Capitalism is not a law of nature. If I want to start a business that, say, markets toys designed to get girls interested and involved in STEM areas then profit is not my one and only goal. This is why GoldieBlox doesn't sell Barbies or toy guns or pharmaceuticals or motor oil or methamphetamine. It's not all just about money.

Nonsense. There are these things like market niche and creation of trends/needs. What you have described is a perfect example of both. It is about money.

 

 

Please, refrain from posting out of your... assumptions.

 

 

Please, refrain from veiled vulgarities.

 

 

Keep working on those delusions darling! Who knows, maybe someday you'll get something so wrong it's actually right. 

I'm right.

 

 

1. No it doesn't. There is no "majority pool." All that matters is what you personally paid for the game so far as entitlement is concerned. Beyond that, you're entitled to nothing.

2. Yes it is. If you offer more content to a specific part of the audience, the rest will lose interest and/or feel alienated by the devs/publishers.

3. No, that's bad for business.

4. It is alienating to tell a portion of the audience that they just don't matter as much as the rest, and it is not "fair distribution." Everyone paid the same for their copy of the game. That is ALL that matters.

1. Yes, it does. This is how businesses operate.

 

2. You mean like straight males in DA:I? Most probably the majority of monetary contributors.

 

3. No, it is not bad for business.

 

4. It is fair distribution. Purchase of DA is not obligatory.



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The unsupported "should" is strong in this one. Should according to what, or whom? Newton's Third Law, a sense of fair play, the Chamber of Commerce, your personal desire?

Healthy exchange: capitalism



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Sex is not always romance but all romance has love making.

 

No it doesn't. Which is I think, the entire crux of this thread. 


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4. It is alienating to tell a portion of the audience that they just don't matter as much as the rest

This is true even to people who are not of that particular portion of the audience. For example, I am annoyed by the exclusion of people of colour or the whitewashing of characters in entertainment even though I have the complexion of Mrs. Stay Puft. (I guess that makes me a SJW, eh?)
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Nonsense. There are these things like market niche and creation of trends/needs. What you have described is a perfect example of both. It is about money.

 

 

Please, refrain from veiled vulgarities.

 

 

I'm right.

 

 

1. Yes, it does. This is how businesses operate.

 

2. You mean like straight males in DA:I? Most probably the majority of monetary contributors.

 

3. No, it is not bad for business.

 

4. It is fair distribution. Purchase of DA is not obligatory.

 

Honey, you're only right based on your own unsupported arguments, prejudice and sense of self-entitlement. Do yourself a favor and end this discussion before you embarrass yourself further. 


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Healthy exchange: capitalism

 

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This thread has run it's course.  We are done here.


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