Because I think its an injustice committed against a minority of people. I love all people and will happily stand up for all people and their struggles no matter how small or insignificant others might view their struggles as.
Thank you for standing up for the underdog...
Everyone has at least two romance options.
I hope we are now settled, else inb4 the lock...
Can we ban people from the forums for complaining about romance options for straight men?
Particularly those who say Cass looks manly.
Can we ban people from the forums for complaining about romance options for straight men?
Particularly those who say Cass looks manly.
Resorting to censorship is not the most civilized course of action one can take. It is a tyrannical course of action though.
Cass and Josephine are both fantastically well written. As a matter of fact I had trouble choosing between both, because I found the two of them to be very interesting. And I really don't get how Josephine isn't cute according to people.
It's funny how pandering to a group is only bad when you don't belong to that group.
I'm a straight white male gamer. Almost every single other game on the market (especially AAA ones) panders to me in some way or another, from The Witcher and its 20 sex cards to Call of Duty and its America **** Yeah power fantasy. At this point, it's just been accepted as the norm, even for Bioware to a degree. Then they decide to break the norm for one game and suddenly the floodgate of tears start. I am sorry, but this is really a bit pathetic.
Don't like the options? Fine, that's up to you. Perhaps gay men don't like either IB or Dorian either, and from what I've seen those who wanted to romance a lesbian are sometimes dissapointed by Sera. But please, let's not get even started on the ''biower shafted us!!'' victim train. Of all the demographics in gaming, sorry to say, us stright while male gamers are dead last in terms of having things to complan about.
Resorting to censorship is not the most civilized course of action one can take. It is a tyrannical course of action though.
No-one enjoys these threads.
Well, considering how vocal feminists are every time the opposite happens, I don't see why others can't be vocal as well, in this case.
Sure, you are allowed to be vocal.
And other people are allowed to put you in the same basket of annoying whiners whenever a game doesn't cater to their specific preferences.
Actually, the straight male gamers feeling shafted are a bit more annoying, because they have so many other game options which caters specifically to them. I'm curious about how many female players find the romances in The Witcher (any of them) particularly rewarding.
Naw, just treat it as a teachable moment.Can we ban people from the forums for complaining about romance options for straight men?
Cass and Josephine are both fantastically well written. As a matter of fact I had trouble choosing between both, because I found the two of them to be very interesting. And I really don't get how Josephine isn't cute according to people.
I personally thought Josephine is pretty blandly written. Her concept and role is "diplomat" and every character trait is just an extension of this role. There is no personality, no flaw, no edge, no strong opinion or stance on any issue in her. There is no driving force other than "yeah, I need to be the diplomat for the inquisition and the head of my house".
Vivienne is to me the much more interesting character. I would've really liked to romance her.
Leliana is the best (both her faith crisis and her role in the time warp of the mage quest is awesome writing), but...well, she's already got somebody. Even though that's me.
Can we ban people from the forums for complaining about romance options for straight men?
Particularly those who say Cass looks manly.
1st: No, because that is a completely legitimate complaint. There is a reason why there are tons of complaints about the romance options for straight male players in DA Inquisition but there weren´t for pass Bioware/EA games (Mass Effect saga and DA:O and DA 2), the complaint is legit.
2nd: Cassandra is just a woman because the game tells you so, because the way she looks and the way she acts are manlier than me on real life and than all of the DA characters (yes, even Iron Bull) on the game. She is not cute or hot by at least 90% of real life straight man. And about Josephine, she is not cute or hot, she is simply averague by videogame´s women standardts (and between averague and ugly for real life standards of most heterosexual males) and her romance is basically "I have the sexual experience of a 5 year old girl so we are portray this as a Disney romance"
3rd: The OP hasn´t commit any infraction, he is discussing what a lot of us are discussing and complaining about: options for straight male players in this game sucks
4th: What is a reason for a ban actually is asking to ban another user/users so be careful with your comments.
No-one enjoys these threads.
Discussions and debates are never always enjoyable.
I am a straight male gamer myself and I decided to outright not bother with the romances in DAI and have my Inquisitor be single.
They are for one, too one sided. The love interests are just there to be gamed essentially. They do not give you any gifts, do not change their tone and did not attempt to initiate anything with you. DAO had all that. Morrigan gives you a ring, Alistair a rose, Zevran a pair of earrings. They also changed their tone towards you and will try to initiate a relationship with you. Additionally, you can have different paths in a romance. You can harden Leliana and engage in wild orgy or be super nice to her and take it slowly which she approves.
For DAI ? Nyet. All that is gone. You just click the flirt option in a dialogue over and over again, do one quest for them and that's it. How is this more natural and more nuanced than before ? Sounds like it is more shallow than before. Cassandra gives you nothing. Josephine is even worse actually, she just friendzones you.
Then there is the love interest options. I will focus on the straight male ones. In previous games, you always had 2 very different women in every single way. Emphasis on every single way.
In DAO, Morrigan was an agnostic who does not give a damn about Chantry whereas Leliana is a born again Andrastian. In DA2, Merrill was a devout Dalish with her firm beliefs in the Creators and ancient Elven lore whereas Isabela is a pirate ****** who is all about YOLO.
In DAI, Cassandra is a religious Andrastian human noblewoman, even if she does not care for it and Josephine is also an Andrastian human noblewoman. Sure both approach things in a different way but their beliefs are very similar. Philosophically, they are both exactly the same. Which means if you are roleplaying an Inquisitor who thinks that the Herald thing is bullshite and is not an Andrastian, you will find yourself on opposite ends with them, at least philosophically. This was never an issue with DAO or DA2.
Additionally, why is it almost always human females for straight males? Merill was the only exception. I thought Dagna or Harding would be an option to change things up or to shake things up a bit but nope, human females once again !
Hmm, the sweet scent of indignant straight-male-gamer tears. Wow, must suck not having your every whim catered to for five freaking seconds.
1st: No, because that is a completely legitimate complaint. There is a reason why there are tons of complaints about the romance options for straight male players in DA Inquisition but there weren´t for pass Bioware/EA games (Mass Effect saga and DA:O and DA 2), the complaint is legit.
But in Origins we had 2 romance options and in DA2 we had 2 romance options. How is it in Inquisition we get 2 and suddenly we're being shafted?
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Hmm, the sweet scent of indignant straight-male-gamer tears. Wow, must suck not having your every whim catered to for five freaking seconds.
::checks thread::
"Yes, hello. I would like to preface this rant with the fact that I am a straight male--"
::leaves thread::
Can we ban people from the forums for complaining about romance options for straight men?
Particularly those who say Cass looks manly.
yeah, that would please you and your radical feminist world view, wouldn't it? Get rid off everyone who doesn't share your opinion by force. I guess you also think mother earth needs saving from all that human scum crawling upon her, right?
But in Origins we had 2 romance options and in DA2 we had 2 romance options. How is it in Inquisition we get 2 and suddenly we're being shafted?
Because in Origins and DA 2 we could romance actually ATRACTIVE, CUTE AND HOT women with very different views on life, phylosophies and personalities that gave us interesting and different romances (specially in Origins) that changed the characters. DA Inquisition, as it has been pointed out thousands of times already, gives straigh male players the option to romance 2 ugly women, one of them is a man with a female name and the other a woman who moves between a ugly-averague scale of sex appeal whose romance sucks for anything that´s not a Disney film.
This is what most straight male players want for a Love Interest in a videogame:
http://forum.bioware.../#entry17900695
Simply as that. But then the ugly members of feminist organitations starts to cry because "that gives men unrealistic expectations about real life women" and that kind of bullshit. But ey! Let´s give women a hollywood supermodel strong blond young guy in a leadership position that seems rude and hard on the outside but is sweet and caring in the inside (Cullen), we all know that´s exactly the way 100% males of real life are!!
How did this make it to four pages?
It's Sunday.
Because morrigan covers the pretty dark and edgy based and Lil covers the pretty sweet and religious bases (there is much more to their characters I know)But in Origins we had 2 romance options and in DA2 we had 2 romance options. How is it in Inquisition we get 2 and suddenly we're being shafted?
Because in Origins and DA 2 we could romance actually ATRACTIVE, CUTE AND HOT women with very different views on life, phylosophies and personalities that gave us interesting and different romances (specially in Origins) that changed the characters. DA Inquisition, as it has been pointed out thousands of times already, gives straigh male players the option to romance 2 ugly women, one of them is a man with a female name and the other a woman who moves between a ugly-averague scale of sex appeal whose romance sucks for anything that´s not a Disney film.
I think both Josie and Cass are hot, so kindly drop that ''we'' and speak for yourself.
Because in Origins and DA 2 we could romance actually ATRACTIVE, CUTE AND HOT women with very different views on life, phylosophies and personalities that gave us interesting and different romances (specially in Origins) that changed the characters. DA Inquisition, as it has been pointed out thousands of times already, gives straigh male players the option to romance 2 ugly women, one of them is a man with a female name and the other a woman who moves between a ugly-averague scale of sex appeal whose romance sucks for anything that´s not a Disney film.
But personal preference -
Actually **** it, I'd rather watch you pretend that all straight men have the same taste. /popcorns
But in Origins we had 2 romance options and in DA2 we had 2 romance options. How is it in Inquisition we get 2 and suddenly we're being shafted?
Morrigan and Leliana as characters were awesome and their romances were great too, especially Morrigans.
Jospehine's romance is a bad stereotypical joke, her character is not really interesting and I think enough has been said about Cassandra already. This is how "we" are suddenly being "shafted".
1st: No, because that is a completely legitimate complaint. There is a reason why there are tons of complaints about the romance options for straight male players in DA Inquisition but there weren´t for pass Bioware/EA games (Mass Effect saga and DA:O and DA 2), the complaint is legit.
2nd: Cassandra is just a woman because the game tells you so, because the way she looks and the way she acts are manlier than me on real life and than all of the DA characters (yes, even Iron Bull) on the game. She is not cute or hot by at least 90% of real life straight man. And about Josephine, she is not cute or hot, she is simply averague by videogame´s women standardts (and between averague and ugly for real life standards of most heterosexual males) and her romance is basically "I have the sexual experience of a 5 year old girl so we are portray this as a Disney romance"
3rd: The OP hasn´t commit any infraction, he is discussing what a lot of us are discussing and complaining about: options for straight male players in this game sucks
4th: What is a reason for a ban actually is asking to ban another user/users so be careful with your comments.
Not every romance involves sex.
I was generalising not saying one person. I dont see cassandra as ugly or Josephine.
yeah, that would please you and your radical feminist world view, wouldn't it? Get rid off everyone who doesn't share your opinion by force. I guess you also think mother earth needs saving from all that human scum crawling upon her, right?
Me a radical Feminist ? I wonder what actual feminists would be like to you then. Some uber Feminist? I need to examine myself in a new light.
The threads all say the same thing "Cassandra is a man, I want a cheerleader and sex with Josephine"
There are plenty of other games out there to give you the hot girl romance, why should Bioware cater to them and not to everyone as it does?
Getting rid of everyone who doesnt share my opinion? Well the world would be dull.
As for the last bit? Not my problem.
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