Because NPCs taking the initiative led to endless, endless complaining.
Yeah, but shouldn't they be designing this game just for me? No? Bummer.
I think it's awesome ... except in Fable 2 where entire towns would swarm your character like a rock star. That was always a little uncomfortable.
Go play Mass Effect 2 then. The Dragon Age games have only ever given you two straight female options. Just because the straight ladies got four this time around (and even then, only the elven ladies get to choose from all four), doesn't mean the rest of us should.
Am I saying I wouldn't like to romance Blackwall or Cullen or Solas as a DudeQuisitor, or for Cassandra to be available for the ladies? No, I'd have loved for them to be options for me. But they're not. They're straight and I'll take defined characters over playersexuality any day if it means I finally get to see gay characters in the games I love.
Besides, the same 2 romances can provide plenty of different roleplay opportunities if you think about them deeply enough. My Dorian examples came up to what? Six or seven different possibilities? And that's just what I came up with off the top of my head. Doran alone could keep me occupied for several playthroughs before I even think about riding the Bull. Now, I don't know Cass and Josie well enough to say if their personalities or stories allow for as much variation as the guys do, so maybe you're right and your options are terrible this time around, but it's certainly not a universal issue with this game.
I actually think that restricted romances give more opportunity to role play. It happens in RL that someone likes you and someone sure don't. You get to feel for your Inquisitor when Vivienne goes - Oh, that is so cute that you would think i would be with you. So funny.
I was like - Ouch. That was rough.
Well the easy cure would be to give the NPC sexuality over to player controlled via the options menue, or in the initial start game set up. Let us decide, then we can romance whoever we like with any PC we like.
They'd end up having to write separate back stories and (probably) personal quests for each combination, alter party banter significantly to reflect the huge array of possible combinations... or just make all the stories, quests and banter generic. The first would be awesome. (And an enormous undertaking.) The second option would suck.
Another Dorian fan! I LOVE that character. Inside of 5 minutes I loved him. Before I was done with his introductory quest he was my favorite companion.
My male inquisitor also loved Dorian as a best bud. I romanced Josey but Dorian quickly became a go to in my group. Vivianne talked too much and said "My dear" way too often. Solas kept dying. Dorian was always a blast to talk with when I came back to Skyhold and he had a good storyline.
iCooper I believe i'll play whichever game I choose to tyvm. Just because you disagree it doesn't give you the right to start being vicious over it and ordering other people about.
But there aren't less romance options. For straight men, which I assume you are, there are two romance options, just like in DA:O and DA2. Both genders and all sexualities included, there are eight - more romance options than in any other DA game.
So I'm with the others who are confused - what is it exactly you are complaining about?
No actually the other romance option of Josephine isn't really a romance as much as a half romance and in order for me to do the other romances i have to pick a specific gender race or sexuality. I would much prefer to have the options open rather than restricting them all entirely by gender/sexuality/race i think someone made a good suggestion here about giving us the option of deciding ourselves. Not a bad idea don't you think?
No actually the other romance option of Josephine isn't really a romance as much as a half romance and in order for me to do the other romances i have to pick a specific gender race or sexuality. I would much prefer to have the options open rather than restricting them all entirely by gender/sexuality/race i think someone made a good suggestion here about giving us the option of deciding ourselves. Not a bad idea don't you think?
It would be really good that we can also choose our bad guy. His motives, what he likes to eat, appearance, powers and so on. That would be so frakking awesome.
iCooper I believe i'll play whichever game I choose to tyvm. Just because you disagree it doesn't give you the right to start being vicious over it and ordering other people about.
Not i what i meant but thanks for trying. You obviously put effort in to the post so here have a cookie. However it would be nice to let the person role playing decide who they want to romance, no?
Vicious? Ordering you about? Stop playing the victim. It was a suggestion (admittedly, a somewhat sarcastic one). You want more than two straight romance options for dudes? The only Bioware game that has offered that is ME2. Hence my suggestion.
It was only a suggestion on my part considering it is an RPG so there is not need to get worked up about it let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Not i what i meant but thanks for trying. You obviously put effort in to the post so here have a cookie. However it would be nice to let the person role playing decide who they want to romance, no?
However it would be nice to let the person role playing decide who they want to romance, no?
They do. You can want to romance anyone you like.
If, on the other hand, you really mean it would be nice if BW made all the companions romanceable to anyone, they did. DA2. People hated it. That was pointed out to you way back at the beginning of this thread. They tried it your way and it was enormously unpopular. So, No. That's about it.
They do. You can want to romance anyone you like.
If, on the other hand, you really mean it would be nice if BW made all the companions romanceable to anyone, they did. DA2. People hated it. That was pointed out to you way back at the beginning of this thread. They tried it your way and it was enormously unpopular. So, No. That's about it.
Actually, it had quite a few people praising it (myself included), at least as many as those attacking it, IIRC.
From a RP and game design wise the romances being open like DA 2 is so much better but than again I like characters with preferences, the problem is when there is an imbalance on the female party members, alas more romance for PC females overall.
They do. You can want to romance anyone you like.
If, on the other hand, you really mean it would be nice if BW made all the companions romanceable to anyone, they did. DA2. People hated it. That was pointed out to you way back at the beginning of this thread. They tried it your way and it was enormously unpopular. So, No. That's about it.
That would depend where you looked really.
Despite the title of this thread I can't read it as anything other than yet another straight male complaining about how inclusive this game is which the forum already is over flooding with.
Despite the title of this thread I can't read it as anything other than yet another straight male complaining about how inclusive this game is which the forum already is over flooding with.
It isn't always about being straight or male my other posts in the sexuality threads would back that up. Rather i have to design my inquisitor around certain models to achieve specific outcomes to create a unique experience each time i play. Which has me feeling slightly less enthusiastic about playing through my third time. Certain romances require specific details and that takes the decision out of my hands.
EDIT: And for the record i prefer women IRL but i'm not exactly opposed to men either. I shouldn't have to bring that up to have this discussion either btw but i apparently i need to. (Great i came out on a forum ugh.)
Actually, it had quite a few people praising it (myself included), at least as many as those attacking it, IIRC.
Then take it up with BW. They tried it and clearly did not consider it a success (and one would hope that they have much better market analysis capability than, say, you.)
EDIT: And for the record i prefer women IRL but i'm not exactly opposed to men either. I shouldn't have to bring that up to have this discussion either btw but i apparently i need to. (Great i came out on a forum ugh.)
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There's no need to be hostile please Nathair.
Mazel Tov!
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No thank you i suspect my ex would have me in court in a custody battle pretty quick. In any case back on topic please.
Backstory: I'm gay.
So this game actually got me the first gay romance in fantasy games ever. Typically, I play the straight role, like the HoF. I just couldn't see him going with Zevran, and Morrigan's personality was just far too enticing to pass up. So voila!
DA:2 I went with Isabella (regretted it after I figured out she's all stereotype pirate) then went with Merrill, both really good romance options. But the guy options? Ick.
With Inquisition came Dorian and I was skeptical. I was watching the videos and the threads involving his character before launch and I'm used to gay characters being very... well, gay. But for the first time, I could actually connect with the guy and decided to let go of my typical "Straight hero" and went with it.
Do I think that we need every sexual orientation in the game? No, definitely not. Dragon age 2's "Everybody can do EVERYONE!" was very uncharacteristic. Orientation is part of who we are and just flinging labels around on characters who don't fit it doesn't work. That said, I do believe that DA:I did it fairly well for the LGBT side of things and they all fit their characters perfectly.
It isn't always about being straight or male my other posts in the sexuality threads would back that up. Rather i have to design my inquisitor around certain models to achieve specific outcomes to create a unique experience each time i play. Which has me feeling slightly less enthusiastic about playing through my third time. Certain romances require specific details and that takes the decision out of my hands.
EDIT: And for the record i prefer women IRL but i'm not exactly opposed to men either. I shouldn't have to bring that up to have this discussion either btw but i apparently i need to. (Great i came out on a forum ugh.)
How isn't it about sexuality when you are basically saying that you refuse to play as anything other than a straight human male and want to have an endless harem of straight women to romance otherwise you "feel slightly less enthusiastic about playing". Dragon Age Inquisition gives you so many options and possibilities for "unique experiences" and the combinations of what race and what sexuality you pick for your character is amazing, honestly I'm just baffled that you feel like you aren't given enough options.
It's really hard to write characters that doesn't have a preference from a writers point because in the end of the day those preferences do define us as people. If everyone was bi in DA:I we wouldn't have Dorians storyline, we wouldn't have Solas storyline and we wouldn't have characters like Varric who is already in love with someone else because then people would scream it was unfair.
I havent played as a human either......just so you know you're wrong about that part too and i also romanced Zevran in DA:O.
The only reason you're seeing sexuality in my posts (and apparently pro human stance) is because you want to. Could it be a possiblity i just want more variety without being hemmed into predetermined choices?
EDIT: Broken keyboard arrrrgh.
I havent played as a human either......just so you know you're wrong about that and i also romanced Zevran in DA:O.
If that's the only thing you have to bring to this "discussion thread" of yours than I don't really see the point of keeping this thread alive.
You say you don't want to design your Inquisitor in a specific way in order to romance a certain character with restrictions of sexuality or race because it "takes the decision out of your hands" yet at the same time you want to play the same game over and over as one type of character and have a unique experience every time. Do you see how silly that seems?
The game gives you these great opportunities and options to have a ton of different game experiences as different races and sexuality yet you refuse to try any of them?
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