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[Bruxae]

Why aren't we allowed to kick members out of the Inquisition? Normally I could understand why the feature was simply not included but what really confuses me is that we ARE able to kick out Sera but no one else? "You are not right for the Inquisition.". I get that she's a bit special but i'd say that certain other characters are way worse or at the very least equally "special", take for an example Cole who is stealing from us and generally causing trouble, or Vivienne who flat out lies and manipulates us, or what about Blackwall who is a freaking mass child murderer?! Yes, we can tell Cole to stop, we can leave Blackwall in prison - but then you loose his gear and you can't get the quest out of your log, if you do decide to bring him to Skyhold for judgement you can choose to keep him around in 3 different wordings. Another thing that confuses me is that supposedly companions can leave on their own if your approval gets too low, despite Vivenne disagreeing with every decision I made she never did leave, but the point is IF that is true - why can't we just be allowed to kick them out? 

 

Did I miss it somehow? 

[Vanth]

I agree. I would have liked to kick some of them out too. I was a bit annoyed by the Blackwall thing too. I got him out thinking I would be able to execute him myself, but then had to suffer him for the rest of the game.

[SpiritWolf448]

Well, the thing here is that BioWarEA does not want to give you a choice, only the illusion of a choice. Proper choices and consequences would create far too many variables that may or may not have to have an impact later. Which would require more work, which equals more manhours developing the game which means less profit. So basically, it is basically a business decision.

[movieguyabw]

Proper choices and consequences would create far too many variables that may or may not have to have an impact later.

 

You can refuse to recruit practically everyone in the game.  Not recruiting them, and telling them to leave would both yield the same result later on.  So, no.  It's not an issue of there being too many variables.

 

As for telling other party members to leave - I actually agree; it was weird that I had an option to tell Sera to go, but no one else.  I feel like, though, during Sera's recruitment mission there were different options when it came to recruiting her.  Maybe I'm just remembering it wrong, but I feel like my character told her she could join the Inquisition... for now; and that if I decided it wasn't going to work out, then she would have to go.  I want to say there was probably another option during that scene - but I'm not too sure.

 

Everyone else - I'm assuming that if your approval with them drops too low you'll have the option of telling them to go away.  I don't know for certain, because Sera was the only one who I had low approval with.  Everyone else I ended up as friends with. 

 

I do know with Sera, she will actually confront you after her loyalty mission and tell you if you continue to ****** her off she'll leave.  You then are given a choice of just kicking her out or letting her stay - but again, that's not that impressive since you've always had that option with her.  I would imagine the other party members have a similar moment, but I can't say for sure.

 

I will admit, I'm kind of glad that the other party members didn't have a "please leave" option in their dialogue.  I'd be too worried I'd click it on accident and lose them for good.  

[YavielsNight]

Bump, we want to kick more asses ( :

[sunnydxmen]

because everyone hates sera she is a nut as such you should be allowed to kick her out.

[Kantr]

You can make the others want to leave you.

[sunnydxmen]

there was a option for cole to leave ,also he will say your not helping people so well probably leave pretty much a warning.

[Shades of Night]

I was doing fine until my Inquisitor decided to talk to Vivienne and had a conversation where she'd moved furniture around and was basically deliberately disrespecting and insulting my Inquisitor (because apparently she didn't like the choices made). With the way she was acting then I would have been happy to kick her out. Why would my Inquisitor want to keep someone around who is acting like that? I mean she blatantly says that she's seeing how far she can push you. Yeah well I'd like to push her completely out of her cozy little corner of Skyhold and back to the courts of Orlais. You don't even get to do anything in retribution either like say 'Fine, if you're going to do this then I'm dumping all of your fancy furniture out in the wilderness. You can have fun going to fetch it. And no you can't further waste the time of any members of the Inquisition to do so.'

 

And for that matter, this should really count for anyone. You don't know what they're going to be like when they join, but once you've had them around a little bit they start to show their personalities like mentioned above. It seems to make perfect sense that the Inquisitor, being the head of the Inquisition can then make a more informed decision about whether it is actually worth keeping the person around.

[abearzi]

I was doing fine until my Inquisitor decided to talk to Vivienne and had a conversation where she'd moved furniture around and was basically deliberately disrespecting and insulting my Inquisitor (because apparently she didn't like the choices made). With the way she was acting then I would have been happy to kick her out. Why would my Inquisitor want to keep someone around who is acting like that? I mean she blatantly says that she's seeing how far she can push you. Yeah well I'd like to push her completely out of her cozy little corner of Skyhold and back to the courts of Orlais. You don't even get to do anything in retribution either like say 'Fine, if you're going to do this then I'm dumping all of your fancy furniture out in the wilderness. You can have fun going to fetch it. And no you can't further waste the time of any members of the Inquisition to do so.'

 

And for that matter, this should really count for anyone. You don't know what they're going to be like when they join, but once you've had them around a little bit they start to show their personalities like mentioned above. It seems to make perfect sense that the Inquisitor, being the head of the Inquisition can then make a more informed decision about whether it is actually worth keeping the person around.

 

Agreed. Vivienne seems reasonable and interested in helping when you meet her at the party. Sure, she might be a Nob' and a bit stuffy, but it seems like there is legitimate benefit to having her along. Then you get her to join and she never actually provides any resources (which she explicitly said were at the Inquisition's disposal), she acts like a complete **** to everyone at every turn, and is just as much dead weight as any other character. You can tell Sera she's bat-**** crazy, but you can't fire the Merc you literally hired, can't tell Viv to cram it and get out, can't tell the creepy ghost to go pull his shenanigans in some other castle, etc. Hell, even Cassandra isn't even crucial to the MQ after Haven when you get the lead, Varric isn't required since the Divine is dead anyway. None of the companions are needed to actually progress the MQ after Haven, so they should all be able to be thrown out if the player wants to.

[Sartoz]

This playthrough, Blackwall is nowhere to be seen. Leliana did mention something about a warden in the Hinterlands... but I never found him.... in this my 5th game.

 

Found him. I had to activate the quest.

 

Bug in the dialogue. I already completed some of what they were talking about. The script was written without checking if I went ahead, finished some quests, then came back to complete an old one. Not impressed with this sloppy programming.

[Grieving Natashina]

Am I the only one that, somehow, still has the option to boot Sera from the Inquistion even after her personal quests?  Her affection is high with me, especially after the rooftop talk.   I'm not going to use the option to kick her out, but is this a bug?

[Lord Bolton]

You can make the others want to leave you.

Yes, and right before that you can even punch them into the face. I saw that scene with Dorian. Oh god, poor guy.

 

 

Am I the only one that, somehow, still has the option to boot Sera from the Inquistion even after her personal quests?  Her affection is high with me, especially after the rooftop talk.   I'm not going to use the option to kick her out, but is this a bug?

 

Same here, and I have high approval. I think it's not a bug.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I was doing fine until my Inquisitor decided to talk to Vivienne and had a conversation where she'd moved furniture around and was basically deliberately disrespecting and insulting my Inquisitor (because apparently she didn't like the choices made). With the way she was acting then I would have been happy to kick her out. Why would my Inquisitor want to keep someone around who is acting like that? I mean she blatantly says that she's seeing how far she can push you. Yeah well I'd like to push her completely out of her cozy little corner of Skyhold and back to the courts of Orlais. You don't even get to do anything in retribution either like say 'Fine, if you're going to do this then I'm dumping all of your fancy furniture out in the wilderness. You can have fun going to fetch it. And no you can't further waste the time of any members of the Inquisition to do so.'

 

And for that matter, this should really count for anyone. You don't know what they're going to be like when they join, but once you've had them around a little bit they start to show their personalities like mentioned above. It seems to make perfect sense that the Inquisitor, being the head of the Inquisition can then make a more informed decision about whether it is actually worth keeping the person around.

Yup had this happen to me on my 2nd playthrough and imagine I'll get it again on my 3rd playthrough as she's already being a condescending beatch to my Dalish Mage Inquisitor in Haven after my choice at the end of 'In Hushed Whispers'.

 

In my 2nd playthrough some of my choices did grant approval from Vivienne and I did the operations that come from recruiting her, so most likely got approval from them too. Tempted on this playthrough to ignore those operations and look for making more choices she will disapprove of to see if I can get a scene where she leaves although I doubt it due to the scene mentioned where she basically claims she is doing stuff to see how far she can push me. Makes me feel wish I could respond "Here, let me show you how far I will push you!" before Inky pushes her over her balcony in Skyhold and if she somehow survives the fall, get the guards to bring her in for judgement and execute her.

 

Personally I like Vivienne's character from the perspective of liking diverse characters, but from an Inquisitor perspective I know how she would easily annoy a fair few of them once they got to know her better to the point of wanting an option to tell her to go back to her Duke in Orlais.

[harlekein]

I was confused as well. Why can I kick out only Sera?

 

To be honest, the only reason I forgave Blackwall is because he's the sickest tank in the game. I geared him up with the best heavy armor and tank gear. He's a maniac.

 

Maybe in my next playthough I'll play tank myself.

 

I strongly dislike Vivienne. She always insulting everyone and talking about Cassandra behind her back.

 

I didn't like Varric much in DA:2 or at the start of DA: I, but he has grown on me. The reason I don't use him is because his damage output sucks. His upgrades don't scale very well with the other rogue damage output.

 

I also like Iron Bull a lot, but even with a good two hander and full damage build any rogue is still outdamaging him. I guess he can be an offtank for dragons, but with Cassandra and Blackwall he's just not relevant for combat.

[Shiyume]

i seriously don't like Viviene mainly because she doesn't seem to be out for anything, but her own interest while she puts on a mask and plays the "game" with you and the rest of the inquisition. If she could obtain your marker/anchor by killing you i bet she would do it in a heart beat. Also, it doesn't help that she despises our adorable little Cole. Which remains so for the entirety of the game while everyone else comes around treating him like a little brother; who seems to be still learning about what's right/wrong and whatever else is to be learned of the mortal world.