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[Avejajed]

Yea...originally I wanted leliana to be the divine. then after that quest I was like, "****, I just made a lunatic be in charge of the chantry. We're all gonna die."

 

Yeah I got her as Divine too and I was like...."Oh."

[GT409]

I don't think that the "kill or spare the traitor" decision is the only thing that will unharden Leliana.

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It effects it, but you also have to tell her that pulling back her agents during the battle of Haven was the right thing to do, and to spare Sister Natalie. Both of these decisions are near the end of the game. After doing this, Leliana was acting more like how she was in Origins.

[Dave of Canada]

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Gaspard alone spells trouble for ferelden.

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If you negotiate the truce between Ferelden and Orlais, Gaspard sets his eyes and armies towards Tevinter instead.

[rpgfan321]

I didn't want to support Leliana and I said so in the game, but the game decided to choose her for me. I was like whut... but then I tried to stay neutral through the whole "choose the next Divine" thing. I still don't know if Leliana is the default choice or not. 

[Storvacker]

You can make Leliana unhardened and she have a more peaceful ending while still being just as progressive. Which makes Leliana the best choice in my eyes (Viva la free mages)

Unhardened she can't really hold on to her power tho.

[Precursor Meta]

There is no one good ending. It's all from the perspective of the player.

[Precursor Meta]

Yeah I got her as Divine too and I was like...."Oh."

When I started talking to her about being divine, I was like oh snap this B*tch is crazy.

[Chrys]

We have yet to see the full consequences of some actions, but according to the epilogue slides....

 

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Mages and Templar choices dont matter as the divine takes care of what happens to them.

 

 

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Mage and Templar choices do matter. For example, your account of Cass as Divine is one possible slide. If you get the mages as allies, then they will form a separate organization and oppose her new Circle and there's a lot of trouble.

 

There is a lot of variation in possible ending slides.

[Knight-Enchanter Lavellan]

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In regards to the choice of Devine as it relates to the best overall ending I'd have to say unhardened Leliana. She frees mages from circles, encourages dissenters towards unity peacefully and allows non-humans into the chantry clergy. If hardened she uses murder as a tool to force unity. Cassandra as Devine is akin to starting Thedas from pre-rebellion again essentially no progress made, and history loves to repeat itself.

[ASDF0716]

The other interesting thing I find with Leliana is that they foreshadow that she's at least CAPABLE of being driven to that point. 

 

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During the mage quest when you are teleported ahead in time a year and you "rescue" her from the prison cell- during the confrontation with Gereon Alexius when Leliana puts a knife to Felix's throat- I'm not sure what happens if you tell her to stand down, but, if you use it as a threat against Gereon and demand he gives you the amulet, he aquiences saying something like:  "yes!  Yes- anything you want!" and Leliana says: "I want the world back!" and slits his throat anyway.

 

At the time- not knowing what was going to happen with Leliana, I was like:  "Well, that was pretty dark for her..." but, passed it off as:  "meh- if I spent a year and a half getting beaten and tortued, I'd be pretty jaded, too..."

In retrospect, it does a good job of showing what she is capable of under the right pressure...

[Jaison1986]

I think it's all relative to players taste in the many political situations we face in this game. For me, this is my own idea of an ideal ending:

 

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Leliana becomes divine (she can be either hardened or unhardened) and Fiona opens her own independant circle of magi. Gaspard rules alone while both Celene and Briala are dead (while doing peace talks with Ferelden by war table missions) while the grey wardens rebuild to become an better order compared to their cold and indiferent brothers from Weisshaupt.