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[King Dragonlord]

Who does she think she is? 

 

In my playthrough she had the audacity to stand in front of my Elfquisitor and Solas and tell them she was the best qualified to carry the legacy of our people? 

 

I don't care how much louder the voices of the heavens would be in her head, that knowledge belongs to the elves and absolutely everything I know about her character up to this moment tells me this: 

 

She would endlessly torment my people with half truths, riddles and tautologies while jealously hoarding our knowledge from us. She claims to be so clever yet if she were she would know that no one would ever trust her because she has not earned it. 

 

Gah! Why wouldn't Solas take it? Spare me having to do it. His reaction confuses me most. He didn't want it for himself, but he said we should take it, but he said he didn't trust Morrigan yet when I took it he disapproved. He's normally so logical. 

[LobselVith8]

After a certain incident takes place, Morrigan rescinds her initial claim. She's actually content that you were the one to drink from the well. As for Solas, it makes sense once this incident has unfolded.

[WhatGoesHere]

solas disapproves, because the price to be paid is high. and it is collectable

 

i was actually more worried about what would happen to morrigan in that scene. with the way they were playing up the 'price', i didn't really want either of us to drink. i expected morrigan to fall on some kind of fade-sword or something immediately after (and she kind of does...)

 

that being said, i think the dialogue was a bit wonky for the decision point. cassandra didn't want me drinking from the well, but she disapproved when i let morrigan drink...come on now, cass pls q_q

[Chernaya]

Solas is upset If anyone drinks from the well, as far as I know. Morrigan has always been the one who seeks power so her reaction wasn't strange to me at all.

[Storvacker]

Morrigan makes it very clear why she is more qualified if you ask. Elfquisitor knows very little about actual Elven history - certain events can show you how little the Dalish actually know, especially in the

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Solas romance

. Morrigan knows so much about it and wants to preserve it.

 

The entire situation with Solas will make more sense once you finish the game, although I do agree it is a little weird that his comments don't match up with his approval rating.

[ryno113]

Makes sense once you finish the game, she knows a hell of a lot more about ancient elven culture that almost all the dalish and....... there are people that dislike Morrigan?!?!?

[schall_und_rauch]

Morrigan just doesn't realize how high the price is that she has to pay.

I found it very satisfying when she finds out.

 

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Nearly having taken away the one thing she loves the most and being indentured to the one person she tried all of her life to get free from was so damn infuriating for her. Payback is a witch!

[gothicshark]

Who does she think she is? 
 
In my playthrough she had the audacity to stand in front of my Elfquisitor and Solas and tell them she was the best qualified to carry the legacy of our people? 
 
I don't care how much louder the voices of the heavens would be in her head, that knowledge belongs to the elves and absolutely everything I know about her character up to this moment tells me this: 
 
She would endlessly torment my people with half truths, riddles and tautologies while jealously hoarding our knowledge from us. She claims to be so clever yet if she were she would know that no one would ever trust her because she has not earned it. 
 
Gah! Why wouldn't Solas take it? Spare me having to do it. His reaction confuses me most. He didn't want it for himself, but he said we should take it, but he said he didn't trust Morrigan yet when I took it he disapproved. He's normally so logical.

Finish the game and you will understand why Solas disproves. Honestly it is possibly one of the best written parts of a well written game.

[Moondoggie]

Morrigan has spent years researching this stuff. She knows about things far beyond the realms of any Dalish Keeper. The Inquisitor despite being Dalish is pretty dense on knowledge of even Eluvian. She believes in preserving ancient magic and can do a better job with that than you can. Morrigan also seeks as much knowledge as she can and has an insight into things that are happening and that will happen. Just let her do what she wants it's worth it in the end.

[t0mm06]

Shes the most qualified because history doesnt belong to one race but everyone, especially those who want to preserve it. And everything we've seen from Morrigan seem to point that preserving the old magic of the world is one of the most important things too her (something very few other in dragon age seem to care about)

[KCMeredith]

I'm a human warrior with zero knowledge of anything magical, she was more qualified in my first playthrough. Didn't even argue with her

[Urazz]

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Considering that Morrigan does know more about the Elves than most Dalish due to her research and her desire to preserve old magic, I think she is right in that she is the best suited.  Granted she was being a bit arrogant about it I think but she does pay for it when you discover what happened to Mythal and all that.

[King Dragonlord]

Makes sense once you finish the game, she knows a hell of a lot more about ancient elven culture that almost all the dalish and....... there are people that dislike Morrigan?!?!?

 

I don't care how much she knows, this knowledge absolutely indisputably belongs to the elves and absolutely nothing about Morrigan's history or personality suggests that she would share it all with the elves. She would flaunt the fact that she knows and they don't. She would dole out whispers for favors. She would manipulate. Its what she does. It is completely insane to trust her with the last connection to the legacy of Elvenkind. Its unconscionable. It would be like if Alistair suddenly declared that he wants to conquer Orlais and the empress were expected to seriously entertain the possibility of giving it to him. 

[King Dragonlord]

Shes the most qualified because history doesnt belong to one race but everyone, especially those who want to preserve it. And everything we've seen from Morrigan seem to point that preserving the old magic of the world is one of the most important things too her (something very few other in dragon age seem to care about)

 

Nothing we've seen from her suggests that because she never shoots completely straight with anybody. She tells people the part thats useful to them and hides her real agenda. Whether history belongs to its own race or not it sure doesn't belong to someone like her. 

 

In fact, her character makes her one of the least qualified. 

[LobselVith8]

I don't care how much she knows, this knowledge absolutely indisputably belongs to the elves and absolutely nothing about Morrigan's history or personality suggests that she would share it all with the elves. She would flaunt the fact that she knows and they don't. She would dole out whispers for favors. She would manipulate. Its what she does. It is completely insane to trust her with the last connection to the legacy of Elvenkind. Its unconscionable. It would be like if Alistair suddenly declared that he wants to conquer Orlais and the empress were expected to seriously entertain the possibility of giving it to him. 

 

Well, Morrigan does have some knowledge from perusing the Dalish tome that Ariane's clan had, but she seems to have the mindset about preserving things like this; it's why she wanted to preserve the soul of an Old God. I don't blame Morrigan for this, although my Lavellan Inquisitor ended up drinking from the well because it was part of the history of the People. Conceivably, mastering this could lead to the elven protagonist answering a lot of different questions and mysteries for the Dalish, given how the main character 'knew' what the temple of Mythal was for.

[King Dragonlord]

Morrigan has spent years researching this stuff. She knows about things far beyond the realms of any Dalish Keeper. The Inquisitor despite being Dalish is pretty dense on knowledge of even Eluvian. She believes in preserving ancient magic and can do a better job with that than you can. Morrigan also seeks as much knowledge as she can and has an insight into things that are happening and that will happen. Just let her do what she wants it's worth it in the end.

 

We have only her word to take that she really knows all that much. She's arrogant and completely unworthy of trust. I'd bet that the Dalish have recovered a lot more about their own frikkin history than one arrogant young woman. Just because she happens to have a couple of pieces of knowledge that the Elfquisitor doesn't, that doesn't mean she understands elves better. 

 

Look at the insight the Elfquisitor displays. He/she figures out the nature of the geas just by looking at it. That had completely slipped Morrigan's notice. 

[Storvacker]

We have only her word to take that she really knows all that much. She's arrogant and completely unworthy of trust. I'd bet that the Dalish have recovered a lot more about their own frikkin history than one arrogant young woman. Just because she happens to have a couple of pieces of knowledge that the Elfquisitor doesn't, that doesn't mean she understands elves better. 

 

Look at the insight the Elfquisitor displays. He/she figures out the nature of the geas just by looking at it. That had completely slipped Morrigan's notice. 

My non-Elf Inquisitor could tell that too, I don't think it's an Elf thing. And you're just wrong that the Dalish have found out more, as they're wrong about many of the things they uncover. Plus there's evidence Morrigan understands more than the Dalish in Witch Hunt. She was the only one who could understand the Eluvian book. Arianne and her clan knew nothing about it, and neither did Merill, Tamlen, and Mahariel's clan.

[SgtSteel91]

I may have drank from the Well but

 

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I like Morrigan (romanced her in Origins), liked how she softened up over the years, and didn't want her binded to Flemeth. Also, not drinking from the well prevents me from taming a dragon. I want to tame a dragon.

[RenAdaar]

Morrigan just doesn't realize how high the price is that she has to pay.

I found it very satisfying when she finds out.

 

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Nearly having taken away the one thing she loves the most and being indentured to the one person she tried all of her life to get free from was so damn infuriating for her. Payback is a witch!

the whole reason I didn't let her drink from the well. The whole time she was talking about how she doesn't care for the price. I was like morrigan you have a son damn it think of him. If anyone is going to get a crazy ass curse or whatever placed on them its not going to be the person with a child.  

[King Dragonlord]

My non-Elf Inquisitor could tell that too, I don't think it's an Elf thing. And you're just wrong that the Dalish have found out more, as they're wrong about many of the things they uncover. Plus there's evidence Morrigan understands more than the Dalish in Witch Hunt. She was the only one who could understand the Eluvian book. Arianne and her clan knew nothing about it, and neither did Merill, Tamlen, and Mahariel's clan.

 

Thats one clan. But I simply won't believe that Morrigan could somehow know more about Elvish history than an entire confederation of tribes who's chief purpose is reclaiming elvish history. 

 

And if a non elf inquisitor can tell too, well that just makes it that much clearer. She can't be all that clever is even a non elf figured that out before she did. 

[King Dragonlord]

the whole reason I didn't let her drink from the well. The whole time she was talking about how she doesn't care for the price. I was like morrigan you have a son damn it think of him. If anyone is going to get a crazy ass curse or whatever placed on them its not going to be the person with a child.  

 

Well, its one child vs an entire organization that the world depends on.

[herkles]

I am not sure what my dalish mage would do, as I have yet to get that far.

[Storvacker]

Thats one clan. But I simply won't believe that Morrigan could somehow know more about Elvish history than an entire confederation of tribes who's chief purpose is reclaiming elvish history. 

 

And if a non elf inquisitor can tell too, well that just makes it that much clearer. She can't be all that clever is even a non elf figured that out before she did. 

She didn't see it b/c she cared about the power + knowledge more than the price. Please though play the last scene of the Solas romance and then tell me the Dalish accurately keep their history.

The elves in the temple make it very clear the elves now know nothing true of their history. They're even incorrect as to how their civilization fell.

 

Plus Morrigan has been in the Eluvian's dimension, I'm sure she found out tons there.

 

Game evidence is against you here.

[King Dragonlord]

She didn't see it b/c she cared about the power + knowledge more than the price. Please though play the last scene of the Solas romance and then tell me the Dalish accurately keep their history.

The elves in the temple make it very clear the elves now know nothing true of their history. They're even incorrect as to how their civilization fell.

 

Plus Morrigan has been in the Eluvian's dimension, I'm sure she found out tons there.

 

Game evidence is against you here.

 

Oh I know they don't have it all right but Morrigan made similar off-base assumptions (I just got through the revelations about Flemeth). They're all gleaning what they can from scraps. And do you really think Morrigan is the only one? Merrill worked on an Eluvian for years, her Keeper seemed to know more still. And thats just one of the dozens of Elf clans. Consider Zathrian who was able to live several centuries without having to possess his children, outdoing Flemeth at least in that one area. Sure it was tied to a curse he put on some humans but look at what all that curse did. Elves are not short on knowledge. Game evidence is against you. 

 

Side Note: It was worth playing three games to hear Morrigan say "I was wrong" and "I don't know" in this one. And that Flemeth scene does adjust my opinion of her a bit. Being willing to risk possession for her son is the first truly noble thing I've seen her do.