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[Digger1967]

I found it strange that she was willing to accept the price even after my mage Inquisitor told her the well would put a geas on her controlled by the collective consciousness of the priests who put their minds into the well. She even notices that the well feels hungry.

I think the only type of person who would drink from the well without misgivings was an elf with a great deal of faith in Mythal.

I wonder: is it possible to make it so that nobody drinks from the well?

 

Not sure if having Iron Bull take a whiz in it is an option - have to check I guess.. lol

[MisterJB]

Its leagues more important than the purposes of one young woman acting unilaterally in a way that would deny an entire race. And this isn't pride anyway, this is recovering even a precious little of all that has been taken from them. I can't believe you'd dismiss that as mere pride. 

You're seeking the Well of Sorrows not to recover its knowledge for the sake of the elves but to use its power to defeat Corypheus.

Whit that in mind, Morrigan is the safest choice.

[TEWR]

The writer in me always wants to give it to Morrigan. The irony and twist of fate is just too delicious.

 

The roleplayer in me wants my Cadash to have it because it would be important to his king's goals.

 

The headcanoner in me says "**** it, Cadash and Morrigan and Lavellan and Surana and Merrill all drink from it".

[LOLandStuff]

The headcanoner in me says "**** it, Cadash and Morrigan and Lavellan and Surana all drink from it".

 

They should fight to the death for it...with murder knives!

[TEWR]

They should fight to the death for it...with murder knives!

 

I prefer they use dire bunnies.

[Ashagar]

The explanation didn't make me any happier. Suddenly she's Mythal. How much you wanna bet Bioware had no idea that was going to be the case when they first created her. 

 

Given they had that stone seer foretold what Corypheus was going to do back in witch-hunt I'd say they knew what they were doing,

 

of course interestingly enough they also gave the some idea of the maker being real in the setting in the mage origin as  she foretells the maker return.

[leaguer of one]

1. Solas tells not to ask him to drink form the well of sorrows. He makes it a point NOT to ask him again.

 

2. You really want to be a slave to an elf goddess for your entire life?

[leaguer of one]

Having a shem be more knowledgeable about Elvhen lore than the average Dalish is another way Bioware gets their kicks out of trolling the elves.

But it's true...Look who raises her.

[Aimi]

Having a shem be more knowledgeable about Elvhen lore than the average Dalish is another way Bioware gets their kicks out of trolling the elves.

She's a subject-matter expert. That is kind of how it works.

I know more about British history than the average Britisher, I know more about Russian history than the average Russian, I know more about Chinese history than the average Chinese, and I currently have a job that involves lecturing average American undergraduates on American history. I am not native to any of those countries. I trust that you don't consider this to be 'trolling' as well?

[Cecilia]

That's just like your opinion...man, I disagree, I don't think the Dalish have any rights when it comes to the well. It's up for grabs. As in, it no longer belongs to them. Sure their ancestors built it but in a long forgotten age, that the Dalish have forgotten and misunderstood. So, no Op. I think you are wrong and the Dalish of today have no inherent claim on it.

 

I don't really agree with this - simply because someone has deeper knowledge of a culture doesn't mean one obtains ownership over that cultural heritage. It would be akin to saying since the British Royal Museum may have studied Chinese porcelain more deeply, it has a right to retain objects it forcibly stole/looted from China during the the European invasion that destroyed Yuanmingyuan. (Because Morrigan really does, in a sense, try to forcibly obtain the Well of Sorrows) I think it's important to understand that culture and knowledge, while they can be intertwined, have to be treated with differing attitudes - while knowledge should be open, culture is something for which there are certain limitations of ownership (see: cultural appropriation). 

 

Also the ancient elves who built that well are there - Abelas - and they explicitly state that the Inquisitor, not Morrigan, is the one that they deem worthy of drinking from the Well. 

[Digger1967]

You really want to be a slave to an elf goddess for your entire life?

If such were the case I wouldn't have gotten the divorce.

[KaiserShep]

She's a subject-matter expert. That is kind of how it works.

I know more about British history than the average Britisher, I know more about Russian history than the average Russian, I know more about Chinese history than the average Chinese, and I currently have a job that involves lecturing average American undergraduates on American history. I am not native to any of those countries. I trust that you don't consider this to be 'trolling' as well?

 

You..you....SHEMLEN!

[dragonflight288]

I prefer they use dire bunnies.

 

And they must fight with swords of truthyness!

[Riot Inducer]

Oh yes Morrigan is the safest choice overall, and it's not really like the Dalish have any real claim on it. That said if you are a Dalish elf who cares deeply about what the Dalish stand for the well represents a holy grail of elven knowledge, even if you can't comprehend it all right away you can learn (iirc you can even suggest as much to Morrigan). Not really sure why anyone other than a Dalish would choose to damn the consequences and take it themselves though. 

[LOLandStuff]

She's a subject-matter expert. That is kind of how it works.

I know more about British history than the average Britisher, I know more about Russian history than the average Russian, I know more about Chinese history than the average Chinese, and I currently have a job that involves lecturing average American undergraduates on American history. I am not native to any of those countries. I trust that you don't consider this to be 'trolling' as well?

 

You're making sense. Stop making sense.

[TEWR]

 

 

2. You really want to be a slave to an elf goddess for your entire life?

 

Kinky.

[Maria13]

Makes sense once you finish the game, she knows a hell of a lot more about ancient elven culture that almost all the dalish and....... there are people that dislike Morrigan?!?!?

 

Yep. I've always disliked the arrogant little woman.

[javeart]

Having a shem be more knowledgeable about Elvhen lore than the average Dalish is another way Bioware gets their kicks out of trolling the elves.

 

I thinks it's terribly realistic: oppressed minorities are often deprived of the means to access and study their own history and culture

 

 

 

She's a subject-matter expert. That is kind of how it works.

I know more about British history than the average Britisher, I know more about Russian history than the average Russian, I know more about Chinese history than the average Chinese, and I currently have a job that involves lecturing average American undergraduates on American history. I am not native to any of those countries. I trust that you don't consider this to be 'trolling' as well?

 

I don't think dalish could be considered average elves though, in terms of caring for their lore and history, at least, particularly if you're your clan's first

[Colonelkillabee]

She's a subject-matter expert. That is kind of how it works.

I know more about British history than the average Britisher, I know more about Russian history than the average Russian, I know more about Chinese history than the average Chinese, and I currently have a job that involves lecturing average American undergraduates on American history. I am not native to any of those countries. I trust that you don't consider this to be 'trolling' as well?

This would work if this was a world where elven knowledge was something one could learn simply by wanting to, but the elves aren't exactly forthcoming with their culture.

[In Exile]

I find Solas' attitude to be less than acceptable.

He gets angry when the Inquisitor drinks from the Well, but at NO point does he present a clear, rational, 'these are the consequences and this is why you shouldn't' sort of argument. Just a patronizing 'trust me, I know what's best for you.'

Really? REALLY? YOU, Solas, YOU know what's best? Considering YOUR history and knowledge of history and the Fade? And you won't come clean and give an elven Inquisitor a clear, concise, HONEST reason not to?

He's using reverse psychology on Morrigan. He's taunting her to drink from the well. He's angry at the end it didn't work out.

[TheJediSaint]

He's using reverse psychology on Morrigan. He's taunting her to drink from the well. He's angry at the end it didn't work out.

It's almost as if Solas is actually a villain.