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[Rainbow Wyvern]

I left Stroud behind. Pretty easy choice. Guy with weird mustache or my beloved former protagonist? Although I did end up sort of liking Stroud. Oh well.

[NRieh]

 

Warden-Mustache of Orlais is basically Riordan with a mustache.

Nope. Unlike this Orlais man, Riordan was indeed the only Warden in Ferelden experienced enough to do anything about the matter. He was not interchangeable, and he did what he was sworn to - to kill an Archdemon and stop the blight (or die trying). Even among those Wardens on the walls were some that listened, and I'm pretty sure that some of them were old and mature enough to take his place. 

[Br3admax]

I believe my associate was talking about the voice actor. Tongue in cheek humor and all that. 

[Snook]

I believe my associate was talking about the voice actor. Tongue in cheek humor and all that.

Pretty much, yeah...

[dekarserverbot]

easiest choice ever: Stroud

[RedWulfi]

His card went red for me, but after i completed his friendship it changed to a happy Varric playing wicked grace

And he wasn't pissed at me. He was sad and I gave him a hug.

[daveliam]

i guess hawke and  your varric wasnt friends?

if so you just lost varric if you leave behind hawke

 

No I didn't.  Hawke and Varric were besties, but I didn't lose Varric when I left Hawke behind.  He was pissed (Varric greatly disapproves) and visibly did a 'smh' at me, but he didn't leave me and after completing Seeing Red and the

Spoiler

Bianca

quest, he was back to being buddies with my Inquisitor too.  I got the "Varric's sitting around relaxed with his feet up on the table" tarot card with him. 

[wcholcombe]

I left Hawke behind.  At least a portion of this mess can be laid at his feet. 

 

Whereas giving the Wardens some actual leadership serves a much better purpose.  Hawke is just some rogue adventurer/outlaw on his/her own. Loghain/Stroud has value.

 

I am also fully expecting there to be a rescue mission in the expansion of some kind.  The choice while great storytelling doesn't necessarily serve a purpose except to setup a future event.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Sacrificed Stroud.

 

Was an easy choice for me.

[Dave of Canada]

Who is Hawke in the large scheme of things? The Champion of Kirkwall, a city-state renown for it's failure. Aside from this, all he is to the Inquisition is Varric's friend who happens to know Stroud/Loghain/Alistair. I don't gain anything by letting him live.

 

Sacrificing Hawke--while it hurts because I liked my Hawke--means little to the Inquisition while sacrificing the only non-insane Senior Warden means a lot, exile or not.

 

I'd also like to point out the terminology used in the choice. Every other decision in the game clearly states "Leave X to die." while this one introduces the word "likely".

[daveliam]

I'd also like to point out the terminology used in the choice. Every other decision in the game clearly states "Leave X to die." while this one introduces the word "likely".

 

Exactly.  I noticed this cop-out loophole wording right away.  The reality is that they will find a way to bring back Alistair, Loghain, Hawke, or Stroud if they want them in the story.  The "likely" gave them the perfect, "Well we did say likely about their off-screen death" excuse. 

[Xilizhra]

Exactly.  I noticed this cop-out loophole wording right away.  The reality is that they will find a way to bring back Alistair, Loghain, Hawke, or Stroud if they want them in the story.  The "likely" gave them the perfect, "Well we did say likely about their off-screen death" excuse. 

All for the best, after the Leliana mess.

[daveliam]

All for the best, after the Leliana mess.

 

 

Yeah, I'd rather they not retcon a character back to life.  But I'd much rather they recognize the options that they lay out for people and respect those choices.  If they gave an option for Leliana to be dead, then she should be dead in the games of those who chose to kill her.  Either give her role to a different character or cut that plot, in my opinion. 

The issue with the Hawke in the Fade choice is that it has the makings of a giant momentous decision, but then they place that one word (likely), which takes away all of the gravitas that the decision could have.  Now I don't have to worry about choosing to sacrifice Hawke because I feel reasonably comfortable saying that s/he'll find a way out of the Fade at some point.  It creates an 'easy choice' disguised as a difficult one. 

[Zatche]

I actually sacrificed Alistair. Dun dun dun.

[Mr.House]

Pfft, if it was between Stroud or Alistair it woulds not even be a choice. It's Loghain or Hawke that kicked me right in the daddy bags.

[Tootles FTW]

Hawke, a character I spent over 200 hours with, or Stroud...an unknown Grey Warden who ditched helping me in DA2 and whose DAI dialogue glitches my game?  GEE, THE ANGST OF THIS DECISION. 

[aku08]

It wasn't hard for me. I sacrificed Stroud. The hero of ferelden and alistair were ROOKIES when they managed to save everybody from the blight. And now I'm supposed to feel conflicted about this choice because Stroud's a high ranking warden? That he's supposed to be the guy to build the wardens back again? Not to mention I got a veteran warden in my party already. Bye Stroud.

[Incanus]

I too choose Stroud because it made more sense in that moment. Stroud argument: Redeem the actions of the wardens. Hawke: I want to kill Cory. My thoughts: Good you can fight Cory and for that to happen you shouldn´t stay to fight a spider. Only to find out that he never showed up.

 

But that word "likely" really was strange for me. As if the game was saying if you should leave Hawke you cannot complain later if he  mysteriously appears again.

[JosieJ]

 

Worst thing about this 'choice' is that it's a PLAYER who has to make it. Character-wise the Inquisitor has little reasons to care about any of potential candidates, but player does (surprise?..), and the toughest combo must be Hawke\Alistair-Warden (romanced).  

 

 

I had to choose between Alistair and Hawke- it was awful. I left Hawke behind because her life with Anders sounded so miserable. I still feel really bad about it,

 

This was my situation: Warden Alistair still happily in love with Warden-Commander Amell and Mage!Hawke still somewhat unhappily with Anders.  Since I actually enjoyed DA2, and Alistair was my favorite DA:O companion, it was a really tough choice, but I left Hawke behind.  I do think Alistair and my Warden-Commander could do a better job rebuilding the Wardens, and Hawke's life did sound like it kinda sucked, but at the time, the decision hinged solely on "which beloved character's death will give me, the player, less heartache."  I think it would have been even harder had my Hawke looked just like she did in DA2, but there was enough of a difference after I remade her that I wasn't quite as emotionally invested.

 

Fortunately, in all the other world-states I intend to use, Alistair's the king, either jointly or singly, so Stroud's staying behind in all other cases!

[Potatoespotate]

I chose to sacrifice Hawke. Just because I hadn't done it in my previous playthroughs. Cassandra was sad, and Varric was sad, and I was sad. Bad day

[Nightdragon8]

Well, I really hope you spared the Architect in that case because the ending if you exile the Wardens has some unfortunate implications for the next blight.

And this is the shortcomings of the game.

 

I would have exiled them until the threat was over. And then allowed supervised return, and after 100 years of that they are allowed to go back to what they where.

 

Plus the next blight is probably over 100-200 years away.

[garrusfan1]

my Varric's card is red too even though I choose Stoud to stay behind. a bug?

you have to do his personal quest for it to change. It is a quickie but a goodie

[garrusfan1]

Stroud always bites the dust. Kinda mad because alistar will always have to be king in dragons keep since I can't bring myself to choose between him and hawk

[BubbleDncr]

**** Stroud, I hardly know him. That was the easiest choice I ever had in a Bioware game.

[Undead Han]

You chose Stroud..... over Hawke? A redshirt or your precious PC and you choose the redshirt? I would think that choice would be easy. It's much harder when the choices are Alistair/Loghain two beloved former companions and Hawke, not  Hawke and random warden #6.

 

I didn't care that Hawke was a former player character.

 

I had the Inquisitor choose Stroud because he was a Senior Warden on borrowed time anyway. By that point the Inquisitor knows about the Calling, and out of the two Hawke potentially has a lot more life left. Also it gave the Wardens a chance at redemption after Adamant. If the choice had been between the Hero of Ferelden and Hawke, I would have left the Hero of Ferelden behind for similar reasons even though I like that character much more than I do Hawke.