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[Logan_Earnest]

After putting in about sixty hours, killing most of the dragons, and completing most of the content, I've come to an incredibly bummerific conclusion; I shouldn't have made a Qunari.

 

Right off the bat, they're at a disadvantage; while Elves get 25% Ranged Resist, Dwarves get 25% Magic Resist, Qunari only get 10% Melee Resist.  I thought "This is probably because most of the enemies are melee-based and giving them 25% Resist would be too much". This is true...but only for the beginning of the game when half of your opponents are wolves, mabari, and bears. It doesn't take long before every group has at least two archers and a mage.

 

Another obvious difference is the Helmets vs Vitaar.  I can understand why helmets would have greater variety as it has three races that use them, but the Vitaar are also simply inferior. They don't have nearly has much armor (understandable), and their stats don't make up for it, either. I've also never seen a single purple-quality Vitaar in the game, and I'm currently level 21. I believe I've seen...five purple-quality helmets?

 

I've also seen human-exclusive, elf-exclusive, and dwarf-exclusive Armor, but none of the Qunari.

 

I was hoping I just randomly haven't come across any of these great Qunari items, but after sixty hours I severely doubt that. This is definitely a topic I'd like to be proven wrong about, though.

[sinosleep]

From what I understand the tool tip is wrong if you open up your attributes screen it shows 25% resistance

[MadDemiurg]

Depends on your class. Ironically qunari are the worst tanks and the best dps. Vitaar gives you damage, not armor. This is added to your base damage, so all multipliers apply. Especially great for mages who do not care about armor and say 17 dmg (not even the highest level vitaar) is a lot when the best staff is probably about 70-80. Lack of unique qunari items is disappointing though. Resistance is also 25% regardless of what the tooltip says but it's rather irrelevant. 

 

To summarize: If you're a rogue (preferably melee) or a mage you're good. Qunari warrior is a questionable choice.

[Ibn_Shisha]

Depends on your class. Ironically qunari are the worst tanks and the best dps. Vitaar gives you damage, not armor. This is added to your base damage, so all multipliers apply. Especially great for mages who do not care about armor and say 17 dmg (not even the highest level vitaar) is a lot when the best staff is probably about 70-80. Lack of unique qunari items is disappointing though. Resistance is also 25% regardless of what the tooltip says but it's rather irrelevant. 

 

To summarize: If you're a rogue (preferably melee) or a mage you're good. Qunari warrior is a questionable choice.

I beg to differ.  My 2H Reaver qunari gives Cole a run for the money in DPS.

[steamcamel]

Never much cared for it, since I've never had any interest in qunari or wanted to play as one. It's nice, however, that they gave people the option to play as one.

But the lack of armor variety extends beyond qunari. There's just too much recycled and bland-looking armor skin all across the board. Compelling gear has never been Dragon Age's strength.

[Nefla]

Does your Qunari inquisitor have his or her jaw and chin clip severely through the collar of the skyhold outfit and look like his head is glued directly to his shoulders with no neck in it as well? (mine looks normal in his armor)

[Draninus]

Depends on your class. Ironically qunari are the worst tanks and the best dps. Vitaar gives you damage, not armor. This is added to your base damage, so all multipliers apply. Especially great for mages who do not care about armor and say 17 dmg (not even the highest level vitaar) is a lot when the best staff is probably about 70-80. Lack of unique qunari items is disappointing though. Resistance is also 25% regardless of what the tooltip says but it's rather irrelevant. 

 

To summarize: If you're a rogue (preferably melee) or a mage you're good. Qunari warrior is a questionable choice.

 

For these reasons I think I'll roll a Qunari when I do a rogue character.

[mutantspicy]

Playing a female qunari dual wield she's a beast! Just saying.

[Geth Supremacy]

Vinek kathas!

[Geth Supremacy]

I don't think it works in their favor either. The fun of the 2hander and/or DPS warrior is wading into battle first (rather than worrying about strategizing like a rogue.. where you're better off controlling your warrior first). This means the warrior has to tank somewhat at first, until your real tank grabs the aggro. You should be resilient enough to take some beatings, but never actively play the tank role. A "tank if you have to" kind of thing. But if you can't even do that well, it sucks.

 

 

Funnily, the Arishok was technically a Rogue in DA2. Maybe that's their "true" class. Heh

 

A true Qunari would not be a rogue, but a Qunari rogue should be dual wielding 1 handed swords.

 

A TRUE Qunari would be a warrior dual wielding 2 handed weapons and have a rage state similar of Krogan in ME3.  Should also be able to tear the arms off of enemies and break anyone's neck who do not submit to the glory that is the Qun!

 

Bioware just doesn't like them that much so they're neutered.  I thought for sure I would be going to Par Vollen and visting "Sten"............

[Jaron Oberyn]

Never much cared for it, since I've never had any interest in qunari or wanted to play as one. It's nice, however, that they gave people the option to play as one.

But the lack of armor variety extends beyond qunari. There's just too much recycled and bland-looking armor skin all across the board. Compelling gear has never been Dragon Age's strength.

 

Bioware in general for that matter. They always give NPCs the best outfits, but the player gets stuck with armor that the character artists children drew for them. Have you seen SWTOR? Surprisingly ME3 was heading in the right direction, but then they took a hard turn. 

 

As for Qunari being the worst option. I loved the race ever since DA2, but when my Qunari sat in the skyhold throne so awkwardly, looking as if he had just stuffed himself on 30 turkeys with the way his gut stuck out, I knew I probably wasn't going to reroll another. 

[Geth Supremacy]

I think they are quite Rogue-ish as a culture actually. They are technically sophisticated and have advanced machinery and explosives. They also seem to have their eyes everywhere in DA2 -- you can't keep a secret from the Arishok. And they relying on drugs and mental techniques to make people compliant. They don't even like to kill their enemies -- but use them for other means. They seem more clever than brute force.

 

I don't view them as ragers much either. That's a dwarven thing to me. Qunari seem to have a lot of self-control. 

I will absolutely agree they do have a lot of rogue-ish parts in their culture. A very smart people.

 

Using brute force doesn't make you dumb.  They are absolute beasts and utilizing what is at hand is good. Brute force has its place.  Tevinter knows that

 

I don't agree with them not being ragers though.  Sten in DAO?  What he did after losing his sword?  The Arishok in DA2?  Ragers and alpha males for real.  They do have a lot of self control, but its still there...under the surface.  Qunari are where its at!

[dekarserverbot]

 

They seem more clever than brute force.

 

 

Maybe because they are slightly based on Aztec culture. Their focus on  education and perfect castes seems carbon copied from those old ways, however they are more kind with their punishments (no pincushion chilly nose torture for example)

[Jill Sheperd]

why they didn't put armor like this (and i repeat WHY ç_ç)

 

 

 

[Epigram]

I think it's clear that the Qunari Inquisitor was added late in the development of Inquisition as an afterthought and not given the same attention as the other races, possibly in an attempt to match Skyrim's selection of races. Race selection kind of feels that way in general, to be honest.

 

Don't get me wrong i'm glad we actaully get to choose this time around, but remember the detailed prologue quests from Origin? They all wound up in Ostagar the same way, just like the Inquisitor could've wound up at the conclave the same way after their own little race-specific prologue.

 

Oh well, can't have your cake and eat it too I suppose.

[Fredward]

Dunno from a gameplay perspective since I play on normal and I get through combat just fine. I like their backstory though, the reactions and etc. What I don't like is that they're really not made for a lot of the cinematics.

[sinosleep]

I think people really need to understand that there is a world of difference between suboptimal and unviable. Qunari may not be the optimal tank class, butthey are in no way shape or form unviable. I have a playthrough with a Qunari tank inquisitor and an elf mage playthrough where Iron Bull is my tank cause I wanted an all outsider party (solas, sera, bull, and my elf mage) and they're both trucking along just fine.

 

I had many very similar debates back on the ME 2 forums with regards to engineers. They have never been optimal in that series, but they're certainly perfectly viable and I've got the vids to prove it. I will never understand why people put so much stock into beating an encounter in 5 minutes using 1 potion as blackwall if I can do the same encounter in 5:30 using 2 with iron bull. You make it the next supply cache with 4 potions to spare and I make with 2, if we both get to the supply cache with more than 0 potions does it ACTUALLY matter that mine was a suboptimal run?

 

NO SIR, not even a little bit.

[sinosleep]

It's depends on the difficulty too. Almost anything under Nightmare is easy enough. You can get away playing like crap on Normal. Even Hard can be easy at times...but I think the issues would start here.

At this time in the games release people were saying the same thing about vanguard on insanity in mass effect 2, then kronner, Gatsby, sabre San Diego, and I released a bunch of vids on how to crush insanity with the vanguard. The class actually wound up being the fastest way to storm through insanity difficulty once we figured out how ludicrously powerful An ability that would recharge your shields and zoom you across the map as far as you could target every 4 seconds could be.

It's way too early for all the doom and gloom.

[Logan_Earnest]

Last night I killed off all of the Dragons and beat the game. I got several more Dwarf, Elf, and Human-only items, both Helmets and Armor.

 

My party companions are thrilled at all of the great stuff they get to wear now.  No purple quality Vitaars or Qunari-exlcusive armor in sight.

 

Hopefully one of the expansions includes some love for the Qunari.

[Geth Supremacy]

Last night I killed off all of the Dragons and beat the game. I got several more Dwarf, Elf, and Human-only items, both Helmets and Armor.

 

My party companions are thrilled at all of the great stuff they get to wear now.  No purple quality Vitaars or Qunari-exlcusive armor in sight.

 

Hopefully one of the expansions includes some love for the Qunari.

Being honest.....I highly doubt it.  The fact we can even PLAY Qunari is really awesome and I am extremely happy about it, but when I saw that your hair type was tied to what horns you chose I knew EXACTLY what to expect when it came to all things "Qunari" in the game.  And I was right.

 

I did honestly expect to be able to visit Seheron or Par Vollen....especially just be able to interact with "Sten" . wrong.