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[wwurst]

It seems that most of your party memebrs hate it when you do good deeds, aside from Alister, and the dog, which doesnt sem to care either way. But Morigan is constantly ****ing about my choices, and now Sten is too. The trouble is most games like this are built around "doing the right thing," but at this rate im afraid Im goign to drive off my helpers. Morigan is already at -29 and hostile. I lost 20 points just asking her why she was in our group, thinking it would lead to bonus dialogue options. Shes a real pain in the ass.
Ive got a rogue and I dont really want to have the cleric/rogue in my party from Lothering..not to mention I think the game is too hard to have mostly dps'ers int he party.

[truestatic]

Give her jewelery? I don't know, I've been mostly 'doing the right thing,' and though I do frequently get negative points with her, I've managed to keep her at like... +30?

[Twitchmonkey]

Yeah, it's all well and good to only care about yourself, but I hate it when Morrigan protests choices that benefit our group. There's a part where you have to help someone to get something which is going to make our lives much easier, but she chastises me because she'd prefer to be difficult rather than do things which are going to benefit us. Maybe that's just her character, but it wasn't the initial impression I got, and it just makes her kind of an annoyance.



As for Sten, well, I can't figure him out at all, but at least he made his temperament known from the start.

[Gelmirthebloody]

sounds like my wife.

[Grengrad]

Leliana, Alistair, Dog, and Wynne are all nice, if you want a nice people party.

[SirXeno]

personally i regret getting Sten, morrigan can be handled stens just an ass

[SageGaspar]

Twitchmonkey wrote...

Yeah, it's all well and good to only care about yourself, but I hate it when Morrigan protests choices that benefit our group. There's a part where you have to help someone to get something which is going to make our lives much easier, but she chastises me because she'd prefer to be difficult rather than do things which are going to benefit us. Maybe that's just her character, but it wasn't the initial impression I got, and it just makes her kind of an annoyance.

That is my one problem with Morrigan, it's constantly "Why are we wasting our time helping _____ when we have so much else to do?" when the thing we're doing is actively forwarding our mission. I know a lot of people in real life who are contrary for its own sake though and Morrigan actually has a bit of an excuse, having been almost completely alone save for her antagonistic witch-"mother". Sten also docks me points a lot, but he's got a completely alien perspective on everything and it's pretty funny.

As to the "What are you still doing here?" line of conversation you can ask Morrigan, that prompt sends up some red flags just looking at the question. As would probably happen in real life you get docked faction no matter how you end that conversation. Some questions are better left unasked

[Twitchmonkey]

SageGaspar wrote...

That is my one problem with Morrigan, it's constantly "Why are we wasting our time helping _____ when we have so much else to do?" when the thing we're doing is actively forwarding our mission. I know a lot of people in real life who are contrary for its own sake though and Morrigan actually has a bit of an excuse, having been almost completely alone save for her antagonistic witch-"mother". Sten also docks me points a lot, but he's got a completely alien perspective on everything and it's pretty funny.

As to the "What are you still doing here?" line of conversation you can ask Morrigan, that prompt sends up some red flags just looking at the question. As would probably happen in real life you get docked faction no matter how you end that conversation. Some questions are better left unasked

Yes, it isn't the best start to a conversation, but it could be a legitimate query as to why she stays with you. Strangely, the line of conversation that begins essentially with "You're frigid wench, you know that?" doesn't necessarily have any negative impact on your relationship. That seemed a little strange.

[Nudo Judo]

I've found Sten to be the most difficult.  And that makes him fun.  I've gotten his approval a few times by doing good deeds, both in Redcliffe.  One did require me to persuade him.  I still haven't figured him out, though.  I gained +2 approval by telling the elf in Redcliffe's tavern that he should fight during the battle to pay back for what he did.  Sten thought that was "fitting".  Obviously, he's big on justice, but beyond that he's pretty murky.

Morrigan's easier.  Flemeth has given her self-esteem issues, and she needs to be propped up now and then.  But because she doesn't seem to value herself that much, she's quick to devalue everyone else, which is what makes her cold.   I think.

Those two have been the most difficult for me.  Everyone else has been pretty easy.  And my theories are subject to change.

[wwurst]

shes definitely contrary in her personality, but as far as the negative question line, i didnt really have a choice I had not tried. It went from, "Id like to ask you a personal question" (in camp), to why are you still with us. (honestly thinking id score points by getting an option to butter her up). Like, You are a valuable member of the group Morigan..But it was not to be. From now on I just need to quick save before every conversation I think will impact negatively.

I think Im only going to keep Sten until I get Shale. I mean, lets be honest, Sten is a freebee, but I actually paid for shale!

[Bedlam66]

I don't know what you guys are doing wrong. Morrigan, Shale and The Dog all Love me. I've even gotten Morrigan up to +92 so far

[Twitchmonkey]

Bedlam66 wrote...

I don't know what you guys are doing wrong. Morrigan, Shale and The Dog all Love me. I've even gotten Morrigan up to +92 so far

Well, the war dog isn't exactly tough, just tell him he's a good boy and rub his belly, quite like a real dog I suppose.

For the others, so long as you know what they want to hear when you speak to them, it isn't so hard to buter them up that way, I just find Morrigan's response to me doing anything helpful, regardless of its effect on our ability to complete our goals a little off-putting.

[wwurst]

Im sure that has more to do with time spent with her/them. My issues are just past Lothering. It's funny, the only reason I keep Morigan around is because of an unhealthy longing for Claudia Black. lol.

[Bedlam66]

Well that and Her Shape-shifting Forms get Pretty Badass at Master.

[wwurst]

I havent used her spider form which is all she has right now, but wouldnt that just be another melee-er, I already have those, I need her spells to balance it out. Im not sure Id ever use her shape shifting on that basis alone.

[S.Hall]

wwurst wrote...

Im sure that has more to do with time spent with her/them. My issues are just past Lothering. It's funny, the only reason I keep Morigan around is because of an unhealthy longing for Claudia Black. lol.

You and me both. I have no choice but to keep Claudia Black in my group, despite everything.
Oh, Claudia ... 

[SageGaspar]

wwurst wrote...

I havent used her spider form which is all she has right now, but wouldnt that just be another melee-er, I already have those, I need her spells to balance it out. Im not sure Id ever use her shape shifting on that basis alone.

Spider form has web which is a handy way to lock someone down for a bit, you can start off as a spider and instantly poof back into Morrigan after webbing or whatever. Sometimes when she's low on mana and I don't want to pop a potion I'll swap her into spider form for a quick web and poison.

[musicalfrog7]

**Redcliffe Spoilers**















Morrigan seems to like it a lot if you let Jowan out of the castle cell and if you try to convince Connor's mother to let Jowan perform the blood ritual with her as a sacrifice.

















**End Spoilers*

[Wissenschaft]

Lol, you pick the jerks in the game and then are shocked when they are....well jerks.