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Aunt Mellie might not consider herself a gamer nor even think about it but the gaming industry is a business and casual social games are the biggest boon to gaming money wise. I'm thinking it doesn't matter whether you self identify as a gamer. You either game or you do not. What you are really trying to ask perhaps is what the statistics bear out for core gamers and you're assuming only core gamers matter, I think.
So much this. Wish I could like it more.
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I can't deny that a lot of gamers are females (of all ages), because of those casual and mobile titles. I'm not sure how to apply what it means to AAA games like this though.
It's not my job to wonder either. I'll leave it to some marketing person. I like the romances in this game.. Although the gating could be handled differently.
Why is it that when female gamers only get 2 romance options (Mass Effect 3) were expected to feel sorry for them but when dudes only get 2 we get called cry babies?
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I can't deny that a lot of gamers are females (of all ages), because of those casual and mobile titles. I'm not sure how to apply what it means to AAA games like this though.
This is just my personal experience: Every time I run into another Dragon Age fan either casually at Gamestop or at a local gaming convention, it has always been a female. At the latest gaming con, I ran into/made friends with a woman cosplaying as Cassandra. She's a huge DA fan and she's about 42 years old. (I could have sworn she looked 29, maybe 30. Man, she proved me wrong.)
And out of my circle of irl Dragon Age friends only 1 of those 6 friends is a male.
Maybe people should stop viewing it as a competition
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Why is it that when female gamers only get 2 romance options (Mass Effect 3) were expected to feel sorry for them but when dudes only get 2 we get called cry babies?
Because no one felt sorry for them and their romance options have yet to improve. We shall see with ME4. Also, the sheer amount of fandom over Thane and Garrus far outweighs any complaining on behalf of female ME fans. They were given two inhuman looking dudes and they took that and ran with it. A lot of girls are madly head over heels for both of those aliens.
You guys were given two completely normal, attractive, and interesting human women. One of which is a dragon-hunting warrior princess, built like a voluptuous athlete with a runway model's cheekbones. The other is an exotic noblewoman who is as delicate and graceful as a ballerina twirling in a music box. And the sheer amount of moaning and complaining over the "ugliness" of these two ladies is hilariously self-entitled compared to how willingly female players will accept/romance a green-skinned man with a fish face.
You misunderstand, i don't dislike Cassandra or Scribles. my issue is that Straight Men have 2 options, Gay men have 2 options, gay women have 2 options but Straight women have 4. Its unbalanced. Back in DAO Men had 2 and Women had 2.
Also i DID fell sorry for FemShep who were Staright. They got the shaft in Mass Effect 3. But Bioware shouldn't correct that by making it unfair to the other side.
Bioware games seem to have a pretty big following from the female/gay/transgender communities as they are pretty much one of the only major game companies (indeed media companies) who have started to include them in other forms than the traditional ways, I myself am straight male (tend to go for female characters though) but I saw an exellent documentary on the subject of depiction of gays in modern media. Becoming an early breaker of the traditional pattern alone earns a lot of loyalty, but having it being exellent as well would build a pretty massive following.
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You misunderstand, i don't dislike Cassandra or Scribles. my issue is that Straight Men have 2 options, Gay men have 2 options, gay women have 2 options but Straight women have 4. Its unbalanced. Back in DAO Men had 2 and Women had 2.
Well, it's not exactly 4 options.
There aren't four options for all female inquisitors. Female Qunari and dwarves can only romance 2 men: Iron Bull or Blackwall. Female humans can romance 3 men: Cullen (not a companion), Iron Bull, or Blackwall.
Female elves have their pick of the litter. They can romance 4 men: Solas (there is no sex scene), Cullen (not a companion), Iron Bull, or Blackwall.
So really, if you guys want to get upset about anything, don't get upset at straight female players being pampered with options. Get upset with straight female elves having more options. (Bisexual female elves have the most options, by the way. NOT the heterosexual ones.) Though, assuming you've beaten the game and you know the context of the plot, DAI is very "elf-centric." Solas was not originally a romance option, but the writers decided that with the extra year of dev time, they wanted to write him in strictly for a female Dalish. ::shrug:: It makes sense if you play a female Dalish. Through that romance arc, you learn more about Solas, the truth of what vallaslin represents, and the truth behind so called Dalish gods. Also there is no sex scene that takes place with Solas' brief romance arc. It's purely cerebral.
Edit: I strongly recommend everyone to do at least one female Dalish playthrough and romance Solas in order to get that content. It's very important to the plot - namely the cliffhanger ending.
Also i DID fell sorry for FemShep who were Staright. They got the shaft in Mass Effect 3. But Bioware shouldn't correct that by making it unfair to the other side.
NOT what Bioware is doing. They planned on balance. It was 3/3/3.
Then, they pushed the date, and they thought they could add more, but Cullen and Solas were easier to make work in story than, for example, Harding.
It's a resource and capability thing, not a deliberate attempt to give male players the shaft.
I didn't romace Solas but i know what happens in his romance.
Anyway i'm more mad about the Female gamers saying "Let me play you a song on the worlds smallest violen" and stuff like that. If guys had 4 options and women had 2, Everyone would be angry.
Because no one felt sorry for them and their romance options have yet to improve. We shall see with ME4. Also, the sheer amount of fandom over Thane and Garrus far outweighs any complaining on behalf of female ME fans. They were given two inhuman looking dudes and they took that and ran with it. A lot of girls are madly head over heels for both of those aliens.
You guys were given two completely normal, attractive, and interesting human women. One of which is a dragon-hunting warrior princess, built like a voluptuous athlete with a runway model's cheekbones. The other is an exotic noblewoman who is as delicate and graceful as a ballerina twirling in a music box. And the sheer amount of moaning and complaining over the "ugliness" of these two ladies is hilariously self-entitled compared to how willingly female players will accept/romance a green-skinned man with a fish face.
Because no one felt sorry for them and their romance options have yet to improve. We shall see with ME4. Also, the sheer amount of fandom over Thane and Garrus far outweighs any complaining on behalf of female ME fans. They were given two inhuman looking dudes and they took that and ran with it. A lot of girls are madly head over heels for both of those aliens.
You guys were given two completely normal, attractive, and interesting human women. One of which is a dragon-hunting warrior princess, built like a voluptuous athlete with a runway model's cheekbones. The other is an exotic noblewoman who is as delicate and graceful as a ballerina twirling in a music box. And the sheer amount of moaning and complaining over the "ugliness" of these two ladies is hilariously self-entitled compared to how willingly female players will accept/romance a green-skinned man with a fish face.
That's a damn awesome description of them.
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I didn't romace Solas but i know what happens in his romance.
Anyway i'm more mad about the Female gamers saying "Let me play you a song on the worlds smallest violen" and stuff like that. If guys had 4 options and women had 2, Everyone would be angry.
You're just speculating. Also you need to stop looking at it like, "Guys get this. Girls get that."
A lot of women do not play as females. A lot of men do not play as males.
(A lot of straight/bi/even lesbian women play as gay men, actually.)
Male inquisitors who are rolled as straight (any race) get 2 females.
Female inquisitors who are rolled as straight elves get 4 males.
Both of these inquisitors are roleplayed by a vast array of players with varying genders, sexualities, and preferences.
Well you got me there.
I'll just end by saying i hope that future DLC's throw Male players a bone (I mean Femsheps got a longer kiss from areia and could sleep with Vega or Javik, so maybe we could get something like that.)
You misunderstand, i don't dislike Cassandra or Scribles. my issue is that Straight Men have 2 options, Gay men have 2 options, gay women have 2 options but Straight women have 4. Its unbalanced. Back in DAO Men had 2 and Women had 2.
I'd have liked more equal distribution since I don't even want to play human and elf female but I don't think the situation is same. Straight male Shephard had 6-7 romance options (2-3 if not continued) in ME3. Depends if you count Allers. Straight female Shephard had 2-3 (1 if not continued), depends if you count Thane who dies pretty soon.
I actually went to ME3 with my Shephard who didn't have romance in ME2. So I looked wiki for my options. Kaidan and..? None. There was no option, just option to romance or no romance. That was pretty dull. I wouldn't have minded as much if there was even second option.
Personally I'd have liked 2/4/2 system best though, but there would be still people whining how little hetero characters the game has since there already was thread about that although half of LI's are heterosexuals and half have different sexuality.
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I'm perfected contented with Cassandra. Her romance path might be my favorite in any BioWare game. I actually liked the fact that she was completely dismissive and/or oblivious to the flirting early in the game and it made the eventual connection you make with her that much more rewarding and just plain better.
Plus, she's incredibly attractive. Anyone who says otherwise needs to step their visual perception game up.
I didn't romace Solas but i know what happens in his romance.
Anyway i'm more mad about the Female gamers saying "Let me play you a song on the worlds smallest violen" and stuff like that. If guys had 4 options and women had 2, Everyone would be angry.
Hmm...Some would be angry. Female gamers are actually pretty accustomed to it. I brought up Baldur's gate in a previous thread on the same topic, and irritated someone for bring up a very outdated example...so I'll look at something more recent.
Mass Effect, the first. Ashley. Kaiden. Liara.
Men interested in Women: 2
Women interested in Men: 1
Women interested in Women: 1
Men interested in Men: Zilch.
There are other examples as well.
Edit: Not complaining about these options. Bioware was affected by their own resources then, just as they are now. They did what they could. But keep in mind that this was actually a step forward in RPGs, and that means something.
The fact that now, this one example of a relatively light imbalance is getting all this uproar is what gets under people's skin.
TBH my biggest letdown was that cassandra was straight and I was playing as a female elf. She let me down gently. I moped. 
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TBH my biggest letdown was that cassandra was straight and I was playing as a female elf. She let me down gently. I moped.
My friend has this same disappointment. She wanted to play as a lesbian inquisitor and romance Cass. She was very disappointed, but she's quite happy now, romancing Cass as a male elf.
Yeah, Sera turned out to be great as well though (total rebound, but still). Doing a male dwarf for cassandra who is a snobby redhaired bucktoothed brit named Baldrick. I almost feel sorry for her.
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As much as I like Cass, I'm fine with people disliking her. Same with Josephine. I'd rather those people have other options though, than being frustrated, or simply picking them because they feel obligated to or they're going through the motions. Because I think the characters should be appreciated sincerely.
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Hmm...Some would be angry. Female gamers are actually pretty accustomed to it.
I've been playing video games since the very early 1980's and am quite accustomed to being forced into a male's role. Or, as the years went on, they introduced female heroes to us in the form of Lara Croft and other scantily clad/large breasted ladies. I didn't think anything of it and grew accustomed to that too. And when they finally offered more modest females to roleplay, there were sometimes options for romance. Typically the female heroes had far less options, if they even had an option, than the male protagonist. Also, playing as a female protagonist, you'd become accustomed to NPC's accidentally calling your hero "he" or "him" because the default ("true") hero of the story was almost always intended to be the male counterpart. You grew accustomed to this over the years because the industry didn't consider women, much less gays, trans, or ethnic minorities. It took up until the last 6? 7? years for that to happen and it happened slowly. For a AAA game company to not only take female players' interests strongly into consideration, meanwhile ignoring the fairness of gender numbers and simply writing the characters they wanted to write, but also to employ so many female developers - well that was something to behold. It's a new era now. And plenty of men and women are raising their daughters to play video games with zero apprehensions about it being "for boys only."
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