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I've long since gotten over the misgivings I've had with the straight male selection and learned to filter things through the lens of roleplaying. There are characters I intend to play that would love to crack through Cassandra's outer shell, and there's some that view Josephine as the perfect match. The only hiccup is that either option is trickier if I'm not playing either of those specific camps... those are more "play it by ear" situations.

 

Then there's the side that goes "I should Fem!Qunari x Iron Bull so he'll never leave me and we'll have little qunari babies in addition to having the Chargers as extended family! :3"



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Heh, I know it's not all about me, but seems to be about 50/50 on who likes and dislikes the options for straight male inquisitor, reasonings aside. As for the waifus thing, not once brought up and happen to know Leliana and Isabela both aren't good little Waifus characters either, in fact they both have a lot of heart and by far more of a persona in game wise to me than most of the other options. Again it's my opinion, and I know it's just my opinion here, but I doubt any of the characters that are female fit into this weird Waifus stereotype you speak of. Nor, did I ever mention needing that. I love more independent females anyways, Cass just feel short on other aspects for me. Sure she's all gungho independent, but yeah not much else there, her shell stays enclosed aside from one small part to me. Personally for me, I hope for another female in the games like Miranda/Isabela mix, then I'd never complain again, until then well I shall voice my opinion like others, but know oh wells, I shall put my little dream in a box and answer it myself elsewhere until the game day comes if it ever does XD. Lols, others love the characters fine so be it, enjoy em. Thats their right, just like mine is to be a small voice to merely put in my two cents :P

 

That's cool. Let's hope you get your wish in DA4 (doubt they'll ad a new option for this game, but you never know)! 



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On a small note I'd also love to see a female Quanri for the male straight relationships as well one day :P.



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Oh i hear Sera has a few things to say about Qunaretts. im going to brake her skinny Elf body in my bed.



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I remember when femshep players complained about the lack of viable romance options in ME3. Imagine if people said to those player "deal with it" or "get over it"  :rolleyes:


Don't try to make this the same.
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There's no Liara, Tali, Morrigan, and/or Isabella-esque romance option in this game, which is something Bioware failed at.


No, Bioware was under no obligation to give anyone anything more than the two options; which everyone has. Any obligation to give straight males specific types of women to romance was invented by straight males, and has nothing to do with Bioware. They succeeded in doing precisely what they set out to do.
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Don't try to make this the same.

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No, Bioware was under no obligation to give anyone anything more than the two options; which everyone has. Any obligation to give straight males specific types of women to romance was invented by straight males, and has nothing to do with Bioware. They succeeded in doing precisely what they set out to do.

 

And Garrus was option only when continued from ME2. I was quite sad to find in ME3 that I had no option.. only options was to romance Kaidan or not to romance anyone with straight female character. I think that sucks, to not have even option ^^;



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And Garrus was option only when continued from ME2. I was quite sad to find in ME3 that I had no option.. only options was to romance Kaidan or not to romance anyone with straight female character. I think that sucks, to not have even option ^^;

 

Is it actually possible to romance any of the old characters if you didn't romance them in the previous games? Except for Kaidan.



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Is it actually possible to romance any of the old characters if you didn't romance them in the previous games? Except for Kaidan.

 

Nope



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And Garrus was option only when continued from ME2. I was quite sad to find in ME3 that I had no option.. only options was to romance Kaidan or not to romance anyone with straight female character. I think that sucks, to not have even option ^^;


And Kaiden was kind of a drip, no way he deserved Shepard.
(Sorry Kaiden lovers, I just can't stand the guy.)

Is it actually possible to romance any of the old characters if you didn't romance them in the previous games? Except for Kaidan.


Liara, I think, and Ashley/Kaiden.
Basically, anyone introduced (as a romance) in ME2, had to have been romanced in ME2 to be available in ME3.

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And Garrus was option only when continued from ME2. I was quite sad to find in ME3 that I had no option.. only options was to romance Kaidan or not to romance anyone with straight female character. I think that sucks, to not have even option ^^;

 

Or you could have even had nobody at all if you Virmire'd Kaidan previously. Yeah, romance for straight female Shep in ME3 was BS. I felt bad for them.


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Is it actually possible to romance any of the old characters if you didn't romance them in the previous games? Except for Kaidan.

 

Liara and Ashley.



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Or you could have even had nobody at all if you Virmire'd Kaidan previously. Yeah, romance for straight female Shep in ME3 was BS. I felt bad for them.

 

I guess luckily I had randomized save in ME2 where Ashley died since I started with that one ^^; But yep that would have sucked even more.



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Liara, I think, and Ashley/Kaiden.
Basically, anyone introduced (as a romance) in ME2, had to have been romanced in ME2 to be available in ME3.

 

 

Liara and Ashley.

 

Ah, I see.



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Or you could have even had nobody at all if you Virmire'd Kaidan previously. Yeah, romance for straight female Shep in ME3 was BS. I felt bad for them.


Yup, I've been there. Saved Ashley on Virmire, romanced Thane in ME2...
My Femshep was rolling solo in ME3. Trying Liara in my more recent run, I think it'll work out.

That said, Thane's memorial in Citadel DLC was really nice.
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In general, unless you're a straight male in ME, you won't have any good romance. Lesbians get leftovers from straight males. Gays don't even have any option until ME3 and one of the options in ME3 is shared with straight females with less scenes and cut content. 



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Don't try to make this the same.

Spoiler

 

No, Bioware was under no obligation to give anyone anything more than the two options; which everyone has. Any obligation to give straight males specific types of women to romance was invented by straight males, and has nothing to do with Bioware. They succeeded in doing precisely what they set out to do.

 

"...and how was Bioware under any obligation to give straight female players more romance choices? The choices they made for romances in that game were for their own reasons. Who cares whether or not female players got a lesser amount of romantic choices, how is that Bioware's fault?"

 

 

^I don't necessarily agree with this statement, just using your same logic against you. We're allowed to voice opinions on what we find lacking with the game.

 

BTW, what right do you so called "feminist" have with dictating females appearances in video games? I often hear people of your ilk complaining about cleavage, big breast, asses, revealing outfits, walking animations, etc. (as if women IRL don't have big boobs/asses or wear revealing clothes) 

 

What "obligation" do developers have to listen and acquiesce to you people? Please, miss me with this BS you're spewing



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Looks arn't everything, and I'm actually extremely happy about what BioWare pulled off here.

I don't deny I am no exception - looks are after all the first thing you notice. At first, visually none of the characters (except Cassandra) struck me as extremely handsome.

But after a short time of playing and getting to know the characters I started to love them all. Looks arn't everything and BW is awesome in creating wonderful personalities.

 

Since I usually play male characters, I romanced Cassandra first and I just loved it. You had to work to conquer her heart, she didn't just jump on you at first glance and I'm glad this was so. I rly enjoyed her story and I'm looking forward to seeing the others. All of them.



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So let me just start out by saying I love Dragon Age, so this is not a rant. Also my first post on here in years!

I am however a little disappointed by the heterosexual female romance options...in that'll there's only two. There seems to be more options for the same sex or 'swings both ways' camps.

#Spoiler# (Which I only know from reading, not from experience in game yet)

The only options for a male heterosexual character which, let's face it (don't try to start and take the moral high ground here) is going to be the MAJORITY of DA gamers (it just is statistically) are, Cassandra or Josephine.

Now this thread might start to sound harsh,but I think it's fair.

Cassandra is a tough tom-boy esque, scarred faced zealot. Not most guys first choice in women. And Josephine; who's simply not involved in the game enough to be interesting (I.e. Not a proper party member to form a close relationship with).

When we compare them with the obvious 'sex appeal' of say Morrigan and Isabella, or the cutesy Leliana and Merrill, the options are slim pickings to say the least. Again, harsh but fair for the majority.

Such a ridiculous thing to fret about in a game, but in truth the companion and romance options in Mass Effect and Dragon Age games have been one of the most interesting 'side quests' to explore.

Add a third (straight or bi, non elf-loving) lady Bioware! :)

An epic facepalm is all that I can give to this.

 

You clearly haven't gotten to know Cassandra if you think she's a tomboy. And Morrigan, though I loved her character, was walking fan-service. Perhaps some of us prefer characters that are more than sex objects or characters we can make out with in cheesy cutscenes.



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An epic facepalm is all that I can give to this.

 

You clearly haven't gotten to know Cassandra if you think she's a tomboy. And Morrigan, though I loved her character, was walking fan-service. Perhaps some of us prefer characters that are more than sex objects or characters we can make out with in cheesy cutscenes.

 

Just because she's showing some skin, she's a sex object? You people are ridiculous, this site gives me headaches sometimes.



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Just because she's showing some skin, she's a sex object? You people are ridiculous

No.

The oversexualization of women in the fantasy genre is well-known and tiring, to be frank.



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No.

The oversexualization of women in the fantasy genre is well-known and tiring, to be frank.


More skin is better armor rating

Right?
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No.

The oversexualization of women in the fantasy genre is well-known and tiring, to be frank.

 

What makes a woman "oversexualized" ? Just having big breasts and showing skin? I'd understand if she made sexual comments and made provocative poses and gestures often. Morrigan doesn't do that.



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What makes a woman "oversexualized" ? Just having big breasts and showing skin? I'd understand if she made sexual comments and made provocative poses and gestures often. Morrigan doesn't do that.


Morrigan walks around wearing pretty much nothing.

How can you argue that is not oversexualised?

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"...and how was Bioware under any obligation to give straight female players more romance choices? The choices they made for romances in that game were for their own reasons. Who cares whether or not female players got a lesser amount of romantic choices, how is that Bioware's fault?"


^I don't necessarily agree with this statement, just using your same logic against you. We're allowed to voice opinions on what we find lacking with the game.

Well, that’s because what you’re using against me isn’t logic, nor was it ever employed by me.

What Bioware wanted to aim for was fairness, not necessarily in Inquisition, but try to make a reasonable statement about the status-quo. The only thing they had to do was, as I said, provide the expected two options per sexual orientation, and they did that, and did it well.

The extra romances available to straight female Inquisitors have no effect on what Bioware had already decided to do with the allotted two per gender thing. This was extra development, and they saw fit to obligate themselves to, as I said, balance the status-quo a little bit.

Asymmetrical numbers aren’t a problem in and of themselves, but Mass Effect 3 had an issue in how it handled things because choices from past games were deliberately invalidated by plot: Jacob and Thane. Garrus was locked in at ME2. That’s one vs four exclusive options, and he wasn’t even human.

This is pretty elementary stuff, I don’t know why you’re choking on it.

BTW, what right do you so called "feminist" have with dictating females appearances in video games? I often hear people of your ilk complaining about cleavage, big breast, asses, revealing outfits, walking animations, etc. (as if women IRL don't have big boobs/asses or wear revealing clothes)


Oh my god, get away from me with that nonsense. If you want to look at the dictionary definition, sure, I’m a feminist, I’m for gender equality, but don’t you dare make presumptions about what I think because you can’t comprehend a female character existing for reasons other than your gaze. Get over yourself.

I’ve never once said I have a problem with female characters being overtly sexy. I’m a straight guy, I like it; I’m predictable like that. At the same time, I don’t require it in order to appreciate a woman as a person, or find her attractive. Inquisition rather casually brings up Cassandra’s underwear—she doesn’t wear any—and there’s definitely nothing wrong with the size of her breasts. She's a woman, a striking one, and the game encourages you to think about her sexuality. That you can't is no fault of the games.

What "obligation" do developers have to listen and acquiesce to you people? Please, miss me with this BS you're spewing

“You people”, that’s cute.
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Morrigan walks around wearing pretty much nothing.

How can you argue that is not oversexualised?

 

She seems covered enough for me, not seeing what's the problem. Just because she doesn't dress in a way you deem "dignified" doesn't mean there's anything wrong.


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