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[Allan Schumacher]

I am however a little disappointed by the heterosexual female romance options...in that'll there's only two. There seems to be more options for the same sex or 'swings both ways' camps.

 

There will always be more options for bisexual protagonists, but the perspective of "more options for same sex" is possibly influenced by the reality that such options are seen so infrequently that people overstate them.  There was an experiment done which had teachers rigidly adhere to a policy of giving students 50/50 attention between the boys and the girls.  The boys reported back that they felt that the girls were getting 90% of the attention.

 

Most characters have 2 options if they are not bisexual.  Heterosexual women, however, have 4.  Part of this was influenced in part because of the stories we wanted to tell.

 

As a heterosexual man myself, the breakdown is one I have no issues with and I'm utilizing the wealth of choices to explore playing characters that I don't typically play.  I also think that both Cassandra and Josephine are excellent options for men, but I understand that your mileage may vary for a lot of that and it's impossible to make a game that uniformly appeals to all people with respect to romantic interests.

[Ascendra]

Except that's not who Morrigan is. Morrigan's just a total b*tch who deep down wants to find someone she finds even remotely worth her time talking to. And sure, A female Warden can befriend her, but even then, not a single bit of major development happens outside of her raising Kieran. And nah, Leliana is not more interesting than

Spoiler

the daughter of the union of a mega witch and an elven god.

Let's not play.

You did not think she grew? With femWarden youre her only friend which she respects, she also calls you a sister. Thats quite a development. I think the cutscene that was supposed to be there before DR with Alistair would have clarified what she really feels about femWarden. Sadly it never made it into the game and had to be restored by modders.
Leliana was boring in DAO. She feels more real now, better.

Cass is my favorite new female friend in Inquisition. I dont know why people complain, she is actually so fuzzy inside and hopelessly romantic. Especially with the book incident. That sold me on her forever.

[Steelcan]

You really need to stop trying to make it boring here.

Its what I do

[MelissaGT]

Same here... Do they have more animated conversations than our companions? It sure feels that way. I feel Cullen has more romance-related stuff.

I've only watched the straight female scenes, so I can't comment on Cass, Sera, etc. But it seems like Cullen gets the most, especially since some of his are quest-related.

 

I'm one of those saps who has been a Cullen fan since DA:O so call me biased. His romance arc seems to have gotten the most development, which is surprising (and welcome) considering it wasn't part of the original plan!

[MelissaGT]

Why should people stop caring about romances? It brings a little extra something to the story imo. It's not as if you have to indulge in them either, it's optional.

 

So maybe you should ignore that part of the game, instead of worrying about the romances you clearly aren't interested in.

Agreed - I tend to think of Bioware romances as a parallel to reading sappy harlequin romance novels...except Bioware tends to have better character development. If you don't think less of someone who likes to read that stuff, then you shouldn't think less of someone who enjoys these types of games and all that they offer.

 

If you don't like it, you don't have to play that content. My b/f loves Bioware games too, but he tends to not get too into that stuff, and that's his choice. 

[Steelcan]

I'm tired of people being silenced for having the audacity to not like the romances for straight men.

I'm not particularly thrilled with either Cassandra or Josephine, sue me. There is nothing wrong with not liking the options available,or thinking that the options are unattractive. I find the incessant "you can't complain" far more irritating than the"I don't like"

[Iakus]

I must be the only straight guy thats actually content with the female romances available to me with this game.

 

You're not, actually

[Br3admax]

Sorry to tell you this, but not liking Cassandra is definitely a sign that something is seriously wrong with you.

[Jaulen]

Sorry, Steelcan, you're not 'being silenced'......I think you misunderstand the meaning of the phrase.

 

Being silenced would mean these threads that CONTINUALLY pop up, saying the same thing, would be deleted. Or the posts complaining about Cass and Josie would get deleted. Some get locked because they veer way off topic or get vitrolic.

 

Many just wish you guys would be honest and say:

"I want the naive hottie that I need to ride in on a white horse and rescue to romance, instead of having to choose from two realistic looking capable women."

 

Then of course you'd get slayed for being shallow.....but at least you guys would be being honest.

 

And just because people are pointing out their own opinion, or how they think you are wrong, that is not being silenced.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Part of me wanted this to be a heterosexual woman complaining for a change. I needed that boost today.

 

Okay, I'll fulfill that one .... My femRogue is smitten with Cassandra, and she's not an option. Why couldn't it be Cassandra (bi) instead of Josephine?

 

Of course on the PC you just change the tags - you will once the game is working correctly, I know, but us console players can't

[Steelcan]

*looks at list of gif all saying "shut up"*

Yep no attempted silencing

[Steelcan]

Furthermore, Imnot asking for the kind of romance you implied. I am fine with the story line to Cassandra's romance, I'm just not satisfied with her appearance. Yes I am shallow.

Same for Josephine really, though I also take some issue with no romance scene with her



Don't presume to know what I want or what I am looking for

[daveliam]

*looks at list of gif all saying "shut up"*

Yep no attempted silencing

 

Not any more so than people who pop into multiple romance threads and complain about people discussing romance content.  That whole argument boils down to

[Jaulen]

That's not 'being silenced' that's being asked to stop beating a dead horse.

 

And being asked to do something isn't the same as having something being actually DONE to you.

 

 

Personally, I cant wait for my next character to romance Cass. As a straight female, and after finishing the game, she's turned out to be one of my favorite companions. I can't wait to see what her romance is like after playing and getting hints of her personality.

 

I also like Josie, but she's a little too 'from the right side of the tracks' for me.

[Steelcan]

I wasn't complaining about people liking romances. I was commenting on what I think is the inordinate focus given to them.


I think they should be cut or at least drastically scaled back, but I'm not going around saying "no you can't like that since I don't"

[Br3admax]

Considering in the time I've known him, Steel has never said he hated the idea of romance content, and more about not being allowed to express his opinions himself because every straight male is thrown into the group of people who complain about the number....

[Steelcan]

No, somewhere after the third gif we moved from "asking to stop beating a horse" to "downright rude attempts to silence"

[Steelcan]

Considering in the time I've known him, Steel has never said he hated the idea of romance content, and more about not being allowed to express jus opinions himself because every straight male is thrown into the group if people who complain about the number....

To clarify with my earlier post about wishing it cut or scaled back, that is personal preference. I am not against them in theory, nor do I want people who do like them to not have the option. I just dislike the focus they get, particularly on this forum.

[daveliam]

I wasn't complaining about people liking romances. I was commenting on what I think is the inordinate focus given to them.

 

One day people on this forum will stop caring about romances.

 

Your clarifying helps me understand this, but surely you can see how it's interpreted as trying to silence discussions about romance.  Particularly when you have done this in many romance threads.

[Br3admax]

Lol

 

You did not think she grew? With femWarden youre her only friend which she respects, she also calls you a sister. Thats quite a development. I think the cutscene that was supposed to be there before DR with Alistair would have clarified what she really feels about femWarden. Sadly it never made it into the game and had to be restored by modders.
Leliana was boring in DAO. She feels more real now, better.

Cass is my favorite new female friend in Inquisition. I dont know why people complain, she is actually so fuzzy inside and hopelessly romantic. Especially with the book incident. That sold me on her forever.

 

Having feelings for one person alone was kind of the problem I had with it. I didn't expect Morrigan to change, but I'm not going to pretend she was an amazing character beyond being interesting. At least not as great as the people who like her, besides a few, make her out to be. Definitely overrated. 

[Steelcan]

Your clarifying helps me understand this, but surely you can see how it's interpreted as trying to silence discussions about romance.  Particularly when you have done this in many romance threads.

well seeing as I'm not saying "you can't enjoy this because I don't"....

Merely saying that romances are given too much focus by many people on this forum.

[Jester]

Genuinely I'm not shallow - in life or in game ;-) . If we take say Merrill. She didn't have "big boobs". She was another race and had tattoos on her face. Obviously that's far from the norm, but she was cute as hell and therefore interesting to pursue.

I'm just not getting that from Cassandra or Josephine.

To each his own. I've never romanced Merill and find her completely sexually unappealing. 

Cassandra is actually very attractive (and she's not entirely what she appears at the beginning). 

Josephine on the other hand has exaclty this innocence and cuteness vibe you probably got from Merill.

 

There are different tastes, I for example prefer Inquisition to DA2 (where I had to choose between crazy, sexually unappealing elf and a promiscuous, large breasted pirate chick).

I still prefer Morrigan as a romance, to women from other Dragon Age games, but as I said - to each his own. 

 

Viconia is still an unreachable ideal when it comes to romances in cRPGs for me. Whoever wrote those dialogues was seriously good.

[Jouni S]

The only options for a male heterosexual character which, let's face it (don't try to start and take the moral high ground here) is going to be the MAJORITY of DA gamers (it just is statistically) are, Cassandra or Josephine.

Wasn't it in the news just a couple of months ago that PC gamers are evenly split between men and women, at least in the US? And while men prefer FPSs and MMOs, women form a slight majority in RPG players. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the majority of Dragon Age players were female.

[Br3admax]

Considering only 18 percent of all Shephards were female, and that's including the males who played that. I seriously doubt it. 

[ComedicSociopathy]

My god there's like sixty of these. Why don't people look at the backlog threads? Seriously.