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No Blood Magic!? You MUST be kidding?


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Before people start saying that there was information about it not being in the game - I didn't read up on the game because personally I didn't expect to buy it after my experiences with DA2 :(

 

Will we see Blood Magic come out as a patch? Hope to God that it isn't DLC...

 

Or are Bioware just not adding it towards the game because they felt that it couldn't be as awesome as before?


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There is no way they will be adding content like Blood Magic in a patch.


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There is no way they will be adding content like Blood Magic in a patch.

 

I understand how they now wanted it to be more of a impact from the world as Blood Magic is NOT accepted. I wouldn't mind it being in a DLC but it better be damn good!


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They talked about it earlier last month.  This is from Mike Laidlaw, lead project head for Dragon Age.  In short, he calls overwhelming majority of the final shots for the game (EA does have some of the final-final say,) and is David Gaider's boss:

 

http://www.ausgamers...ands-on-preview

 

"So we aren't actually doing Blood Magic in Inquisition as a specialisation, in part because I made myself a promise -- if we went back to Blood Magic we would do it up real good,” he said. “I felt like we were undercutting its significance, because in the Dragon Age world it is the ultimate temptation. I think think that to do it right it almost needs to be the Malkavian option from Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. And it's something we need to explore, but in a game where we were also exploring open world and five platforms and multiplayer it seemed like perhaps we had enough irons in the fire.

 

So, judging from this, Blood Magic is gone from this game, but not necessarily for good in the series.   I don't think you'll see blood magic as a specialization (no, not even as a DLC) this time around, but keep an eye out for future games.  It sounds like they do want to bring it back later.

 

Plus, the idea of playing a Malkavian (i.e utterly insane) type character is an intriguing one.  I wonder what the devs would consider a PC Blood Mage done "right."


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Also, it wouldn't work with the current resource systems as it uses HP, you would either ended up unable to cast anything real fast or it would became a "must have" spec 'cause of some HP regen passives/OP healing abilities.

 

Not to mention, it wouldn't fit thematically. Wardens can be Blood Mages and apostate mages can be blood mages but the leader of Inquistion a blood mage? No way. Also Solas said it hinders your connection with the Fade, that's not something you really want.


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I find nothing wrong with a mage Inquisitor being a blood mage. I'm tired of people thinking that blood magic is evil because it isn't. It's a tool of survival.

 

Blood magic is one of the most fascinating specialization IMO. It's a shame that the game doesn't give you that option.

 

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Even everyone's lover boy is impressed with blood magic. Look at how he smiles at such art.


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Also, it wouldn't work with the current resource systems as it uses HP, you would either ended up unable to cast anything real fast or it would became a "must have" spec 'cause of some HP regen passives/OP healing abilities.

 

Reaver trade his HP for Damage just as Blood Mage..when you play as a reaver there's no point of using another warrior skills, you constantly draining your hp and healing yourself for a small amount. Bloodmage is just the same...so it's not such a problem to implement BM with current resource system. Probably Bioware just don't have enough time to make Bloodmagic as cool as they want it to be, so they could've decided to implement it later with other new specializations in DLC or DA:4.


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Well... Hopefully, in another game.

 

For God's sake BW, lt us make more evil characters!! 


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They talked about it earlier last month.  This is from Mike Laidlaw, lead project head for Dragon Age.  In short, he calls overwhelming majority of the final shots for the game (EA does have some of the final-final say,) and is David Gaider's boss:

 

http://www.ausgamers...ands-on-preview

 

So, judging from this, Blood Magic is gone from this game, but not necessarily for good in the series.   I don't think you'll see blood magic as a specialization (no, not even as a DLC) this time around, but keep an eye out for future games.  It sounds like they do want to bring it back later.

 

Plus, the idea of playing a Malkavian (i.e utterly insane) type character is an intriguing one.  I wonder what the devs would consider a PC Blood Mage done "right."

In that context then wow - - - I remember in DA:O there was a scene removed from the Circle if you were a Blood Mage and you could fight Wynn the Knight Commander and also the First Enchanter but it would break your game LOL

 

I also see people writing that it wouldn't be good for the Inquisitor to be a BM and I don't understand how so? Demons are pouring out of the sky and the idea that ALL blood mages are evil is incorrect. Don't forget from DA:O that Jowan wasn't a bad guy at all - Even though I killed him LOL - I think it would make perfect sense to use powerful magic against a power foe and people like Solas would be in conflict with that!

 

And for GOD SAKE MAKE US EVIL!



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They talked about it earlier last month.  This is from Mike Laidlaw, lead project head for Dragon Age.  In short, he calls overwhelming majority of the final shots for the game (EA does have some of the final-final say,) and is David Gaider's boss:

 

http://www.ausgamers...ands-on-preview

 

So, judging from this, Blood Magic is gone from this game, but not necessarily for good in the series.   I don't think you'll see blood magic as a specialization (no, not even as a DLC) this time around, but keep an eye out for future games.  It sounds like they do want to bring it back later.

 

Plus, the idea of playing a Malkavian (i.e utterly insane) type character is an intriguing one.  I wonder what the devs would consider a PC Blood Mage done "right."

 

Blood Magic DLC incoming ^_^



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My girl and I don't think that making a blood mage insane is the way to go. They really did that in Dragon Age 2 with all the mages. They really went overboard with it. Mage Hawke for us was a blood magic user but did not go insane or evil. It could be done where there could be moral choices for a blood magic user. But to make a magic user doing blood magic completely insane and crazy just because they chose a specialization seems wrong.



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Give me my ranger spec back too I want a bear pet with guard!

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Blood Magic DLC incoming ^_^

Don't get your hopes up for this game at all.   Not from the way Mike is talking.  It sounds like that if they were to do Blood Magic, it would be a big deal in the main storyline.  No Blood Mage Inquisitor, sorry.   Honestly, I think one of the future games were we end up in Tevinter would be a great chance to do that.  There is both good and bad blood mages in Tevinter.

 

I personally don't care either way.  My preferred class is rogues and when I do play mages, I prefer elemental.  Blood magic is overrated, but that's just me.



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Give me my ranger spec back too I want a bear pet with guard!


Bears in DAI are too OP already. A bear pet would break the game.

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There is a blood magic spec, it's called Reaver.
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There is a blood magic spec, it's called Reaver.

You think you're so clever?


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Herald of Andraste the blood mage. ya that will end well. 


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You think you're so clever?


Reaver is blood magic. You gain the spec by drinking the blood of dragons. You use your own blood or the blood/flesh of your enemy to power your abilities.

I'm pretty sure that it's even described as blood magic in its Origin write-up.
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@Lord Raijin:  You are literally disagreeing with the makers of the game.



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It has always been a wildly problematic type of magic to have the PC use.

 

First it is supposed to be insanely powerful. Well that sorta sucks to try and balance.

Second, it is forbidden and you play as a "leader" in all 3 games. Hard to work into a narrative.

 

Should never have been in O or 2 to begin with because of those two things. Glad it isn't there.



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They talked about it earlier last month.  This is from Mike Laidlaw, lead project head for Dragon Age.  In short, he calls overwhelming majority of the final shots for the game (EA does have some of the final-final say,) and is David Gaider's boss:
 
http://www.ausgamers...ands-on-preview
 

So, judging from this, Blood Magic is gone from this game, but not necessarily for good in the series.   I don't think you'll see blood magic as a specialization (no, not even as a DLC) this time around, but keep an eye out for future games.  It sounds like they do want to bring it back later.
 
Plus, the idea of playing a Malkavian (i.e utterly insane) type character is an intriguing one.  I wonder what the devs would consider a PC Blood Mage done "right."


I played Malkavian on my first playthrough. I had no idea what was going on half the time. XD

Though I don't think he really means the actual insanity part, but more that it would be a drastically different game experience from any of the "normal" specs.

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Reaver is blood magic. You gain the spec by drinking the blood of dragons. You use your own blood or the blood/flesh of your enemy to power your abilities.I'm pretty sure that it's even described as blood magic in its Origin write-up.


I know this you silly goose. The op wants to be a BM wielding mage. A sparkle fingers. Not a warrior.

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I know this you silly goose. The op wants to be a BM wielding mage. A sparkle fingers. Not a warrior.

 

Yeah exactly lol - I understand the Reaver spec entirely. The quest line was awesome in Origins, but that is a Warrior spec, not a Mage.

 

I guess I enjoyed the spec as a whole regardless of how OP it was - It's unique and different.  I never went Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage because that was just insanely powerful and I wanted to just be a mage.

 

It did confuse me in Origins how nobody reacted at all - also getting the spec was just so awesome - making a deal with the demon was just fantastic! I would love to see the PC completing the quest line for becoming a BM and sacrificing everything you can to gain such power. The consequences can then occur within and outside of the Inquisition. That would be unreal.



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Hope blood magic comes back when they do it properly. They turned it into a joke in DA 2.
In a single player they can have powerfull effects, but the costs associated increase. Long cool down on spells and greater health loss for example.

I suppose the blood mage should be the ultimate glass canon. Model after Raistlin.

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Well... Hopefully, in another game.

 

For God's sake BW, lt us make more evil characters!! 

God damn Gundar I love your profile pic whoo wee, I agree though about the evil chars, would be nice and not a stupid DLC like the Darkspawn one. I want a Evil Hero. Yes a Evil"Hero" that's me.