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[Gamyu]

i would not say that. Remember, the inquistor has faced worse. Also the mark can boost other abilities. Added, hawk killed Cory at his weakest and most confuse, the inquisitor killed when he was his most powerful.

  The Inquisitor didnt killed Cory at his strongest...his strongest would be if he's physically in the Fade. By the end of DAI, Cory was still a pathetic puppet who still doesn't know he was being used, that was so desperated that he attacked you head on.

The Inquisitor wins IMO. The warden can be replaced with Alistair or even Loghain if we're talking about killing (or deliver the killing blow to ) the Archdemon. Without Flemeth, the Warden and Hawke would have died due to some lame Darkspawns . Without Flemeth's help, Inq will probably find some way to kill Coryfish's dragon anyway since he(she) himself has to kill it ( which still has 50% hp left ) at the end.

  I will change what you said around a bit:
Warden and Hawke win IMO. The Inquisitor can be replaced by Hawke, or even the Warden (since there is a possible cure for the Calling) if we're talking about killing Cory. Without an old lady sacrificing her life to save yours, the Inquisitor would have died to some lame spiders . Without Divine Justinia's help, Warden or Hawke...either one don't need her help to kill that fake Archdemon.

While I agree that all the Inquisitor (and his companions and armies) have done is so much more impressive that the other two,but I think it's unfair to compare what's those 3 have done as comparison because Hawke will be at most disadvantage while the Inquisitor has the most advantage.
So how about we agree that one is as awesome and badass as the other two?
because those three essentially are all of us

Of course the Inquisitor done more impressive things than Warden and Hawke. S/he has it easy, worshipped as the Herald of Andraste like 15 minutes into the game and has an huge army with 3 Advisors to help. About an hour into DAO, with Origin and Ostagar, the Warden is a wanted criminal and traitor who had to fight against all odd to reach where s/he is. 15 minutes into DA2, Hawke is a normal guy/gal trying to survive Kirkwall, and took a few years to make a name for themselves. If we are going to talk about the most badass, I think we need to get rid of everything and look at how skilled they are, and yes, that means no Mark. Which in this case IMO, the Warden feels the most badass.

[leaguer of one]

  The Inquisitor didnt killed Cory at his strongest...his strongest would be if he's physically in the Fade. By the end of DAI, Cory was still a pathetic puppet who still doesn't know he was being used, that was so desperated that he attacked you head on.
 

Wrong. Him going to the fade would of been him going to a brand new level. He is at his strongest of his current form, which is damn powerful.

[leaguer of one]

Actually, Duncan suggests (before the fighting begins) that you (the Warden) would be an equal alternative (or something to that effect) when he is introduced in the main hall.

In fact...I seem to recall some mention (I don't remember where) of rumors that Duncan's original objective in Highever was to recruit you and not Ser Gilmore.  Or maybe he flat out tells you...it's been so long since I played human noble...

Even if that second part is something I imagined (it could be), the first is still true.  In every Origin, he compliments your skill in whatever your specific Origin conflict was.  The only true place it can be said he didn't recruit for skill would be the Dalish Origin.  He does say something about how you fight darkspawn, but I always got the feeling that my Dalish wardens were conscripted out of sympathy (to save your life.)

 

if you are a noble,mage or city elf he did come there for you.

[outlaw1109]

  The Inquisitor didnt killed Cory at his strongest...his strongest would be if he's physically in the Fade. By the end of DAI, Cory was still a pathetic puppet who still doesn't know he was being used, that was so desperated that he attacked you head on.
  I will change what you said around a bit:
Warden and Hawke win IMO. The Inquisitor can be replaced by Hawke, or even the Warden (since there is a possible cure for the Calling) if we're talking about killing Cory. Without an old lady sacrificing her life to save yours, the Inquisitor would have died to some lame spiders . Without Divine Justinia's help, Warden or Hawke...either one don't need her help to kill that fake Archdemon.
Of course the Inquisitor done more impressive things than Warden and Hawke. S/he has it easy, worshipped as the Herald of Andraste like 15 minutes into the game and has an huge army with 3 Advisors to help. About an hour into DAO, with Origin and Ostagar, the Warden is a wanted criminal and traitor who had to fight against all odd to reach where s/he is. 15 minutes into DA2, Hawke is a normal guy/gal trying to survive Kirkwall, and took a few years to make a name for themselves. If we are going to talk about the most badass, I think we need to get rid of everything and look at how skilled they are, and yes, that means no Mark. Which in this case IMO, the Warden feels the most badass.

Your logic about Cory being at his *weakest* is not correct.  He's a darkspawn, not a demon.  His strength lies in the living world as the basis of his power is within the taint.  Also, his dragon's death gives him ALL of his power.  I feel like I've made this same point, earlier in the thread...

And, actually, an old lady does help the warden.  her name is Flemeth.

The only substantial difference between the Warden and Quizzy's armies is that  the Warden actually commands his.  So maybe there can be a perceived strength there, but people keep pointing to the Quizzy's army like a weakness.  Yeah, it's there from the beginning of the game, but how often do they help you in battle?

Just as much as the armies of Ferelden helped the Warden.

If you're going to use the "has support of this: therefore is weak" argument, I'd have to say that Hawke would be the toughest of the three because he/she had the least amount of support.
 

if you are a noble,mage or city elf he did come there for you.

 

Thank you, thought so.

[TehMonkeyMan]

Inquisitor for sure. Anythin else is based on personal bias

[dsl08002]

Warden is a super heavy weight, lots of health, strenght and in my case 4 specialasation, also with bulwark invunrable against damage for a time.

It is not a fair battle

Its a super heavy weight against one middle weight ( hawke), a light weight ( inquisitor)

[Asakti]

While the Warden will always be my favourite - and I think she'd kick arse against my Hawke and Inquisitor.  ...eh, this is an impossible argument to make.

 

I do think each of the heroes were in entirely different situations.  And one of the cartoons I saw on Tumblr is quite accurate:

 

The Warden's situation was like being freshmen - everyone was quite new to the situation, had no idea what they were doing or where they were going.

 

Hawke and the crew were like sophomore's - it was a wild ride and everyone was rebellious.

 

The Inquisitor and the Inquisition are the seniors - everyone is more powerful from the get-go and it is all very serious.

 

...it kinda works.  The Inquisitor has the advantage because they are treated like a boss from the start (unlike Hawke and the Warden) and has more powers than Hawke/Warden from the start.  But yeah, I still favour my Warden

[rubynorman]

   I will change what you said around a bit:
Warden and Hawke win IMO. The Inquisitor can be replaced by Hawke, or even the Warden (since there is a possible cure for the Calling) if we're talking about killing Cory. Without an old lady sacrificing her life to save yours, the Inquisitor would have died to some lame spiders . Without Divine Justinia's help, Warden or Hawke...either one don't need her help to kill that fake Archdemon.

Hey, at least the "help" the inquisition needed was just a hand to pull her/him up. He/she faced Cory and his dragon 2 on 1 and had the intelligence to find a safe escape. Warden/Hawke needed a dragon to escape darkspawns. Further more, the HoF was saved by Duncan in all origin-stories. The Inquisitor with companions took down 50% hp of Coryfish's dragon, demons, and Cory with no army in the last battle. The warden needed an army of many races to kill the Arch-demon and darkspawns in the last battle on the top of the tower. 

[SuperKuman]

In term of real combat, i think Hawke have more killcount than the other, he/she already kill almost anything dragon,corry,harvester,meredith,pride demon,ogre,arishok. Hawke is more like a fighter, Warden is more about diplomatic and leading an army, Inquisitor is more like a president. Just my opinion 

[Solar1101]

The Inquisitor without a doubt due to his/her Anchor based powers.  Also more resources to draw upon and people who can be in general more loyal and more useful.  The Inquisitor has a castle built on magical elven ruins and has his/her own personal arcanist.  Yep more powerful.  Depending on choices you can now command the entire Templar Order or Circle Mages.  

 

The inquisitor by his/her own nature is shaking the foundations of power and possibly becoming a modern prophet of Andraste.  The HoF may have killed an archdemon or helped to do it but the Inquisitor is a power akin to that of the old tevinter magisters and can move entire nations.

[Fullmetall21]

In my opinion while the Warden is in fact a very experienced and skilled warrior/mage he/she has nothing extraordinary about him/her like the Inquisitor and the anchor. And while Hawke doesn't either he/she did kill a Qunari Arishok however the same can be said about the Warden and Sten during his moment of crisis. So overall I think its Inquisitor>Warden>Hawke.

[GoodFella146]

warden.  not even close.

 

warden > inquisitor > hawke

 

mark of the rift being the strongest offensive ability ok but, force field, blood wound, and mana clash were insane in origins (just off the top of my head).

 

 

edit: well from a mage standpoint, didn't think about other classes.

[ShawDawg94]

No one is ever going to be able to prove that one of the protagonists is more skilled as a fighter than the other two. They all defeated everything that was put in front of them. Trying to compare their feats doesn't work. Sure the Inquisitor killed more high dragons but he never faced a true archdemon or a spectral dragon like the warden did. The only deciding factor is the anchor. Its a power that the other two don't have, thus the Inquisitor is more powerful.

[Auztin]

In a straight up 1v1v1 battle:Hawke
Strategic & Tactical:Warden
Diplomacy & Politics:Inquisitor

[omgodzilla]

The inquisitor is overrated. Look at how easily they get b!tch slapped by Morrigan lol. Seriously, its like one of the most hilarious scenes in the game.

 

It's at 7:12

 

[Raiil]

How are we determining strong? I'd argue that the Inquisitor has the benefit of their armies *and* their infrastructure, Hawke has force of personality and is unhindered by responsibility, and the Warden is probably the toughest thanks to how long they were forced to survive on their wits alone.

In my personal head canon, my Warden is the strongest by a country mile (spirit healer/arcane warrior/battle mage), with a better friendship To Orzammar and the might of her lover King Alistair behind her, but that's just my Warden. Everyone's story is different.

[DementedSheep]

For my main word state? My warden simply because she's a mage while my inquisitor and Hawke are both rogues. The warden didn't just  kill the archdemon (assuming they didn't die) they also fought the Mother and Architect (determinant) who is probably a magister. Although my inquisitor if you count the inquisition and political pull as part of her power and maybe if you base it purely off who they kill. I'm not sure lore-wise how much the Inquisitor is actually able to with the mark (you open a rift in Corypheus, can you do this whenever you want?) . I tend to think of the Warden as the most self sufficient of the bunch. Everything else being equal though the inquisitor wins.

[Uccio]

Warden. Was there any doubt?

[Fredward]

The Inquisitor can kill ten high dragons as a sort of on the side hobby so... yeah.

[Jestina]

The Warden smack downed Flemeth. All the other characters just bow to her and kiss her old, wrinkly behind.

[Sully13]

Warden

[Dieb]

In my case, I'd say clearly the funny, brown-haired, stubbly, human male ranger would win.

 

Wait.

[Fingolfin1222]

Assuming same category(Mage), The Warden wins easily - Blood Mage + Arcane Warrior (not to mention Mana Clash which basically one shots other mages) is OP. The other mages can shoot whatever they want at him. his resistances to all elements is as high as it gets and his spell resistance is also beyond what even most templars have. 

 

And who says that Archdemon was the strongest foe the Waden ever faced? My Warden beat the Harvester on Nightmare, not to mention the Architect who seems to be another one of the Magisters (at least he looks just like Corypheus).