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[AlexiaRevan]

I say Hawke...she has a sense of humour ! something the warden and Inquisitor Lack....so WIN! 

[Elfyoth]

Schompless. 

[Fran-kiki]

The Hero of Ferelden, because she practically saved the world without any assistance and gathered army with some old crappy documents.  Hawke...killed a Qunari one-on-one? That's it really. I liked the inquisitor, but if it wasn't for them accidentally getting rift powers they might not have been as powerful or influential as the Warden. Sorry Warden-fangirl here. I've made my disdain for Hawke pretty apparent in every thread. 

[Piktoonis]

In single combat, warden is the strongest, then Hawke. In DAO, my dual wielding rogue would always be the last man standing, all those bonus stats, wade's armor and specializations. Inquisitor rogue is simply too fragile.

 

In political, military power, inquisitor is the boss, then warden. Hawke is just a simple guy with some friends, no point in comparing to other two.

[Orian Tabris]

The Warden is the most powerful. Origins is easier on Nightmare than DA2, so the Warden is stronger than Hawke. And The Inquisitor can only use 8 spells or talents at a time, whereas the other two can use all of theirs...

 

Stupid 8 skill slot limit...

[Aren]

I have changed my mind regard this topic. Loghain once said a man is made by the quality of his enemies. 

1)Hawke impressive victories-----> Meredith,Orsino,Arishok,SUper Corypheus in his prison and the Duke 

2)Inquisitor impressive victories----->Corypheus (the joke),Red lyrium Dragon,several dragons, corypheus generals and notable demons (not the Nightmare)

3)Warden commander impressive victories------> Old god Urthemiel,Mythal the elven goddess (weakened), Paragon of Orzammar,The Hero of River Dane,The Mother,The Architect

SO my current rate is 

Warden

 Hawke 

Inquisitor

because i believe that without his beautiful mark the Inquisitor will be defeated easly and i honestly dont know if the mark can be used without the breach and the Orb and the permission of Fen Harel.

[Heimdall]

So... people need to resort to game mechanics to claim the Warden is best.

Love how the Warden fans are downplaying that the Inquisitor killed many more High Dragons than the Warden ever did...

[Commander Felos]

The warden would've annihilated the inquisitor. Have you guys forgotten about storm of the century together with crushing prison or manaclash? 

[Raiil]

So... people need to resort to game mechanics to claim the Warden is best.

Love how the Warden fans are downplaying that the Inquisitor killed many more High Dragons than the Warden ever did...

 

 

That's not much of a qualifer since it's not like the Warden determines how many dragons existed in the series at that point.

[Raiil]

The warden would've annihilated the inquisitor. Have you guys forgotten about storm of the century together with crushing prison or manaclash? 

 

 

Virulent walking bomb + Alistair's Holy Smite + Manaclash = You and what army?

[JadeDragon]

So... people need to resort to game mechanics to claim the Warden is best.

Love how the Warden fans are downplaying that the Inquisitor killed many more High Dragons than the Warden ever did...

Archdemon>High dragon

Spectral Dragon>High Dragon

Flemeth>High Dragon

 

The Wardens quality of dragons slain>Inquisitors quantity of dragons slain

 

The inquisitor also needed help from another dragon to defeat a red-lyrium dragon aka fake archdemon. So it was a health strength by the time the inquisitor fought it. While The archdemon was already attacked it was still more powerful then the red-lyrium dragon as it had full health.

 

Also Gaxkang so far seems to be the more powerful out of the forbidden ones given it will rank higher in most powerful slain foe in base game.

[DialupToaster]

To my knowledge

 

Hawke survives Ostigar without Flemeth, Warden requires Flemeth's help. During prologue warden would've died without Duncan. Champion would have died in lothering without Flemeth. Inquisitor would have died in fade if not for the divine's sacrifice. Inquistor would have died in the fade without hawke/stroud/alistair/loghain. Currently Hawke>Warden>Inquisitor.

 

Hawke spends a year as a smuggler or hired thug. Anders at this point is a warden and abomination of Vengeance (aka lore wise hella strong) and is despite all logic considered about equal in power to Hawke (makes no sense to me either.) Warden has at this point almost completed all of his recorded adventures. Inquisitor has been either doing mercenary work, mage training, smuggling, dalishing, or living a cozy life as a noble. Currently Warden>/=Hawke>Inquisitor.

 

Warden's recorded adventures definitely done by now, presumably he does standard warden work at this point aka being ambiguously evil. He has at this point killed almost anything that hawke will kill for the next 7+ years. Inquis still done jack. Hawke has killed numerous thugs, tal vashoth, revenants/arcane horrors/other undead, and apostates/bloodmages at this point and has either begun or completed the deep roads expedition so add in the profane, a dragon, and numerous demons and darkspawn. Currently Warden>>>Hawke>>>Inquisitor.

 

What do wardens do in spare time? Probably some recruiting and deep roads expeditions so we'll say that warden has just been doing more of the same. Hawke has now killed numerous Qunari, a race of (presumably part dragon?) reavers who hunt dragons. These qunari are the Arishock's personal troops and are likely highly skilled. Notable that unarmored qunari are far better than most of thedas' non mage soldiers, The arishock greatly above the rest of them. Hawke spear heads the last of the resistance to the qunari after they (pretty much instantly) take over kirkwall. The qunari are massacred and Arishock defeated in duel. Hawke has now killed the qunari's best, numerous thugs, numerous bloodmages, numerous undead, ect. Inquis still doing his thing. Current Warden>Hawk>>>>>Inquis.

 

To summarize act 3 Hawke kills numerous templars, thugs, mages, 1 highdragon and brood, 1 meat golem, 1 super saiyan, numerous statue golems, numerous demons, numerous bloodmages. During whenever, Hawke killed a bunch of chevaliers (who lacked pc slaying technique 304) killed numerous tal vashoth, killed some dragonlings, wyvern(s?), and a pompous Orleasion. Warden does warden things, Inquis is told to head to conclve... three years from now. Current Warden=Hawke>>>>>>>Inquisitor.

 

Finally inquisition happens and he does his stuff and becomes jesus. Hawke also kills numerous more demons and wardens. Possibly kills numerous mages, templars, and thugs for old times sake. Also died to a fear demon. Likely, probably. Only the maker(bioware) knows.

 

Because I'm getting tired and lazy, I'll do what I should have originally.

 

Warden:

numerous humans

numerous elves

numerous dwarves

numerous darkspawn

numerous dragons

numerous demons

numerous golems

numerous wildlife

numerous undead

a varrtarell whatever it's called.

1 darkspawn magister?

2+ pride demons (felt deserveed own distinction)

 

Hawke

numerous (but less varied) darkspawn

numerous elves

numerous dwarves

uncountabe amounts of humans

numerous dragons

numerous demons

numerous golems

numerous statues

numerous undead

numerous qunari

numerous wyverns

vartarblarrl... twice.

1 meat golem

1 super saiyan

1 darkspawn magister

numerous pride demons

surprisingly little wildlife

 

Inquis

a few darkspawn

numerous humans

uncountable amount of demons

numerous pride demons

personally ended the dragon age

personally depopulated thedas of wildlife.

Numerous undead.

a few dwarves.

a few ancient elves

1 darkspawn magister holding an actual idiot ball.

 

In all honesty, Warden and Hawke killed enough of the same that i'd say a warden hawke would've been able to pull off the exact same feats. That said, while their skill is about equal maybe even in hawke's favor (being a badass normal) the physical boost would be enough for the warden to overcome Hawke. Assuming the Inquisitor doesn't rift kill the both of them, their too inexperienced and lacking in feats. So the end result is warden>=Hawke>Inquisitor in a 1v1v1 fight.

 

As an aside

of the wardens (amell, surana, tabris, aeducan, cousland, ect. They only have a 14.3 % success rate considering the rest all die.

The inquisitor origins have a 25% success rate of getting the anchor and saving the world.

Hawke has a 100% success rate at plunging the world into chaos. Go him/her?

[MisterMonkeyBanana]

Wouldn't it really depend on the class/weapon styles of each protagonist? Probably the Inquisitor though, they have that whole Anchor control the fade thing going on.

[Frocharocha]

To my knowledge

 

Hawke survives Ostigar without Flemeth, Warden requires Flemeth's help. During prologue warden would've died without Duncan. Champion would have died in lothering without Flemeth. Inquisitor would have died in fade if not for the divine's sacrifice. Inquistor would have died in the fade without hawke/stroud/alistair/loghain. Currently Hawke>Warden>Inquisitor.

 

Hawke spends a year as a smuggler or hired thug. Anders at this point is a warden and abomination of Vengeance (aka lore wise hella strong) and is despite all logic considered about equal in power to Hawke (makes no sense to me either.) Warden has at this point almost completed all of his recorded adventures. Inquisitor has been either doing mercenary work, mage training, smuggling, dalishing, or living a cozy life as a noble. Currently Warden>/=Hawke>Inquisitor.

 

Warden's recorded adventures definitely done by now, presumably he does standard warden work at this point aka being ambiguously evil. He has at this point killed almost anything that hawke will kill for the next 7+ years. Inquis still done jack. Hawke has killed numerous thugs, tal vashoth, revenants/arcane horrors/other undead, and apostates/bloodmages at this point and has either begun or completed the deep roads expedition so add in the profane, a dragon, and numerous demons and darkspawn. Currently Warden>>>Hawke>>>Inquisitor.

 

What do wardens do in spare time? Probably some recruiting and deep roads expeditions so we'll say that warden has just been doing more of the same. Hawke has now killed numerous Qunari, a race of (presumably part dragon?) reavers who hunt dragons. These qunari are the Arishock's personal troops and are likely highly skilled. Notable that unarmored qunari are far better than most of thedas' non mage soldiers, The arishock greatly above the rest of them. Hawke spear heads the last of the resistance to the qunari after they (pretty much instantly) take over kirkwall. The qunari are massacred and Arishock defeated in duel. Hawke has now killed the qunari's best, numerous thugs, numerous bloodmages, numerous undead, ect. Inquis still doing his thing. Current Warden>Hawk>>>>>Inquis.

 

To summarize act 3 Hawke kills numerous templars, thugs, mages, 1 highdragon and brood, 1 meat golem, 1 super saiyan, numerous statue golems, numerous demons, numerous bloodmages. During whenever, Hawke killed a bunch of chevaliers (who lacked pc slaying technique 304) killed numerous tal vashoth, killed some dragonlings, wyvern(s?), and a pompous Orleasion. Warden does warden things, Inquis is told to head to conclve... three years from now. Current Warden=Hawke>>>>>>>Inquisitor.

 

Finally inquisition happens and he does his stuff and becomes jesus. Hawke also kills numerous more demons and wardens. Possibly kills numerous mages, templars, and thugs for old times sake. Also died to a fear demon. Likely, probably. Only the maker(bioware) knows.

 

Because I'm getting tired and lazy, I'll do what I should have originally.

 

Warden:

numerous humans

numerous elves

numerous dwarves

numerous darkspawn

numerous dragons

numerous demons

numerous golems

numerous wildlife

numerous undead

a varrtarell whatever it's called.

1 darkspawn magister?

2+ pride demons (felt deserveed own distinction)

 

Hawke

numerous (but less varied) darkspawn

numerous elves

numerous dwarves

uncountabe amounts of humans

numerous dragons

numerous demons

numerous golems

numerous statues

numerous undead

numerous qunari

numerous wyverns

vartarblarrl... twice.

1 meat golem

1 super saiyan

1 darkspawn magister

numerous pride demons

surprisingly little wildlife

 

Inquis

a few darkspawn

numerous humans

uncountable amount of demons

numerous pride demons

personally ended the dragon age

personally depopulated thedas of wildlife.

Numerous undead.

a few dwarves.

a few ancient elves

1 darkspawn magister holding an actual idiot ball.

 

In all honesty, Warden and Hawke killed enough of the same that i'd say a warden hawke would've been able to pull off the exact same feats. That said, while their skill is about equal maybe even in hawke's favor (being a badass normal) the physical boost would be enough for the warden to overcome Hawke. Assuming the Inquisitor doesn't rift kill the both of them, their too inexperienced and lacking in feats. So the end result is warden>=Hawke>Inquisitor in a 1v1v1 fight.

 

As an aside

of the wardens (amell, surana, tabris, aeducan, cousland, ect. They only have a 14.3 % success rate considering the rest all die.

The inquisitor origins have a 25% success rate of getting the anchor and saving the world.

Hawke has a 100% success rate at plunging the world into chaos. Go him/her?

 

This probably summarizes everything. But we must remember than in LORE, the characters had the help of the ENTIRE party when dealing with most of this stuff.  The awnser t othis question would depend o nthe strongest foe each of them took down alone.

 

I would go with the Inquisitor. Very skilled and learned how to open fade rifts to literally crush their enemies to death. So not even fair.

[jlb524]

Inquisitor 4sur

[ComedicSociopathy]

 

Warden wins.

[Neoideo]

Heroes sorted, in descending order, by their actual power:

1) Inquisitor

2) Warden

3) Hawke

 

However, if we could plot their power progression p(x) as a function of time x, I see it like this:

(1) Warden   -> p(x) = x^2

(2) Hawke     -> p(x) = x

(3) Inquisitor -> p(x) = log(x) + 1000

 

In the future, I believe the Warden is the one who could kill old gods in DA4.

[Eternal Phoenix]

So... people need to resort to game mechanics to claim the Warden is best.

Love how the Warden fans are downplaying that the Inquisitor killed many more High Dragons than the Warden ever did...

 

Aye and by the same game mechanics answer, we can say that the Inquisitor just opens a rift with his/her power and that's the end of Hawke and The Warden.

 

Saying the Inquisitor can't use his fade rift power is like saying it's "unfair" if the Dragonborn can't dragonshout or for the Chosen Undead to resurrect. These powers define these characters just as the specializations and unique abilities to Origins and DA2 that people keep bringing up for the Warden and Hawke define them.

[TracyJackson]

Honestly, the Inquisitor have a slight edge here. I think Hawke is the weakest of the three. Sure, he defeated the Arishok and saved Kirkwall (and semi-killed Cory)...but that's about it really. At least the Warden survived an Archedemon, went through the Fade, and slew hundreds of darkspawn. The Inquisitor killed an ancient Magister, killed multiple dragons, survived the Fade, etc...

[KaiserShep]

So... people need to resort to game mechanics to claim the Warden is best.

Love how the Warden fans are downplaying that the Inquisitor killed many more High Dragons than the Warden ever did...

 

The way I see it, all protagonists must submit to the game mechanics of the latest game, because if that character were to show up and engage in combat, all of their abilities will be bound by the talents available in that game.

[Heimdall]

Archdemon>High dragon

Spectral Dragon>High Dragon

Flemeth>High Dragon

 

The Wardens quality of dragons slain>Inquisitors quantity of dragons slain

 

The inquisitor also needed help from another dragon to defeat a red-lyrium dragon aka fake archdemon. So it was a health strength by the time the inquisitor fought it. While The archdemon was already attacked it was still more powerful then the red-lyrium dragon as it had full health.

 

Also Gaxkang so far seems to be the more powerful out of the forbidden ones given it will rank higher in most powerful slain foe in base game.

The Warden had help with the Archdemon.  The other two, you'd have to prove are actually any more powerful than a normal high Dragon (In the fight anyway, I'm not convinced Flemeth was going all out, she wouldn't want the Warden dead before he stops the Blight and she knew there was an alternative in place), which I don't think they are.

 

Again, more game mechanics arguments...

[Heimdall]

The way I see it, all protagonists must submit to the game mechanics of the latest game, because if that character were to show up and engage in combat, all of their abilities will be bound by the talents available in that game.

I tend to see all game mechanics as an abstraction and largely useless in such conversations.

[AiCola]

the warden is the greatest hero that ever lived and easily owns them all.

He is also the greatest leader of all time, defeating the blight by starting with a party of 3 people + 1 dog.

How can there be any question to his might?
He drank the blood of the dark spawn and turned their biggest weapon, the blight, against them.

He also has much more powerful allies than the inquisitor and doesn't rely on middle men and ambassadors.

Hawke is a wimpy weakling that can't even defeat a giant spider nightmare.

the worse cutscene i have ever seen in a game is how he goes out, so surely he is nothing compared to the warden.

 

 

the nightmare does nothign to stop them, they had plenty of time to discuss who "buy them time" and everything hawke did in that scene could have easily been achieved if they all attacked together and then all escaped, lulz.

since neither hawke nor the inquisitor managed to realize this they both are far inferior to the warden.

[RoachTr19o5]

Is there something that Warden didn't kill?