My mages are true Arcane Warrior no chantry idiots. The warden can heal at the same time or is warrior skilled archer. He can have a spirit friend that makes he looks better.
The inquisitor has only Cole..
Hard to say. All are pretty wicked. However, if we take away any of those 'special' gifts...Hawke, hands down. No Anchor, no Taint...Hawke is just sheer and utter combat awesomeness. Even the Warden, who didn't JUST kill an Archdemon, they also potentially downed one of the first Darkspawn as well. Hawke though, had to do it with just pure skill. Gives them a slight edge over the Warden.
Now, going straight to power...I think the Inquisitor. Just based on the Mark. Sure, Hawke lived in the Thedas equivalent of Sunnydale, but that Mark can make a serious impact fast. I can't say that the Inquisitor is a better fighter, a superior mage, or a craftier rogue...both the Warden and the Champion had to get by without it. I think I can say though, the Inquisitor has access to far more power than the others. I look at it this way: the Champion is skilled; the Warden is tough; and the Inquisitor is the artillery. Rogue/Warrior/Mage combo, in a way. DPS/Tank/Crowd Control.
Of course, this topic just makes me want to see the three team up. They would have made short work of most of High Dragons...only the Elder One would have been a problem...unless Cory can only possess Wardens that have been bound...hmmm, anyway, at the end of it all, yes, I have to say the Inquisitor...but JUST barely...
Just for the record, I honestly think if there was a three way fight between them, it'd end in a TPK. If they had their teams? One of each role? Hmmmm...well, lets go with the starters. Also, no Varric. To many loyalty conflicts. Warden (warrior)/Alistair/Morrigan/Leliana. Hawke (mage)/Aveline/Isabela/Merrill. Inquisitor (rogue)/Cassandra/Sera/Solas. Just at a glance, I think that the Warden would have a serious edge. Their team is far more experienced. Alistair is a Templar, which means he can lock down Hawke, Merrill, and Solas. Counterpoint, so can Cassandra. Morrigan can dish out serious damage, and Leliana and her bow are going to probably kill a few as well. That being said...Aveline is a tank. She'd negate most of what Leliana and Sera can do, plus, I say she could go toe to toe with both Alistair and Cassandra. She's all about soaking up damage. Isabela, assuming that she doesn't get caught in a spell, or shot by Sera, will probably neutralize the other rogues. Merrill is also all about damage, assuming she can keep from getting killed. If she and Morrigan survive more than a few minutes, it's probably a TPK just based on them alone. As for the Inquisitor...that Mark of the Rift comes into play, and they may win right there. If they aren't killed, they are weakened. Solas will just add to that, and will keep them buffed to soak up damage. Sera will do what she does best...put arrows in people. At a distance, her only real threats are mages and Leliana, but if she gets them first, props for her. Cassandra may not tank like Aveline, but she will beat down most of her opponents while taking a good amount of punishment. It'd be close. Now, as for the Warden...a solid warrior Warden is horrifying. Two swords, tanking, and as a Champion (possibly) they can buff their allies. Hawke? MAGE Hawke? Combat trained with spells. Yes, remember, Hawke was trained to use their staff as a weapon, even without magic. Meaning that while they might not be able to match the Warden, blow for blow, they'd still be able to hold their own for a while...and with magic, I doubt any other mage would survive one on one. Inquisitor rogue is a huge problem. Where are they now, and what are they killing me with? I don't see them as a better fighter than any of the other rogues. Isabela is a pirate queen, Leliana a bard...years of fighting experience and learning how to fight dirty. No, but add in a specialization and the Anchor? Vanish, back off, and open a rift. Personally, I see the Inquisitors team going down first (lacking experience), with the Warden's team and Hawke's team beating it out until the Inquisitor opens a rift and kills most everyone. Hawke would likely go down fighting the Warden, but critically injuring them. Then, with their last breath, the Warden decaps the Inquisitor. Then dies.
Isn't that how Bioware would end it anyway? Unhappy endings for all? That IS the Dragon Age way, right? ![]()
The Warden is the strongest hands down.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Inquisitor's ability to open fade rifts isn't one he controls. It just happens under extreme stress in situations where the Inquisitor would have otherwise died.
Since the Warden has access to more legendary level gear and more specialisations we can pretty much assume he's better at combat and could kill the inquisitor easily 1 on 1 if the inquisitor didn't have powers.
Now let's factor in the powers. The anchor allows the Inquisitor to open fade rifts and also to deal massive damage with Mark Of the Rift (but only once). The Warden can take Massive damage and still remain functional and stronger than the Inquisitor. Now after they Duke it out and the inquisitor is close to death, his ability to open a fade Rift will probably flare up. Opening a fade Rift however transports all characters nearby, which includes the Warden, who has survived being physically in the Fade also. The Warden also was Alone and got his entire party out when he was in the Fade. So the Warden proceeds to kill the inquisitor within the Fade. After that however getting back to the this side of the veil would be hard af especially if the inquisitor closed all the fade rifts. If he didn't and there's one nearby the Warden could escape through it. If there isn't he'd probably die within the Fade
I don't want to nitpick here (he said fully intending to nitpick) but the bolded just isn't true.
I don't want to nitpick here (he said fully intending to nitpick) but the bolded just isn't true.
And I thought the companions like Wynne, Leliana and Alistair were reluctant to admit that they were stuck in a dream ![]()
Nope, that's why you wake up from being unconscious after.Right sorry. Got mixed up. But wasn't the Blackmarsh thing being physically in the Fade? Just asking I know the Circle thing is wrong.
too bad that i never used the supposed army to begin with,and solo (only with my character and 0 companions ) the final battle, Gaxkang the Unbound he was an hell of a boss,the Archedemon not so much.
An army shows up there whether you like it or not. That you didn't notice all the little allies who happened to be traipsing around through the battle rather intends you're lying about not utilizing an army, as well.
I don't want to nitpick here (he said fully intending to nitpick) but the bolded just isn't true.
This, I think, is entirely within the realm of debate and could go either way. Personally, I side with the idea that the Warden did, in fact, physically go to the fade, as the one bit of evidence that points to the contrary could just as easily be called the party getting up after a violent magical spell at best, or an animation screw-up at worst. The magic used to bring you into the fade, for starters, looks suspiciously like early concept for tears opening that we'd later see in Inquisition, and much of the plot of the area has to do with a village which was indeed physically pulled into the Fade. Other tidbits of note include the fact that the corpses which come out of the Fade are not intact (as opposed to what we've seen previously, where those who die in the Fade look perfectly fine, if corpsified, on the other side of the veil) and that, despite being filled to the brim with hostile creatures, none decide to take advantage of your unconscious form during the decent length of time the Warden would be laying unconscious, if indeed their body was still present.
Let's see...
You have the hero of a city versus two world savers. . .One of which remains the head of an organization that rivals nations. . .
IMHO...
BioWare will always go with the last generation game that sold the most copies...
Default answer is Inquisitor...
That being said, I have to go with Hawke.
S/he is only human with nothing special going on yet managed to kill him in DLC (for the practical purpose of defeating him). Warden and Inquisitor could/did do the same, but have the superpower advantage...if Hawke got a boost, this S/he would be most powerful.
Warden has the taint boost...
Inquisitor has anchor boost...
Of course I'm writing this on drunk logic w/o reading other peeps posts...since I guess it got nasty.
Whoever find fault with this...I'll do a shot for you.
The Inquisitor has been permanently melded with the anchor. Something that Corypheus required to ascend to what is essentially godhood. That power is part of the Inquisitor, and gives the Inquisitor the ability to physically step into the Fade. That is "official information" and that is something we see happen over the course of the game. We also know that the Inquisitor is able to open and close rifts, including one as large as the breach. This again is "official information" that we are witness to by playing the game. These are powers that the Warden lacks. Simple as that.
Also, what background are we talking about when you state that "Warden is the only of the tree that is really a warrior"? If one were to choose a qunari Inquisitor for example, then we know that (s)he was in a mercenary company, and was a leader even then. Similarly, the human inquisitor was a noble like that of the human warden. Just like the warden, we can assume they had training as seems to be the norm with noble families in DA.
i agree with this but there is one thing you missed. in DA:O human noble is as you say, but dwarf noble is trained the same, your about to be given a command. as for dwarf castles, well gangs fight all the time and thus he is also a good fighter in theory. as for the elf, all elves (dalish) are taught to hunt and are as such known at the end as the greatest archers in thedas. while the city elf had formal combat training from his mother (who was a possible candidate to be a warden herself) not to retract from the mages but at the start they are in theory the least experienced of all of them. sure the mage had magic but effectively he is a green recruit just out of training while all other typed had some formal combat training.
to be fair as for my fav characters, well the warder was simply my fav because of play style and story. then the inquisitor, but I'm bias, i played pc for origins and DA:2 while x-box for inquisition, i prefer PC and as suck i enjoyed origins more then inquisition.
i an also sure that i would enjoy inquisition a lot more if i had it on PC.
I don't think you and I played the same games.
Only Wardens can stop blights. Period. Within the first 30 minutes of Origin there are exactly two "wardens" in Fereldan. An unknown sum in Orlais. Per Origins the Wardens were nigh extinct globally because of politics. The resurgence of the wardens in Orlais was a direct result of the Warden's actions in Origins.
although you are technically correct, in terms of how things play out in the game, towards the end the 3rd warden pitches up in the denim dungeons. also according to blackwall (DA:I) he was in fereldan but was just a lazy git and stuck to himself in the middle of a blight.
The inquisitor is for sure at the last place, so dull so forgettable i cannot take seriously an "herald" who has left behind female Hawke while he was running like a coward, ah great knight!
Hawke, the Inquisitor, then the Warden.
Unlike the other two, Hawke has no special gifts guiding him, he just wins by being awesome and skilled. The Inquisitor's gift is more rare and powerful, while the Warden is only good against darkspawn.
An elven mage Inquisitor could quite possibly be one of the strongest beings in existence especially if he drinks from the pool of sorrow. The potential is endless.
The hero of ferelden is powerful yes, but really has most of their combat experience fighting dark spawn.
The champion of kirkwall has skills no doubt but nothing truly significant.
EXCEPT that Hawke potentially killed the Arishok, a Rock Wraith, a First Enchanter, a High Dragon, and most certainly a Lyrium Infused Knight Commander who was far more than Samson was. Oh, and Corypheus. Hawke DID kill the Elder One before. Those skills ARE significant. As we learned in wrestling in school, a great wrestler can get by on only five moves, if you can do them well. Skills matter.
And remember, Cassandra DID look for the Hero and the Champion first. There is a reason they were on the short list...
Also, if I remember correctly, Mage Warden was a magical prodigy; Noble was already a skilled warrior; Dwarf Commoner was a Champion in their own right; Dwarf Noble was on their way to general; City Elf was the child of a master rogue, and had been taught to be the same; Dalish Elf was a gifted hunter. I remember killing a LOT more than JUST darkspawn. Loghain's soldiers (prior to being beheaded) were human. Killed dwarves, elves, werewolves, sylvans, mages and demons too. This was a hardened soldier by the time Awakening ended. Don't sell them short by saying that they couldn't keep up with a fight because they majored in darkspawn.
Inquisitor just seems to have the least combat experience. Isn't their fault, after all, the Warden and Hawke have been fighting for nearly a decade. That experience is going to count for a LOT. Warden is a career soldier by this point. Hawke is an action survivor. Inquisitor is still on the rise. So in retrospect, it'd be kinda hard to call WHO is the most powerful...but at this stage, Inquisitor seems to be at a disadvantage aside from the Mark.
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The Inquisitor has the best ass in the series, especially M!Adaar so he tops (or bottoms heh) in my book.
Inquisitor just seems to have the least combat experience. Isn't their fault, after all, the Warden and Hawke have been fighting for nearly a decade. That experience is going to count for a LOT. Warden is a career soldier by this point. Hawke is an action survivor. Inquisitor is still on the rise. So in retrospect, it'd be kinda hard to call WHO is the most powerful...but at this stage, Inquisitor seems to be at a disadvantage aside from the Mark.
Not entire true. Cadash is a Carta dwarf, fighting and killing is part of their business. And Qunari Inquisitor was born in a mercenary band, raised by mercenary parents in a mercenary band, which means they've probably been on battlefields and fought beside hired killers since the day they were very young. Both would have plenty of combat experience.
With the Inquisitor now possessing the aegis of the rift, s/he just became even more super powered.
1st. Hawke
2nd. Warden
3rd. Inquisitor
Not entire true. Cadash is a Carta dwarf, fighting and killing is part of their business. And Qunari Inquisitor was born in a mercenary band, raised by mercenary parents in a mercenary band, which means they've probably been on battlefields and fought beside hired killers since the day they were very young. Both would have plenty of combat experience.
Fair point. Not sure about the other two, a noble and a First...they probably haven't been doing a lot of fighting, but the other Dalish would be Hunters, so they would have fought from time to time. I still think the Warden has got to be the most combat heavy of them all...after the Blight, they basically started chasing them down. Plus anyone who hangs with Ohgren is going to have to learn how to fight. Wait, anyone who is friends with Ohgren or Velanna is going to have to fight on a near daily basis. Someone might have touched Ohgrens junk...
With the Inquisitor now possessing the aegis of the rift, s/he just became even more super powered.
Maybe not super-powered, just nearly untouchable...which...might be the same thing really, heh. Takes away any advantage from bows or simple magic, yes?
although you are technically correct, in terms of how things play out in the game, towards the end the 3rd warden pitches up in the denim dungeons. also according to blackwall (DA:I) he was in fereldan but was just a lazy git and stuck to himself in the middle of a blight.
The Warden would not have been able to defeat Corypheus. Had s/he tried, Cory would simply hijack that body and it's a wrap. In any case, there's no substitute for a massive infrastructure and forces at your command to tip the scales.