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[Zlykebab]

Mage... Warden probably loses. Their rock armor stinks, no barrier, all they have is arcane warrior which is mostly just a weak auto attacker that likely couldn't stand up to the pure offensive power of Hawke and Herald. And both of them have dispel, which pretty much completely neuters the DAO arcane warrior. And the Warden's really powerful stuff won't help them, because Hawke and Herald would be fighting in close enough that any firestorms or fireballs or blizzards dropped by the Warden will hurt the Warden as much as their own opponents.

Primal spells aren't only, that Warden can use. With spells like mana clash and mass paralysis  s/he could counter barriers and prevent opponents from getting closer and use blizzards, firestorms, etc.

[Cz-99]

Based off the final fight mainly...

 

My Warden practically solo'd the Archdemon. The rest of the party was off fighting spawning Darkspawn in the corner, no idea where the NPCs were, and Wynne tossed a couple heals here and there. The fight overall relied on my 2-Handed Warden popping potions and spank-and-tanking the Archdemon, chasing him down, and shooting a ballista or two at him when he went and hid. Went on to solo Armored Ogre leaders/bosses in Awakening - this time with no heals from le KO'd party members.

 

Hawke ran around the battlefield, mostly shooting the statues, while the rest of the party fought Meredith. Tossed some spells at here, but it was a group effort. There was so much stuff going on that it was tough to determine how much each person contributed to the fight.

 

Inquisitor ran around shooting missiles at the Lyrium Dragon, then ran around shooting missiles at Cory, who shot missiles at him, while the Inquisitor dodged and shot some more missiles at him, and Cory in turn did the same. Aside from the creating a rift inside Cory's body at the end during the cutscene, the whole fight had less skill and talent than the entire Kardashian household.

 

Without the glowing hand, the Inquisitor ain't shite.

[Madeline McQueen]

This is a hard one, all the bosses were tough but my Warden, Hawke and Inquisitor where tougher! They rule the roost together.  However the bosses can be rated.  

 

My personal opinion on who the toughest bosses were in order (top being the toughest) are:

 

1. Arch Dragon,

2. Hakkon, 

3. Corypheus / Merideth.     

 

With the warden yes they did have an army but don't forget they went up against not just an arch demon but a huge army of darkspawn. If that darkspawn army wasn't there, I bet it would have been just the warden and her team, so I'm not including that she had an army because they needed an army to beat an army. 

The arch demon was definitely one of the strongest foes, I would say he might be the worst out of all of them. My warden definitely had the tougher job including the massive army to fight through. 

 

As for my champion, Corypheus was tough but as I mentioned above, not as tough as the arch demon. He and Meredith did put up a good fight, they are equally levelled I think, the fights lasted a long time more than anything. So I think both Meredith and Corypheus are tide in the second one.

 

In the third, Corypheus and his dragon was definitely more of a challenge than he was in the second one but he wasn't as strong as the Hakkon dragon. That dragon also had a small army of his own and my Inquisitor was only allowed herself and her small group, which made things more difficult. Hakkon was tougher than Corypheus but Arch demon just skims out ahead.

[Snowy-Ninja]

Well If we are just judging the three heros on their own without their friends / allies and other aids then I would say this. 

1. Warden 

2. Inquisitor 

3. Hawke 

 

The warden killed an archdemon, the mother and the architect. They battled felemeth, high dragons, that odd spirit / lightning dragon in Blackmarsh, werewolves, the darkspawn, demons, broodmothers, countless undead and golems. True the warden doesn't actually kill the architect (if they choose to attack him) but technically neither does Hawke. I'm not 100% sure cory has been killed by the Inquisitor either, maybe he's just broken into tiny pieces and scattered in the fade? 

 

Also the warden has their warden abilities, power of blood (if you drank the potion) and the fact they can learn multiple specializations as well as use more then one type of weapon. Plus unlike the Inquisitor they have the option to learn skills that are never even offered to the inquisitor such as blood mage, spirit warrior (why this wasn't an option is still a mystery to me), Berserker,  Bard, Ranger etc. Plus they have survival, pickpocket, persuasion, trap, herb skills.

 

If the three were forced to fight one another the warden would slaughter both Inquisitor and Hawke, they are just way to overpowered and sure the Inquisitor can toss his/her enemies into the fade but honestly I don't even think the battle would last long enough for them to do that because it takes time to open rifts and such. Plus your wardens what level 50 by the end of all the dlc? and your hawke and Inquistor are still only in their 20's?

 

Its the reason I personally prefer Hawke, the other two are heroic giants that everyone knows but Hawke is the peoples champion. 

 

But if we count their companions and resources. 

 

1. Inquisitor 

2. Hawke

3. Warden 

 

You could argue that the warden has the backing of the wardens but by the end of DAI the warden is on their own and the warden's are just one giant mess while Hawke (if you didn't leave them in the fade) is on their way to warden HQ with their love interest and sibling and possibly warden companions (if you exiled the wardens) so its close but I stick Hawke at 2. 

 

The inquisition is just to large and powerful even if the warden had the backing of the wardens I doubt they can fight the Inquisition. Not many people seem to support or like the wardens after all the weird stuff they do in DAI and if the two went to war I think the Inquisition would have the backing of the people. Plus the inquistion has resources that the wardens no longer have and their forces are united under one common goal / banner while the wardens are now divided. The only way the wardens could topple the inquisition was the control the last two archdemons, grab a load of darkspawn and attack Skyhold (which still needs repairs) which wouldn't be that easy unless you could tunnel under Skyhold through the frostbacks or use deep roads to get to skyhold? 

 

Meanwhile Hawke is just doing their thing travelling the world seeing the sights and hopefully not causing to much trouble. At least under they arrive in the Anderfels, which I assume is just one giant mess by now. 

[Aren]

 

But if we count their companions and resources. 

 

1. Inquisitor 

2. Hawke

3. Warden 

 

 

i do not agree if you mean permanent resources.

The Inquisitor resources are destinated to be  lost after his adventure(especially one dread wolf) ,even the others allies,while the Warden if ruler still maintain power over an entire nation for life.

[Stenn]

warden>inquisitor>Hawke

yeah inqu got anchor but its also need chaneling time and my warden will not give s/he enough time for that.

and hawke cant match alistair power )

but with their allies inquisitor has enough power to capture thedas.

[King Killoth]

Depends on  how you measure the power of a person. 

 

Warden is a highly skilled and battle harden warrior that lead a rag tag army into battle against over whelming numbers and a hive mind. then won that battle and went on to form some of the most elite military special forces and even took on ascent and new foes. but is now lost and unknown.

 

Hawke survived a darkspawn attack but lost a family member and spent much of his life as a mercenary working odd jobs until hawke finds the the deeproads and then loses two family members after and is rich but has to fight a small qunari battalion. then takes part in the start of the mage rebelion.

 

Inquisitor leads the most powerful military army in all of southern thedas. holds sway over the orlision empire and influence over the chantry. Inquisitor has slain more dragons then the warden and hawke combined and has the power to open the fade itself.

 

so yeah Inquisitor would win any military campaign put against it. the warden would likely win any skirmish or one on one fight and hawke is skilled and powerful but ultimately not as powerful as the warden and Inquisitor 

[BillyK]

Hm, lots of people seem to be speculating a lot of this through gameplay elements so I don't know how anyone wins that really, we're all going to have it different there. My warden didn't even touch the archdemon, Alistair soloed him (and most other big bosses) with warden either dead or throwing heals out. As far as my game is concerned, Warden was a nobody and didn't really do much besides gather treaties, but of course the story sees him as this huge hero. He was also not the same warden who killed Mother for me and Architecht was spared. So...

 

Alone, neither Warden nor Inquisitor have actual solo achievements as far as the story goes, unless your Warden died fighting the archdemon. ie. landed the killing blow and accomplished that by themselves, although Riordan weakened it and it's generally assumed that the party and armies helped also, but the sacrifice is optional. If he survived killing it, it is because Morrigan saved him.

 

Inquisitor had the same deal with Corypheus. Morrigan/Dragon + inquisition forces weaken Corypheus, leaving him open for Inquisitor to finish him off. This is canon in every playthrough, Inquisitor always gets the killing blow. Earlier in the game, an inexperienced Inquisitor can not stand up to Corypheus and the fake archdemon alone. An experienced Inquisitor can use the Rift to do some really powerful stuff, this is canon, regardless of how strong you want to headcanon your warden and hawke. He takes this above swordfights and magic in to something larger and more primal. Who is the better mage, fist fighter, sword fighter of the three? Who knows. Evidence would point to...

 

Hawke has one solo accomplishment of defeating Arishok in combat, which the CG trailer show to be far more interesting than how the actual video game system presents it. Hawke fought a weakened Corypheus with a small party and defeated him without any armies or rifts, but did not kill him. Inquisitor had knowledge, tools and time, Hawke didn't. He also took down a rampaging horde of qunari with a small group of friends but Meredith is generally given as a community effort from a larger group of people. 

 

So i would say, Hawke is the guy who is gonna win a fair fight (because he has, single handedly, against an experienced and battle trained Qunari leader.)  but he's not gonna do much against a rift or an archdemon besides slow it down. The arishok fight is also optional, if he isn't killed, the best thing Hawke did was stop the qunari hoard and the rest was mostly political. He has an option to possibly be dead. If he walks away from that nightmare demon and returns to us in the future, he is one BAMF. :/ A lot of his story is told to us by Varric so he could be weaker, he could be stronger. We don't know.

 

Warden's the guy you'll want to call for a Ferelden crisis because he is a figurehead, but beyond that he's only as strong as you wish him to be, since his non political accomplishments are all way too optional. If he did everything himself he's a powerful hero but theres too many variables and a chance that he can walk out doing barely anything beyond being a figurehead. Plus he can be 100% confirmed dead and no competition. I can headcanon him as the fastest, strongest, smartest, most powerful human in the world but it doesn't really mean much to anyone but me. 

 

Inquisitor has access to a kind of raw power that pretty much trumps anything it's come up against. His magical and physical strength, like wardens, is going to be up to your ability to uplay or downplay it. A lot of Inquisitors fame, again, is political but he is renown for being part of an efficient strike team that always achieves victory and never loses men. He has the option to drink from the well giving him access to a great deal of knowledge. He is dominating both the battlefield and the political world and so far there is no way to kill him off. =I

 

So toooo many variables to say who is what here but Inquisitor is looking to be in a different league. I say screw it all and lets have all 3 on the same side. What a team.

[Zlykebab]

Cory2*< Cory2. Now comparing Cory1 to Cory2*. Again Cory2's power was split so that's why, even though not at full I'd say Cory1>Cory2*.

 

So Cory1>Cory2*, Hawke> Cory1, Inky>Cory2*. Now the real Archdemon(Old God and all, see above) is more powerful than Corypheus, so Ademon>Cory2, that means that Warden+army+allies>Ademon+army, so Warden>Ademon-allies. Now the question: Is Ademon-allies, greater or lower than Cory1? And by how much? Bear in mind this is a very simple estimation, it doesn't take into consideration so many factors like, strategy, experience and such. That's why I'm still puzzled about the "who is more powerful" matter.

No, no, no, Cory2*>Cory1, cuz' Cory1 has survived beeing slain (have better word?) by Hawke, due to part of his soul in dragon. That means that Cory's soul was splited before he got his orb, with which he's far more powerful than in 'Legacy'. And we have to remember, that Warden's allies depends on player, so some badass guy could defeat archdemon on his own, without armies.

[Snowy-Ninja]

i do not agree if you mean permanent resources.

The Inquisitor resources are destinated to be  lost after his adventure(especially one dread wolf) ,even the others allies,while the Warden if ruler still maintain power over an entire nation for life.

 

Should have been clearer sorry, I meant where all the heros are currently at at the end of DAI. Its possible that a certain dread wolf may want to tear down the Inquisition but honestly I don't think he would. Guess we will have to wait for this rumoured DLC and DA4 to see what the dread wolf does and what power the next hero will have. 

[Lazengan]

The one who is more powerful is which ever your self insert fanfic says is more powerful

The point being: It's an endless debate on mindless relativity 

[Zlykebab]

I've made my point about solo fight, but many of you also talk about forces and friends. I won't be worse

In my opinion: Inquisitor = Warden > Hawke

That's true that at the end of DAI Orlesian wardens have mess, but warden commands Fereldan wardens. And also king Alistair is one of Warden's best friends.
Now, let's take look at the Inquisition. They are major force of southern thedas. But who's one of two founders of the Inquisition? Leliana another of Warden's friends (or even lover). On her place, who would you support? Some random person who you know not even for a year, or (as she claims before battle of Denerim) your best friend who you know ten times longer? I think the answer is clear. Also Morrigan is an important member of Inquisition. It depending who drank from the well of sorrows, she could have power to open another breach. And she's another Warden's friend or even mother of his son.

Ok, so Inquisitor forces = Inquisition army, Orlesian army, Rebel Mages/Templars.   Warden's forces = Fereldan army, Fereldan Grey Wardens, Blight-busting army from Battle of Denerim and possibly Architect and his buddies.
I'm not certain who would support Orlesian Wardens, Fereldan Commander of the Grey or Inquisitor, so I won't count them here.

And Hawke? Hawke has only their friends and no army.

[Jester]

Ok, so Inquisitor forces = Inquisition army, Orlesian army, Rebel Mages/Templars.   Warden's forces = Fereldan army, Fereldan Grey Wardens, Blight-busting army from Battle of Denerim and possibly Architect and his buddies.
I'm not certain who would support Orlesian Wardens, Fereldan Commander of the Grey or Inquisitor, so I won't count them here.

And Hawke? Hawke has only their friends and no army.

Inquisitor's forces:

- Spy network rivaling Ben-Hassrath

- "Army rivalling that of any nation"

- Entire Orlesian army and like half of Orlesian nobles in his pocket

- What remains of Orlesian Wardens (it's not a matter of support, they have no leadership and are basically conscripted into Inquisition)

- Contacts all over the world - Magisters of Tevinter, nobles in Nevarra and Ferelden, good standing with the Crows and some Antivan nobles, Ben-Hassrath...

- Support of the Divine (Inquisitor's close ally or a lover)

- Mages or Templars

 

Honestly, when it comes to commanding forces, there's no competition. 

It's not even a question if the Inquisitor is more powerful, or the Warden. It's a question of whether there is a single person in the entire world, who has more power than politically shrewd Inqusitior. 

BioWare has to somehow get rid of him, either in the next game or before the next game takes place.

 

A Warden they could get rid of, because apart from one country's Grey Wardens and Amaranthine, he commands nothing. Fareldan army belongs to the King/Queen, Blight army scattered after Blight has ended etc.

Inquisitor is left as a leader of the most powerful organization in Thedas, with ties to Sunburst Throne and Orlesian Throne, among others.

 

Assassination? Fall from grace? Mark loses stability and kills him? Whatever, he cannot be kept alive (or at least in power), because it creates to much of a power imbalance in the world.

 

So, it would probably go like that:

Inquisitor >>>>>>>>>>Warden >>Hawke.

 

The first one is riddiculously powerful (easily equal or better than Alistair/Anora, Archon of Tevinter or Qunari Triumvirate - no ruler of Orlais here, because in "full power scenario" they sit in his pocket), Warden commanded one arling and rebuilding Grey Wardens at the peak of his power, and Hawke commanded one city at the peak of his power.   

[JadeDragon]

Inquisitor's forces:

- Spy network rivaling Ben-Hassrath

- "Army rivalling that of any nation"

- Entire Orlesian army and like half of Orlesian nobles in his pocket

- What remains of Orlesian Wardens (it's not a matter of support, they have no leadership and are basically conscripted into Inquisition)

- Contacts all over the world - Magisters of Tevinter, nobles in Nevarra and Ferelden, good standing with the Crows and some Antivan nobles, Ben-Hassrath...

- Support of the Divine (Inquisitor's close ally or a lover)

- Mages or Templars

 

Honestly, when it comes to commanding forces, there's no competition. 

It's not even a question if the Inquisitor is more powerful, or the Warden. It's a question of whether there is a single person in the entire world, who has more power than politically shrewd Inqusitior. 

BioWare has to somehow get rid of him, either in the next game or before the next game takes place.

 

A Warden they could get rid of, because apart from one country's Grey Wardens and Amaranthine, he commands nothing. Fareldan army belongs to the King/Queen, Blight army scattered after Blight has ended etc.

Inquisitor is left as a leader of the most powerful organization in Thedas, with ties to Sunburst Throne and Orlesian Throne, among others.

 

Assassination? Fall from grace? Mark loses stability and kills him? Whatever, he cannot be kept alive (or at least in power), because it creates to much of a power imbalance in the world.

 

So, it would probably go like that:

Inquisitor >>>>>>>>>>Warden >>Hawke.

 

The first one is riddiculously powerful (easily equal or better than Alistair/Anora, Archon of Tevinter or Qunari Triumvirate - no ruler of Orlais here, because in "full power scenario" they sit in his pocket), Warden commanded one arling and rebuilding Grey Wardens at the peak of his power, and Hawke commanded one city at the peak of his power.   

the spymaster is possibly the wardens love interest soooo that spy network deal would not work because since she knows the ins and outs of the network that could be used against the Inquisitor if the Warden desires. Also possible divine so that is neutral. Fereldan Army belongs to the crown just like Orlais Army belongs to the crown. Considering they have not forgotten the HoF and since you decide who wears the crown it is safe to assume They would come to the Warden's aid before the Inquisitors. Also Orlais judging from the epilogue does not seem as loyal to the inquisition as a whole then fereldan is to the warden. Also the wardens in orlais would more then likely back the HoF before the Inquisitor sure the Inquisiton helped them out big time but they swore a oath to there order and even if they dont get along with Anderfels Wardens that is not the HoF who is currently the only living warden to slay a archdemon so that fame would inspire warden support 100%. So I would say they Inquisitor=Warden Army wise. Many people from dwarves to mages to elves respect the warden because even though the warden had treaties they helped them with there problems. Throw in Orzammar since we decided there crown to which could possibly include golems. The werewolves if the warden went that route would show loyality still being the first person to treat them with respect. Politically The Inquisitor may have better skills but you have to remember The Warden is not your average hero there fame and tale from the time period from Origins to Inquisition makes them a legend beyond the Wardens since the Blight has always been the biggest threat to thedas up until the breach. So i find it not impossible but extremely hard for the Inquisitor to convince all of there allies to go against the warden, most would remain neutral in the situation outside of the main allies. The crows who the warden has worked for in the past and failed to kill twice would remain neutral more then likely and if not zeveran who seems to be giving them a hard time would take care of them before they even get close. And since the inquisitor would have 2 out of the 3 advisers thats a bigger cripple then one would think. The Inquisition is only as powerful as there allies allow them to be. And if we are adding other nations I am sure the wardens from every nation maybe except Anderfels would jump to the HoF side especially if they end up curing the calling. The Arishok personally has respect for the warden which seems alot more important then a Qun elf spy giving you the same title a military leader personally gave you so again another neutral party. So it is going to always be even between the two with Hawke being the odd one out.

[Lady Ishtar]

Knowing comparing gameplay and combat effectiveness is completely insane and that only lore matters...
As far as I know Arch Demon > Any other high dragon and even Corypheus Blight Dragon, it is a corrupted old god, so I'm guessing we are talking about ancient dragons powered by the blight.
I don't think the Inquisitor even faced any darkspawn as strong as those insane Ogres we fight in Awakening. The Architect and the Mother are probably Corypheus level, I'm guessing they are even stronger, at least the Architect since he seems to be more in control of his sanity and his powers, I'm betting serenity and control beats tantrum when it comes to Ancient Magister comparison.
I sincerely doubt anything in Thedas is feared as much as an Archdemon. Corypheus worshipped an Archdemon, he is not above them.

[Zlykebab]

 The Arishok personally has respect for the warden which seems alot more important then a Qun elf spy giving you the same title a military leader personally gave you so again another neutral party. So it is going to always be even between the two with Hawke being the odd one out.

One more thing about Arishok: according to BioWare canon after Arishok's death in DA2 Sten became the new Arishok. Yes, the same Sten from DAO, Warden's companion. So who would support Antaam and Ben-Hassrath?

[Zlykebab]

Inquisitor is nothing without their advisors. Leliana and Cassandra created the Inquisition. Thanks to Leliana (and indirectly Warden) Inquisitor could recruit mages or templars. Inquisitor's role in this was only to kill few Venatori or Red Templars and say to mages/templars somthing like "Join us, we're cool". Thanks to Josephine Inquisitor could get into Halamshiral. And again, slay Venatori and hang around in the Winter Palace (thanks to Morrigan, who gave Inquisitor the key to service quaters). Adamant? Cullen and Josephine did almost everything, and Inquisitor - again, just killing. Arbor Wilds? Killing, killing and more killling. So, inquisition can be lead by any famous person, who can kill. Thad could be Warden or Hawke, the same effect. Inquisitor was useful in sealing the breach, nothing more.
Warden himself gathered an anti-blight army to stop archdenon, none was dealing with the dirty work for him.

[Big I]

Max level for the Warden is 35. Hawke doesn't have a max level, but without glitches there isn't enough xp in DA2 and it's DLC to get beyond level 30 or 31. Inquisitor level cap is 27. So:

 

1. The Warden (most powerful)

2. The Champion

3. The Inquisitor (least powerful)

[Nixou]

The Warden.

It's a narrative thing, really: DA2's theme is about being powerless before History's inertia, no matter how individually strong, wealthy and charismatic one is; Inquisition is at least as much about the organization itself than its leader, and the game keep reminding the player that it's Cullen, Leliana and Josephine's work behind the scenes that make the Inquisition successful; while Origins is a straight-up power fantasy, where the protagonists and her tiny band of companions win because she's just that powerful.

 

Yes, I'm repeating myself.

[Aren]

 

 

Alone, neither Warden nor Inquisitor have actual solo achievements as far as the story goes, unless your Warden died fighting the archdemon. ie. landed the killing blow and accomplished that by themselves, although Riordan weakened it and it's generally assumed that the party and armies helped also, but the sacrifice is optional. If he survived killing it, it is because Morrigan saved him.

 

Not exactly Riordan injured the AD,but tainted creatures recover very quickly(codex of DAo) and the AD was still capable to fly when you fight him,also Morrigan didn't save the warden against the AD,she only prevented the final soul clashing,but it is the warden who defeated him,Morrigan didnt do anything in the battle in my game.

If another (Loghain/alistair )killed him it doesn't matter as at that point is the warden who defeated the AD they just absorb his essence to save the warden,the AD is defeated the only problem is to deal with his essence.

But warden experience depend mostly on players,my solo the AD

(without companions in Denerim,1 vs them all on nightmare)

also killed mother and the architect and Flemeth,and so yes i do consider him to be a sort of unrealistic killing machine.

[Aren]

Inquisitor's forces:

- Spy network rivaling Ben-Hassrath

- "Army rivalling that of any nation"

- Entire Orlesian army and like half of Orlesian nobles in his pocket

- What remains of Orlesian Wardens (it's not a matter of support, they have no leadership and are basically conscripted into Inquisition)

- Contacts all over the world - Magisters of Tevinter, nobles in Nevarra and Ferelden, good standing with the Crows and some Antivan nobles, Ben-Hassrath...

- Support of the Divine (Inquisitor's close ally or a lover)

- Mages or Templars

 

Honestly, when it comes to commanding forces, there's no competition. 

It's not even a question if the Inquisitor is more powerful, or the Warden. It's a question of whether there is a single person in the entire world, who has more power than politically shrewd Inqusitior. 

BioWare has to somehow get rid of him, either in the next game or before the next game takes place.

 

A Warden they could get rid of, because apart from one country's Grey Wardens and Amaranthine, he commands nothing. Fareldan army belongs to the King/Queen, Blight army 

This is the problem of the Inquisition their forces are not permanent,they have contacts,many contacts but post breach they will not have those resources anymore,they have allies but the inquisitor is not a ruler of anything.

The Warden on the other hands can be depend on choice a king

For Queen Cousland you have to share power with AListair who have a strong claim on the throne and good reputation because he was there with you during the blight,for King Cousland you have Anora who is a great queen but without a strong legitimacy and that is the daughter of a former traitor,so with a King you have complete control over a nation in this scenario

 

The Warden.

It's a narrative thing, really: DA2's theme is about being powerless before History's inertia, no matter how individually strong, wealthy and charismatic one is; Inquisition is at least as much about the organization itself than its leader, and the game keep reminding the player that it's Cullen, Leliana and Josephine's work behind the scenes that make the Inquisition successful; while Origins is a straight-up power fantasy, where the protagonists and her tiny band of companions win because she's just that powerful.

 

Yes, I'm repeating myself.

This very much this,the narrative of DAO is about an unrealistic killing machine called the Warden.

DAII failed in this approach,because at time Hawke is someone who can't do anything against the events,see she need Flemeth help to escape from Ferelden,she can't stop Anders,Isabela the war in act 3 ec or save her mother and one of the siblings

However outside of the main story hawke is unstoppable,killing dragons,ancient demons ecc.

SO i believe that there is a strong disconnection in the way in which the story is developed.

DAI is more about the organization rather than the Inquisitor,Leliana,Cullen and Josephine are doing the work for you.

[D_Schattenjager]

How does IQ have the strongest force in southern Thedas? 

-- 2/3 Divines restore Templar Order. Those who remain with IQ will only be a % of the that and there is a good possibility that some of them may become Seekers.

-- Some Mage organization is always created

-- Wardens of South are having a political war with Weisshaupt no matter which option you choose

So technically, the guaranteed military strength of IQ are the various irregulars & mercenary bands plus free volunteers. This hardly makes them strongest force.

 

IQ is essentially a banding of like-minded free thinkers who banded together for greater good. Doesn't the original IQ disband once order is restored. This one also will. The fate of previous Quizzy also potentially shows that current Quizzy can be moved out if needed

 

Warden & Hawke both are better in solo than Quizzy.  Warden can survive Fade on solo. Origins has several more moments where you are solo. Hawke takes down Arishok in single combat. Quizzy doesn't have even one solo battle. 

[Zlykebab]

 

Warden & Hawke both are better in solo than Quizzy.  Warden can survive Fade on solo. Origins has several more moments where you are solo. Hawke takes down Arishok in single combat. Quizzy doesn't have even one solo battle. 

And Warden solo defeats Loghain, experienced and battle-trained soldier.

[GoldenGail3]

Warden. I'm sorry Treveylan.