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[dantares83]

it is quite clear the Inquisitor is the most powerful.

 

countries are in fact so scared of it, they are calling for it to be disband.

 

the Warden does not have an army and although he can recruit anyone but only in time of blight (meaning he has no army except a small bunch of wardens as he is still warden-commander).

 

if Hawke is Viscount, he potentially could have the army of Kirkwall at his disposal but he has since relinquished that position. If he is not, he is just an ordinary guy. He has minimal political power and people are always going to link him to the start of mage-templar war because Anders was in fact his companion at one time (can even be lover)

 

The inquisitor has powerful armies, fortress, skyhold, and what's not under his disposal. Allying with the Divine (the only possible one to ally with all three while the warden can only ally with Leliana) already made him a formidable foes. More than half of Thedas are Andrastian and so that would meant immense power and influence. 

 

However, if talk about raw power, I believe the Warden is most powerful, followed closely by the inquisitor and then Hawke, 

 

but political power beats raw power anytime so Inquisitor is the most powerful overall. 

[JadeDragon]

By the end of the Inquisitors story they are not the overall most powerful that goes to the warden. and before the end game Warden and Inquisitor overall maybe equal. The Warden's personal political power gave him more leverage then your average warden but seeing what happens to the Inquisitors at the end we see why that route was never taken. The Warden is a hero to his country in there darkest hour so thats a political tally you can take from the Inquisitor as far as army goes.

[Aren]

it is quite clear the Inquisitor is the most powerful.

countries are in fact so scared of it, they are calling for it to be disband.

the Warden does not have an army and although he can recruit anyone but only in time of blight (meaning he has no army except a small bunch of wardens as he is still warden-commander)

This obviously does not take into account that the Inquisition is gone or under the Divine after Trespasser and of those warden who are part of the crown

[M-Priest01]

Personally, I think Hawke beats them both. depending on whichever class (Warrior, Rouge, or Mage), he/she has more skills readily at their disposal skill-tree-wise. Things like firestorm & haste (mage-fan), doesn't need to focus for it & if you put your points in right, he/she basically commands the elements of the heavens & the earth, as well as the elements of fire & ice and even as a mage, he/she can beat enemies with a staff if they get too close rather than stubbornly sticking to spells like the others do. Varic has even described mage Hawke as an archmage like no other (again, mage fan).

 

For the rogue class (my second favourite) Hawke seemed to be much faster, sneakier, & deadlier than the remaining 2 (except maybe the tempest class) & it annoyed me that hail of arrows became focus (used to combine firestorm, tempest & HOA in DA2) and his backstab basically meant "no matter how far you are, am a get to you, fast"

 

(Sorry, never played warrior class)

 

Anchor aside (cus inquisitor will eventually lose it), and bolstered physicality aside from the taint (you can still kill greywardens), Hawke is more versatile.

 

But, just my opinion...

[Neophyte]

If we're talking power? well how strong is the inquisitor without the mark, he's a leader sure but that's what he was made to be, and does he disband or keep the inquisition in the end? I can see a rogue like character disbanding and working in the shadows, gives him more points on personal power, while keeping inquisition makes him more of a leader, which is how I imagine him to be.

 

It all depends though on what you're talking about, political power? personal strength? etc.

 

Also the Warden can be a blood mage, has way more experience, Avernus?, and he killed flemeth, solo fade.. plus lots of other **** I forgot.

Another Argument can be made that Inquisitor beat Corypheus, and Solas mentions that he never thought that a Tevinter Mage could unlock the orbs full power, so is Corypheus >= Solas? or maybe close.. and Inquisitor beat Corypheus, but now he's without the mark so.. 

Overall I wouldn't compare them, but:

I'd go with Warden to win any 1 on 1.

Inquisitor wins the overall political power thing, but he had a lot of help if you remember, the warden? Barely.
and Hawke is basically Jack Sparrow, so you can probably get him out of the way but SOMEHOW he still lives.

[KaiserShep]

Personally, I think Hawke beats them both. depending on whichever class (Warrior, Rouge, or Mage), he/she has more skills readily at their disposal skill-tree-wise. Things like firestorm & haste (mage-fan), doesn't need to focus for it & if you put your points in right, he/she basically commands the elements of the heavens & the earth, as well as the elements of fire & ice and even as a mage, he/she can beat enemies with a staff if they get too close rather than stubbornly sticking to spells like the others do. Varic has even described mage Hawke as an archmage like no other (again, mage fan).

 

For the rogue class (my second favourite) Hawke seemed to be much faster, sneakier, & deadlier than the remaining 2 (except maybe the tempest class) & it annoyed me that hail of arrows became focus (used to combine firestorm, tempest & HOA in DA2) and his backstab basically meant "no matter how far you are, am a get to you, fast"

 

 

Rogue Hawke is basically a supermurderninja that can mince baddies like a hibachi chef on fast forward. 

[GoldenGail3]

Rogue Hawke is basically a supermurderninja that can mince baddies like a hibachi chef on fast forward.

All of my Hawkes were mages...

[Donquijote and 59 others]

My US envy demon DAA warden is the best of them all

[GoldenGail3]

My US evny demon DAA warden is the best of them all

Is this a joke, or are you actually being serious?

[Flaine1996]

Going to take a shot at this if I haven't responded to this thread yet on the terms of raw power my mage!inquisitor would definitely win, if it would come to a hand to hand fight toss up between my warden and hawke; terms of speed my dual weilding warden and in terms of brute strength 2handed warrior hawke...

[Donquijote and 59 others]

Is this a joke, or are you actually being serious?

What joke i used the warden in DAA despite it was dead for the ultimate sacrifice,only reason it is because it was an envy demon of the baroness who mimed the warden

[GoldenGail3]

What joke i used the warden in DAA despite it was dead for the ultimate sacrifice,only reason it is because it was an envy demon of the baroness who mimed the warden

Ohhh, well my HOF is okay. So there's that.

[Kalecgos]

how is this even up to debate? you guys are overrating inquisitor's anchor, sure it can kill hawke and the warde, but that same feat can be also achieved with an arrow to the head, a sword to the neck, or a fireball to the face... which the other 2 can aslo do to the inquisitor.... 

 

i mean we can even see who's stronger in the calibre of opponents they've fought(flemeth,archedemon, architect).... only the warden was able to beat a god....inquisitor's final boss corypherous, is nothing copared to an old god even in his final moments he was begging an old god for power.... and the warden has fought the architect who's basically like corypherus in title

 

Warden>Inquisitor>Hawke

[Inkvisiittori]

Bah, the Architect is nothing compared to Corypheus. He was never that powerful. Defeating an old god is not all that special either - many Warden's have done it before (though only few have actually succeeded in killing them permanently). It's not as unique as defeating Corypheus, his red lyrium dragon and don't forget - Hakkon Wintersbreath himself...

 

I say Inquisitor is the most powerful of the three. She has the anchor, as well as powerful magic, knowledge of the Well of Sorrows and she can control dragons. Her influence is felt all over Thedas. She is worshiped by thousands who believe she's Andraste's Herald. There will be golden statues raised in her honor and new verses added to the Chant of Light. She has strong connection and allies in the most powerful institutes of Thedas - Chantry, University of Orlais, Grey Wardens, Council of Heralds, etc... Orlais, Ferelden, Orzimmar, Nevarra, Tevinter - all are indebted to her. The entire world is indebted to her since without her it would have been destroyed. Even after losing the anchor and disbanding the Inquisition she is still one of the most powerful people of Thedas. She has the most powerful allies too - Cassandra Pentaghast princess of Nevarra, Divine Victoria, Varric Tethras Viscount of Kirkwall, magister Dorian Pavus, Fen'Harel... 

 

In my mind there is no doubt who is the most powerful. 

[Pavan]

The Warden Killed an Archdemon - greatest foe in any of the games imo - yes he had an army backing him up,  but it seems some of you are forgetting, so did the Archdemon, even during the final boss fight, it still has darkspawn pouring out as backup. So really the armies cancel each other out making it Warden vs Archdemon.

 

Hawke beat Coryphyeus - weakest of the 3 and my least favourite

 

 

Inquisitor Beat Coryphyeus and his pet - Without the Anchor, Warden definitley wins, with the anchor its very close (My warden is always a Reaver + Berserker so even if he gets hit with a rift, as long as he lands a hit on the Inquisitor before the rift kills him he could still win (closer to death = way more damage) and then just use devour to heal up ) but that is a big IF.

Also lets not forget, its notlike the Inquisitor can just spam multiple rifts whenever he wants. They take their toll (if he misses or if the Warden somehow avoids/survives it, it will be a little while before he can do it again) At which point the Warden would win.

 

 

Either way Warden is my favourite

[Kalecgos]

Bah, the Architect is nothing compared to Corypheus. He was never that powerful. Defeating an old god is not all that special either - many Warden's have done it before (though only few have actually succeeded in killing them permanently). It's not as unique as defeating Corypheus, his red lyrium dragon and don't forget - Hakkon Wintersbreath himself...

 

I say Inquisitor is the most powerful of the three. She has the anchor, as well as powerful magic, knowledge of the Well of Sorrows and she can control dragons. Her influence is felt all over Thedas. She is worshiped by thousands who believe she's Andraste's Herald. There will be golden statues raised in her honor and new verses added to the Chant of Light. She has strong connection and allies in the most powerful institutes of Thedas - Chantry, University of Orlais, Grey Wardens, Council of Heralds, etc... Orlais, Ferelden, Orzimmar, Nevarra, Tevinter - all are indebted to her. The entire world is indebted to her since without her it would have been destroyed. Even after losing the anchor and disbanding the Inquisition she is still one of the most powerful people of Thedas. She has the most powerful allies too - Cassandra Pentaghast princess of Nevarra, Divine Victoria, Varric Tethras Viscount of Kirkwall, magister Dorian Pavus, Fen'Harel... 

 

In my mind there is no doubt who is the most powerful. 

how is that nothing? the architect and corypheus both hold the same title... the only reason corypherus' ahead of him was the red lyrium.... also you're funny thinking an old god servant(corypherus) is ahead of an old god itself..... even in the finale your corypherus was begging an old god for power, that alone is proof that old gods>>> cory.... 

 

first of all does the inquisitor still has the anchor?... s/he got his/her left hand, the one where the anchor is located, amputated.

secondly the anchor isn't really anything special in the fight because a simple arrow to the head will produce the same feat as the anchor, which both hawke and warden can achieve.

thirdly the anchor causes EXTREME pain, so that alone will destroy the inquisitor's focus in the fight... and once he misses with the spell s/he's as good as dead.

fourthly warden has the power of blood power up, that alone put's him ahead of both hawke and inquisitor in a plain brawl

 

also what does having knowledge of the well of sorrows do in combat?....

 

talk to me once the inquisitor has wrecking an old god under his belt

[Addictress]

Lemme put it another way...

The only thing Corypheus needed to become a god, destroy the world and invade heaven was the anchor. The anchor that's permanently a part of the Inquisitor.

Um.....did you play the DLC?

[Kalecgos]

The Warden Killed an Archdemon - greatest foe in any of the games imo - yes he had an army backing him up,  but it seems some of you are forgetting, so did the Archdemon, even during the final boss fight, it still has darkspawn pouring out as backup. So really the armies cancel each other out making it Warden vs Archdemon.

 

Hawke beat Coryphyeus - weakest of the 3 and my least favourite

 

 

Inquisitor Beat Coryphyeus and his pet - Without the Anchor, Warden definitley wins, with the anchor its very close (My warden is always a Reaver + Berserker so even if he gets hit with a rift, as long as he lands a hit on the Inquisitor before the rift kills him he could still win (closer to death = way more damage) and then just use devour to heal up ) but that is a big IF.

Also lets not forget, its notlike the Inquisitor can just spam multiple rifts whenever he wants. They take their toll (if he misses or if the Warden somehow avoids/survives it, it will be a little while before he can do it again) At which point the Warden would win.

 

 

Either way Warden is my favourite

there's also the burden of extreme pain the inquisitor was suffering from merely having the anchor in him/her.... that alone disrupts his/her focus in the fight, so him/her missing is a big possibility.

 

also i don't see what's the big deal with the archon... anyone of these guy will die from a sword to the neck, arrow to the head etc.... anyone of these guys can one shot the other... and with the power of blood the warden is ahead from anyone of these guys

[Navoletti]

the warden have more balls of the inquisitor and have a order..the warden have taint and is unstopable..the inquisitor is only a ordinry charácter that only for have a power in the hand is called herald of andraste...if you delete the power of the herald he is nothing.

[Inkvisiittori]

how is that nothing? the architect and corypheus both hold the same title... the only reason corypherus' ahead of him was the red lyrium.... also you're funny thinking an old god servant(corypherus) is ahead of an old god itself..... even in the finale your corypherus was begging an old god for power, that alone is proof that old gods>>> cory.... 

 

first of all does the inquisitor still has the anchor?... s/he got his/her left hand, the one where the anchor is located, amputated.

secondly the anchor isn't really anything special in the fight because a simple arrow to the head will produce the same feat as the anchor, which both hawke and warden can achieve.

thirdly the anchor causes EXTREME pain, so that alone will destroy the inquisitor's focus in the fight... and once he misses with the spell s/he's as good as dead.

fourthly warden has the power of blood power up, that alone put's him ahead of both hawke and inquisitor in a plain brawl

 

also what does having knowledge of the well of sorrows do in combat?....

 

talk to me once the inquisitor has wrecking an old god under his belt

 

What's so special about these "old gods" anyway? They are just dragons, there is nothing godly about them. Anyone can defeat them (but only a Warden can kill them permanently). How many high dragons did the Warden defeat? Maybe three at best? Inquisitor defeated 10 'normal' high dragons + red lyrium dragon + Hakkon + (possibly) Ataashi.

 

She can use the knowledge of the Well to summon and control dragons. That's much more useful in combat than power of the blood. Plus if the Warden is searching for a cure for the taint does that mean they will lose their special Warden powers? Also, about the Warden "killing an Old God"... either he dies while doing so or if he survives it's only thanks to Morrigan, so...

 

Corypheus begged Dumat, not Urthemiel. Dumat was the most powerful Old God and Corypheus was his most loyal servant. The Architect is not powerful at all, he is clever, but weak. Inquisitor has killed 2 "gods" already and done something that no one else could ever accomplish. If she still has the anchor she can physically enter the Fade and open rifts at will. The Warden is good, but he is only a Grey Warden. How can you really even compare them? Inquisitor lives in a palace called Skyhold, she has allies and friends all over Thedas, she commands an army of the faithful, her least whisper can end wars or overthrow rulers. What about the Warden? He has powerful blood magic & power of the blood, but beyond that he still probably sleeps in that same old camp, the only people loyal to him are the people of Ferelden and the Grey Wardens (who might be exiled!)...

 

The Anchor was the reason why Inquisitor became as powerful as she is. But it's not the only reason. The Warden was only important because they became a Grey Warden and stopped the Blight. Even without the Anchor the Inquisitor is still more powerful than him. If she had been able to keep the Anchor and Orb of Fen'Harel then it was implied she could have entered the Black City and become a God. Even without the Anchor she still has the knowledge of the Well of Sorrows - and knowledge is true power. 

[Pavan]

there's also the burden of extreme pain the inquisitor was suffering from merely having the anchor in him/her.... that alone disrupts his/her focus in the fight, so him/her missing is a big possibility.

 

also i don't see what's the big deal with the archon... anyone of these guy will die from a sword to the neck, arrow to the head etc.... anyone of these guys can one shot the other... and with the power of blood the warden is ahead from anyone of these guys

 

 

Add to that burden - the aura of pain caused by a reaver warden and the Inquisitor could end up crippled before the Warden even strikes

 

Not to mention my Warden drank the vial - so as a warrior he has the blood thirst ability - which gives increased speed and strength, combined with the taint, making the Warden physically faster and stronger and more ferocious than any humanoid we have seen in the games so far 

 

- so it is even more likely that the Warden could simply dodge the rift attack then slice the inquisitors head off with his great sword   XP

 

 

My warden is basically Guts from the anime/manga berserk

[Kalecgos]

What's so special about these "old gods" anyway? They are just dragons, there is nothing godly about them. Anyone can defeat them (but only a Warden can kill them permanently). How many high dragons did the Warden defeat? Maybe three at best? Inquisitor defeated 10 'normal' high dragons + red lyrium dragon + Hakkon + (possibly) Ataashi.

 

She can use the knowledge of the Well to summon and control dragons. That's much more useful in combat than power of the blood. Plus if the Warden is searching for a cure for the taint does that mean they will lose their special Warden powers? Also, about the Warden "killing an Old God"... either he dies while doing so or if he survives it's only thanks to Morrigan, so...

 

Corypheus begged Dumat, not Urthemiel. Dumat was the most powerful Old God and Corypheus was his most loyal servant. The Architect is not powerful at all, he is clever, but weak. Inquisitor has killed 2 "gods" already and done something that no one else could ever accomplish. If she still has the anchor she can physically enter the Fade and open rifts at will. The Warden is good, but he is only a Grey Warden. How can you really even compare them? Inquisitor lives in a palace called Skyhold, she has allies and friends all over Thedas, she commands an army of the faithful, her least whisper can end wars or overthrow rulers. What about the Warden? He has powerful blood magic & power of the blood, but beyond that he still probably sleeps in that same old camp, the only people loyal to him are the people of Ferelden and the Grey Wardens (who might be exiled!)...

 

The Anchor was the reason why Inquisitor became as powerful as she is. But it's not the only reason. The Warden was only important because they became a Grey Warden and stopped the Blight. Even without the Anchor the Inquisitor is still more powerful than him. If she had been able to keep the Anchor and Orb of Fen'Harel then it was implied she could have entered the Black City and become a God. Even without the Anchor she still has the knowledge of the Well of Sorrows - and knowledge is true power. 

lol you're contradicting yourself.... first line what's so strong about old gods yaddah yaddah... then next one you're accepting that dumat's above cory? and he's an old god as well....the magistres cory, architect etc.... are SERVANTS of the old gods that alone is proof that the old gods are above them....

 

rofl you're comparing a red lyrium dragon to an archdemon(chuckles)....

 

lol the fanboyism is most evident in the last lines..... the inquisitor who not only has her anchor removed, but has her left hand amputated stronger than a power of blood infused warden?... not only is the warden more experienced, and has a power of blood power up... the warden only has 1 single hand she can use to fight.....

 

lol there's no way to change a fanboy's mind.... so be it 

[BatarianBob]

Last completed playthrough, Hawke is dead and the Inquisitor lost an arm. Being an archer, she kinda needed that arm, too.

Warden by default, I guess.

[KaiserShep]

rofl you're comparing a red lyrium dragon to an archdemon(chuckles)....

 

 

Beyond the ability to command the darkspawn horde and cheat death through them, is there anything particularly special that should make an archdemon more formidable than the red lyrium dragon? Let's say that an archdemon rose from the ground and assaulted Thedas, but there was no darkspawn army. Why would it be particularly harder to deal with than the red lyrium one?

[In Exile]

Beyond the ability to command the darkspawn horde and cheat death through them, is there anything particularly special that should make an archdemon more formidable than the red lyrium dragon? Let's say that an archdemon rose from the ground and assaulted Thedas, but there was no darkspawn army. Why would it be particularly harder to deal with than the red lyrium one?

 

The official Grey Warden position is that an Archdemon is not especially hard to kill. This is straight up what Riordan tells us - Tevinter pulled it off a fair number of times, but it kept coming back.