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[Vilegrim]

politically, the inquisitor by a mile, in pure broke ass personal power the 3 specialisation Warden (Arcane Warrior, Spirit Healer, Battlemage being a personnel favourite) trumps everything unless the Inq can do that rift singularity thing at will.

[myahele]

I'd say Inquisitor due to magic hands and his\her organizations power. The the warden. Then Lol Hawke even if made viscount s/he still gets kicked out

[Vegeta 77]

Hawke beard.

[Incanus]

Personally Warden>Inquisitor>Hawke because my Warden just felt far more powerful in DAO. In my DAI he was a two-handed tank who arrived most of the time too late at the enemy before everyone in my group murdered them.

 

Is the whole rift opening ability true? I had the impression that Cory was more like a walking rift the Inquisitor "closed".

[KaiserShep]

There really is no contest. The Inquisitor beats both by a mile.

[myahele]

Yeah, the rift opening as a form of attack is canon. We see the inq. Do it in trailers, combat and now against corypheus. 

[Emonthepm]

Yeah, the rift opening as a form of attack is canon. We see the inq. Do it in trailers, combat and now against corypheus. 

 

And what good will that be against The Warden?

 

He'll go in the fade and after 1 week the fade will spit him out because the warden is killing every demon.

[KaiserShep]

And what good will that be against The Warden?

 

He'll go in the fade and after 1 week the fade will spit him out because the warden is killing every demon.

 

The Warden is just a person. If he/she is tossed into the Fade, death is certain. There's no escape unless some other powerful entity can help it, which there likely wouldn't be.

[Arl Raylen]

Hawke did some impressive things, it's just he did them at an unimpressive time/setting. I mean he soloed the Arishok in my game, took down two abominations on steroids, and then defeated Corypheus (minus dragon and elven orb).

 

Plus, unlike the Hero of Ferelden, he didn't chicken out and go try and defeat "the calling," which I know is a lame Bioware cop out but its still canon.

 

So I would say:

 

Inquisitor (endgame + well) > Inquisitor (endgame with no well) = Warden (Awakening) = Hawke (Corypheus) >> Hawke (Adamant) >> Warden (Calling)

 

I think the three most powerful iterations of each, working together, could take down current Solas/Flemeth with ease if that's a decent measuring bar.

[Taleroth]

The Warden is just a person. If he/she is tossed into the Fade, death is certain. There's no escape unless some other powerful entity can help it, which there likely wouldn't be.

That's what The First thought.

[fhs33721]

And what good will that be against The Warden?

 

He'll go in the fade and after 1 week the fade will spit him out because the warden is killing every demon.

Nope after all the demons are dead s/he'd starve to death or die of old age because one can't simply walk out of the fade.

[KaiserShep]

I can't really hold the whole Calling thing over the Warden when comparing the others, since only one of this lot is a Warden anyway. Hawke or the Inquisitor could just as well have done the same thing under those circumstances, and I wouldn't blame them, because the Calling is BS. I'd say the Warden earned a proper retirement plan.

 

Anyway, my Inquisitor's favorite hobby is hunting dragons.

 

That's what The First thought.

He wasn't the First in his class.

[Incanus]

According to dying in the rift to be certain i can only refer to the game which said at the choice if you want to leave Hawke in the fade that death is only "likely".

[Vox Draco]

My Warden: A Champion-Warrior dual-wielding magical blades, but also Queen of Ferelden

 

My Hawke: A rogue dual-wielding daggers, with not much else at her disposal despite fame, influence and lots of money

 

My Inquisitor: A mage commanding the power of fire and lightining, shattering the Earth with sheer power, and the Thedas-spanning Inquisition under her command

 

I think its the Quizzy, both in terms of politics and abilities. My Warden comes second ... then eventually Hawke

[Parallax Demon]

Give me my Hawke with all her powers (including healing) and she would decimate anything in DA:I in no time.

 

My Rift-Mage Inquisitor is doing very well, but when she met the second Giant when trying to capture a stronghold, with only two healthpotions left, she retreated. My Hawke Would have pushed forward.

[Kanejo]

The Warden: Dealed with a REAL archdemon, and flemeth, so literally he defeated 2 old gods, has an army, went to black city, and behind him is morrigan..........................so the most op is the Champion of ferelden deal with it.

 

The inquisitor become the puppet of flemeth.................

[Julia Luna]

(spoiler) In one of the investigate options in a conversation with Morrigan during DAI it is revealed that if the Inquisitor used their anchor to enter the black city then they could become a god. I think it's clear who's the most powerful (spoiler)

And I have no doubt Warden would get rid of him/her like she/he would with any god wannabe. Which part of a REAL Archdemon being a REAL powerful god you did not get? Not these boring imitations and aspirants like Corypheus and his Dragon. But screw it, whatever the creators decide that's it, so, whatever, really... after Inquisition I don't trust Bioware to make sense anymore. Yeah I don't care for lore of Western Final Fantasy anymore, goodbye o/

[KaiserShep]

There's nothing special about the archdemon, insofar that it is, essentially, just another dragon to defeat. While it's more complicated than simply slaying it, it requires no more effort to kill it beyond surviving the Joining, thereby allowing you to cancel out its soul at the cost of your own, save for a ritualistic get-out-of-death free card. The Inquisitor can kill several more dragons than either Hawke or the Warden can, and fights some of the worst the Fade has to offer. My Inquisitor also killed several giants and who knows how many pride demons.

 

As for powerful allies, it should be noted that Seekers are total badasses that are well equipped to deal with both Templars and mages, and are completely immune to possession. Cassandra can set the lyrium in one's blood aflame.

[myahele]

I like the warden the most, but when it comes to DLC many of his/her decision such as siding with Avernus, architect, for power is optional. 

 

The inquisitor will always have the anchor. And will always be alive unless a future dlc says otherwise.

[blacqout]

Mage Hawke was handed the keys to Kirkwall, despite the Knight Commander having taken the rule of the city for herself and being so crazily anti-magic.

 

That's a feat of political power that compares with commanding an army you were able to unite with ancient treaties, and leading the Inquisition because of a freak hand accident. Would the Inquisitor be able to to just strut around the Winter Palace without the Inquisition? I rather doubt it.

[MasterSolo]

Ok guys, please keep it civilized and don't insult each other. These are all opinions and speculations, I doubt any of us can clearly say which one of the three protagonists is more powerful, only the game writers can probably do that and I still think they would have to actually think about it too. So please don't be rude to each other.

 

Now my question was which of the three of them would be more powerful as single individulas, based on all their skills, experience and everything they've gained in their journeys(the ancor counts). It has to be in the respective universe and lore, with it's limitations and physics. Ingame mechanics and such, 100% dodge, 100% resistances etc, really have no place here. We can debate who is more powerful the Inquisition or the Wardens, but like I said I'm interested in the three of them as "single individuals" and not with a whole institution behind them.

 

I did enjoy some your opinions, I found them quite interesting. However...

 

Some of you were saying the Inquisitor beat Cory(which aspired to be a God)+Archdemon, so he must be the most powerful. The idea is that it was a fake Archdemon, and it had all of his power from Corypheus himself. So basically Corypheus split his power. How much of it went into the fake archdemon? Half? More than half? A third? We don't know, we can only speculate. So Inky fought Cory when he wasn't at his full power. Part of Cory's power was being held at bay by Morrigan/the Dragon.

 

Now Cory aspired to godhood, yes he was really powerful, but a real Archdemon is already a God. That's why I'd have to say and the real Archdemon is more powerful than Corypheus. Remember that Corypheus and the magisters, in their prime, bowed down to an Old God.

 

Same goes with when Corypheus, when he first woke up. How powerful was he at that point? How much of his power was he missing?

 

Speaking in mathematical terms. And remember this is all speculation, but I will try to be as accurate as possible. Let's call Corypheus from the fight with Hawke, Cory1 and Corypheus from the fight with the Inquisitor Cory2. Also I'll take out the parties of our protagonists from the equation just to make things simple. Now Cory2>Cory1 since Cory2 was at his full power plus he had the elven artifact. Cory2 split his power, so Cory2=Cory2*+fakeAdemon, again how much of his power did he put in the Ademon? I don't know, but it has to be a lot since the bastard was mostly on equal terms with a real dragon/dragon Morrigan. So the Inquisitor fought Cory2*.

Cory2*< Cory2. Now comparing Cory1 to Cory2*. Again Cory2's power was split so that's why, even though not at full I'd say Cory1>Cory2*.

 

So Cory1>Cory2*, Hawke> Cory1, Inky>Cory2*. Now the real Archdemon(Old God and all, see above) is more powerful than Corypheus, so Ademon>Cory2, that means that Warden+army+allies>Ademon+army, so Warden>Ademon-allies. Now the question: Is Ademon-allies, greater or lower than Cory1? And by how much? Bear in mind this is a very simple estimation, it doesn't take into consideration so many factors like, strategy, experience and such. That's why I'm still puzzled about the "who is more powerful" matter.

 

Also a lot of people are bringing character classes into the matter. Of course it is an important part, but comparing between them would be like comparing Kung Fu with Ju Jutsu or Taekwondo and such. In the end it all depends on the user's skill and experience.

[KaiserShep]

It's very possible that all three of them would be deadlocked in battle forever. How long can I fight myself?

[Vandicus]

We've never seen any of the characters meet their match in lore, except for possibly Hawke vs Fear demon, which the Inquisitor runs from too.

 

Also, the Archdemons we meet in Origins aren't as strong as Cory. They're just dragon, that's it. They don't have magic powers and can't wave their hand and lift cities into the air. The reason they're a big threat is twofold, the respawning, and the army of darkspawn. The killing part isn't the hard part when it comes to Archdemons, its the keeping them dead part.

 

The Old Gods could be argued to be stronger than Cory was over a thousand years ago, but we've never met the Old Gods in their original form.

[Han Master]

The inquisition can be controlled as he/she has a 50% chance of drinking from the well. Also isn't the archdeomons the old Gods corrupted.