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Who's more powerful? The Warden, Hawke or the Inquisitor?


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The inquisition can be controlled as he/she has a 50% chance of drinking from the well. Also isn't the archdeomons the old Gods corrupted.

 

Corypheus doesn't seem to regard them as such. He never goes searching for them, instead presuming them to be lost entirely when he finds Dumat not answering his prayers.



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Warden for me felt the most powerful. Only because we had templar spec available for warriors that made them powerful agaianst mages. Plus I could one shot things with archery and as a mage in the highest difficulty. No such OPness in DA2 and DA3. Hawke and InQ. Are so weak to mages its not funny.

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Corypheus doesn't seem to regard them as such. He never goes searching for them, instead presuming them to be lost entirely when he finds Dumat not answering his prayers.

Keep in mind that awakened Darkspawn can't hear the song. The Mother had the same problem.

 

Corypheus wouldn't necessarily know.


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Corypheus doesn't seem to regard them as such. He never goes searching for them, instead presuming them to be lost entirely when he finds Dumat not answering his prayers.

he is probably in denial that Dumat is dead.

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There's nothing special about the archdemon, insofar that it is, essentially, just another dragon to defeat. While it's more complicated than simply slaying it, it requires no more effort to kill it beyond surviving the Joining, thereby allowing you to cancel out its soul at the cost of your own, save for a ritualistic get-out-of-death free card. The Inquisitor can kill several more dragons than either Hawke or the Warden can, and fights some of the worst the Fade has to offer. My Inquisitor also killed several giants and who knows how many pride demons.

 

As for powerful allies, it should be noted that Seekers are total badasses that are well equipped to deal with both Templars and mages, and are completely immune to possession. Cassandra can set the lyrium in one's blood aflame.

 

According to Solas's extreme dislike with the idea of slaying the Old Gods before they can be turned I can almost bet that they are the old elven gods and the Vints just renamed them(after all the guardian of the Mythal shrine is a dragon, and Flemeth can shapeshift into a dragon). So yes I would say Archdemons being corrupted Gods that aside from the 5th blight took Wardens and entire nations banding together decades to defeat each time would be extremely powerful, moreso than Corypheus could ever be.

 

Seekers are all but wiped out, same with Templars, the only true powers would be Mages.

 

Now onto the point.

 

First Blight (800–992 TE) 192 years before ending with the death of Dumat Second Blight (1:5–95 Divine) over 10 years+ with the death of Zazikel Third Blight (3:10–25 Towers) 15 years with the death of Toth Fourth Blight (5:12–24 Exalted)  10 years+ with the death of Andoral Fifth Blight (9:30–31 Dragon) 1 year with the death of Urthemiel

 

So in a sense the Hero of Fereldan ended a blight in 1 year with just Mages/Templars, Elves/Werewolves and Dwarves from Fereldan. While the other blights took decades and entire nations.

 

I believe he/she would be more powerful than the Inquisitor in a 1 on 1 fight. Remove the hand with the mark and the Inquisitor is just a normal Warrior/Mage/Rogue.


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Keep in mind that awakened Darkspawn can't hear the song. The Mother had the same problem.

 

Corypheus wouldn't necessarily know.

 

As I understand it, the Song isn't so much a language as music, while the Old Gods actually imparted direct knowledge. I may be wrong in thinking so, but I believe the Old Gods "talked" to humans in something directly translatable, not the musical mind control used on darkspawn or wardens.



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As I understand it, the Song isn't so much a language as music, while the Old Gods actually imparted direct knowledge. I may be wrong in thinking so, but I believe the Old Gods "talked" to humans in something directly translatable, not the musical mind control used on darkspawn or wardens.

Certainly, but I can't help think they're related.



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So, we have a fight between two corpses or my inquisitor.... will admit I'm not the best player....

But i think i can take on those lifeless cadavers 


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Personally, I would say Inquistor. Got to measure power in more than just how hard one can hit things with sticks. Warden was an outcast... and only at the end, a figurehead. Hawke was a Champion, a hero, but didn't have any power beyond throwing money at those who would complain about family apostacy. (Though they did have the Viscount's ear, it is made quite clear he can't do anything the templars don't like - and they lost that when they become Champion anyway.)

 

Inquisitor has access to not only a massive force, a mighty fort, a mass of spies, and many allies across several countries... even in a person-to-person battle it's hard to argue with someone who can open up rifts inside your guts and kill you without drawing a weapon or using mana.

 

Warden vs Hawke is a little less cut-and-dry. I would probably say Warden in that case since they have access to treaties and contracts that grant them power politically, since Hawke's social/dignitary power is centralised in ONE portion of ONE city.



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Didn't warden also have the option to kill Flemeth in DAO? I'm pretty sure I killed that dragon a number of times with different PCs. 



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The Inquisitor of course, when someone tells him: "Oh yeah! You and what army?" he can simply point to them behind him


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Are you sure solas isn't the most powerful being in the thedas, possibly being a god that just absorbed the souls of two other gods. Which could mean that he can control an inquisitor that drank from the well. A lot I if and buts but yeah

Its possible, but based on what we know Solas didn't have the strength to use the orb, the Inquisitor by the end of the game strips it from Coryphetits hands and closes the breach.  But perhaps two souls can put him above the inquisitor's level.



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I think we should discuss this w/o taking into account of special power.  It's not fair for a someone with power to fight a normal guy. Also should dismiss the army since we are talking who is the strongest, not who have the bigger army. Also, the army thing wouldn't be fair for Hawke.

 

We should just talk skill-wise, who is the strongest?  



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I say it's this order:

 

Warden -> Inquisitor -> Champion

 

Now the warden may be my favorite, but that's not why I believe this and I also want to specify that this is only if you do everything in the DA:O series and expansions.

 

So to start the Warden is a Warden, tainted blood, heightened senses, all that good stuff you get for essentially giving yourself blood cancer, but the Warden could potentially even "unlock the secrets of his/her blood" in the Warden's Keep dlc where they get special and powerful abilities due to their tainted blood.  This would no doubt give them a strong advantage over others, more so then their normal Warden abilities.  Also, in a less lore specific manner, the Warden can get 4 freakin specializations, that's a rather distinct advantage over Hawke's 2 and the Inquisitor's one.

 

As for the Inquisitor, I'd say they are the strongest if the warden didn't get the special abilities, cause the Warden's other strengths are mainly focused at Darkspawn and not other people, where as the special blood abilities are a general "steroid" of their strengths.  The Inquisitor's abilities are fade focused as well, not really at other people, but as we've seen certain abilities can be gained from the fade to be used against everyone.

 

Finally the Champion, Hawke, the normal everyday leader with no special strengths besides being able to lead people for some reason.  By far the weakest of the three, sure they can get 2 specializations and the Inquisitor can only get 1, but the Inquisitor also has fade abilities which carry greater weight in a lore based position and only even out in a game based position.  Not too mention Hawke has the least amount of experience in basically everything once all the stories are through with massive amounts of down time in between their little city and forest excursions.

 

So yeah, Warden -> Inquisitor -> Champion.

 

EDIT:  I didn't mention army sizes cause that's an obvious answer to literally everyone who's played the games.  that's not longer a question of use the strongest protagonist but a question of "all of thedas, just ferelden, or some people in kirkwall."  So yeah, fi that's what you're basing your decisions on then there's no point in saying anything cause this answer is as obvious as it gets and is not what the thread is asking.



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Seriously, who belives in the maker?  :rolleyes:

 

Sera would beat them all   ^_^



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Put all 3 in a cage, no special power, no army, just their skills.  Who do you think will win?



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Seriously, who belives in the maker?  :rolleyes:

 

Sera would beat them all   ^_^

 

To answer your question:

 

Sera.



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Put all 3 in a cage, no special power, no army, just their skills.  Who do you think will win?

 

I'm sure there's a word in Orlesian for what would happen if my 3 PC's were trapped in a cage together.



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One on One combat? Inquisitor, he'd just open a rift in one of the other guys and tear them apart.

Power/Influence? Inquisitor, the Inquisition is all over Thedas with a rather large army and powerful allies.


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#171
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This thread really proves that BSN can talk endlessly about the most pointless topics, since there will never be a definite answer as we don't even know parameters of such comparison. :)



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Put all 3 in a cage, no special power, no army, just their skills.  Who do you think will win?

 

No special powers?  Even though that's kind of what defines them?  I guess at that point you'd have to look at their potential skills in their games.

 

The Warden can get a total of 4 specializations, which means trained in 4 special kinds of fighting styles, this alone gives them a strong advantage.  Not too mention with all the traveling and adventuring they did around Ferelden and the Deep Roads they'd have a lot of experience with many different kinds of foes and opponents.

 

The Champion, or Hawke, can get 2 specializations, so behind the Warden but more then the Inquisitor.  At this point we also have to take into account their lack of experience though,  they did like 3 things over the course of 10 years and all within or near the same city.  This limits their combat experience tremendously in comparison to the other two.

 

The Inquisitor can only specialize in one style of combat, giving them a distinct disadvantage on these terms when compared to the other two combatants, but at the same time they have traveled the most and fought the widest array of enemies and opponents out of the three fighters which gives them an advantage in terms of combat knowledge.

 

So my answer stays the same, warden -> inquisitor -> champion.

 

EDIT:  To make it more clear I guess I'll assign numbers to what I'm referring too from 1-3 based on their standing among the 3 fighters in both categories, 1 being the lowest and 3 being the highest.

 

Warden - Potential Skills trained - 3 

              - Combat Experience - 2

              - Overall - 5

Inquisitor - Potential Skills trained - 1

                - Combat Experience - 3

                - Overall 4

Champion - Potential Skills trained - 2

                 - Combat Experience - 1

                 - Overall - 3

 So that's my overall view.  Obviously I could go more in depth, but the more in depth I go the more these lines I've already made will show.


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#173
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One on One combat? Inquisitor, he'd just open a rift in one of the other guys and tear them apart.

 

How do you know a rift has such an impact on the organic body? You don't. Pure speculation.



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My level 35 Warden without any doubt.



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How do you know a rift has such an impact on the organic body? You don't. Pure speculation.

Didn't you see Corypheus die?