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[Damazig]

So yeah, it's been 2 weeks since the launch of the game and so far we've had Bioware acknowledge at least the several problems that affect the PC version, as we all know there are several common ones like NPCs falling from the sky (Skyrim Mammoths anyone?) and AI problems with getting stuck in caves, and not being able to switch between characters.

 

Now one has to wonder what's taking them so long, as there are plenty of games that have day one patches, or patches within 2 or 3 days.

 

So here are the things Bioware is working on, at least for the PC:

 

• Driver support
• Hitching and frame rate issues in cutscenes
• Feedback on keyboard and mouse controls
• General user interface optimizations for PC

Driver support can take some time and isn't just dependant on Bioware alone.

 

The hitching frame rate on ALL the PC versions and the 30 fps cap on cinematics, should be an important thing and quick fix, as they've had years to work with the engine, and it's a result of Consoles first PC second in my opinion.

 

Feedback on the keyboard and mouse controls along with the interface optimizations for the PC, should be something that's done very quickly as well, and is yet another clue of Consoles first PC second for the dev team. Currently there's already a guy who several days ago made a mod/cheat that allows you to zoom in and out as much as you want (but yeah there should be a limit), but I don't want to use it, since it's a cheat, I don't wan't to get flagged or banned from the game or anything like it.

 

So here's what's going on in my head in terms of why it's taking so long:

 

A ) The Frostbite engine is indeed a real pain in tha behind and is very hard to work with and or implement new stuff 

 

B ) They are trying so hard to compensate the problems that they are trying to optimize the interface and keyb/mouse interface so well, that they want a perfect patch that fixes it all in one go.

 

C ) The game did pretty well so they don't really think it's a big problem and not urgent at all, seeing it's "just" a "few" of the old school PC gamers complaining.

 

What do you guys think? 

 

Again, don't get me wrong here, I agree that there's plenty of problems with the keyboard/mouse and PC interface, but I am enjoying the game very much anyway, I've currently played 104 hours of Inquisition on hard mode with friendly fire on, and this is just myfirst  on going playthrough, I haven't finished the main campaign yet.

[pdusen]

The hitching frame rate on ALL the PC versions

 

I'm sorry, the what now?

[DemGeth]

If it's a big patch with loads of things fixed a month isn't unreasonable.


Also driver releases are a possibility.

[DemGeth]

If it's a big patch with loads of things fixed a month isn't unreasonable.


Also driver releases are a possibility.

[stevemill]

So yeah, it's been 2 weeks since the launch of the game and so far we've had Bioware acknowledge at least the several problems that affect the PC version, as we all know there are several common ones like NPCs falling from the sky (Skyrim Mammoths anyone?) and AI problems with getting stuck in caves, and not being able to switch between characters.

 

Now one has to wonder what's taking them so long, as there are plenty of games that have day one patches, or patches within 2 or 3 days.

 

So here are the things Bioware is working on, at least for the PC:

I don't mean this as a snark at all - but who are you?  how do you know what they are working on?  Like I said - no snark - genuine question.

[Greetsme]

If it's anything like Firaxis and Xcom, we will get a patch in 6 months fixing a typo and changing the color of Varrics eyes from fern green to emerald green.

 

Honestly, tiny little software publishers have a patch out within 24 hours and then daily until the problems are sorted out.  With publisher owned company's like Bioware everything is penny pinching.

Why release a patch now when we can put 50 patches into one and save two dollar fifty?

 

EA are trying to loose their crappy reputation, by giving away defunct games. I'm afraid that doesn't hack it when they pull **** like this.

[Elevon]

If it's a big patch with loads of things fixed a month isn't unreasonable.


Also driver releases are a possibility.

 

 

I always say any game that needs more then two weeks for the first patch  should of been delayed and not released to the public.

 

I can't see them fixing most issues  with one patch however,I expect at least four patches or more at some point.

Personally it would of been better for them to delay the game until sometime in December or January next year then release now and fix later.

 

I'm aware of deadlines and some things that can slip by QA  testing etc but does seem DA:I was rushed out.

[Salaya]

I'd rather had the patch already, but I understand Inquisition launch was tiresome. Also, it is a huge game.

 

I don't mind if they spend another two weeks with it if they make PC more playable, specially the tac cam.

[In Exile]

If it's anything like Firaxis and Xcom, we will get a patch in 6 months fixing a typo and changing the color of Varrics eyes from fern green to emerald green.

Honestly, tiny little software publishers have a patch out within 24 hours and then daily until the problems are sorted out. With publisher owned company's like Bioware everything is penny pinching.
Why release a patch now when we can put 50 patches into one and save two dollar fifty?

EA are trying to loose there crappy reputation, by giving away defunct games. I'm afraid that doesn't hack it when they pull **** like this.

Bioware will release a consolidated patch and a lot of it that relates to consoles requires certification.

[blussi]

 

 

Sorry about the crashes folks - I know that's frustrating. We didn't release anything today, but I'm going to check to see if any drivers got pushed out.

Our patch is coming soon and does fix some crashes along with some other fixes and general improvements.

 

From Aaryn himself, at Neogaf. 

 

http://www.neogaf.co...postcount=16982

[Elevon]

I'd rather had the patch already, but I understand Inquisition launch was tiresome. Also, it is a huge game.

 

I don't mind if they spend another two weeks with it if they make PC more playable, specially the tac cam.

 

I do beta games testing and to be fair I would of delayed DA:I if I was in charge,I'm not pointing the finger because I know they probably  have their own deadlines and conflicts within Management etc...

 

The state DA:I is in now could really of done with more time polishing and bug fixing in house before release,seems too many games are coming out like this nowadays.

[Zippy72]

I'm sure the developers are working on it and not sitting around playing Wicked Grace and getting naked.

Expecting a patch within a few days of release is just setting yourself up for disappointment imo.

[In Exile]

I do beta games testing and to be fair I would of delayed DA:I if I was in charge,I'm not pointing the finger because I know they probably have their own deadlines and conflicts within Management etc...

The state DA:I is in now could really of done with more time polishing and bug fixing in house before release,seems too many games are coming out like this nowadays.

They did delay it for a month but presumably EA was not OK with missing black Friday in the US.

[cableknitdragon]

I'd rather they take their time on releasing patches vs tossing 9000 patches out, which would be a pain for anyone other than the PC users.

 

Let's not forget Bioware needs to look at PC issues, old gen issues (PS3/360) and the new gen issues (XOne and PS4) identify the problems, see if it's fixable, troubleshoot, fix and test the snot out of it (likely a few times) and finally toss it out to the players.

 

As for games being released before polishing nowadays, get used to it. It's all about getting the money first and fixing things later /thumbs up

[Bizantura]

When the patch comes out it will adress the console problems first.  So I am not that optimistic there will be much patching for pc in the first patch.

On the other hand for me it is playable on pc with minor issues like allmost no party banter and music and yes a better optimized UI would be nice.

[Maverick827]

Doesn't BioWare usually do like one semi-big patch a little bit after release and then just ignore any issues for years

[Swordfishtrombone]

I find that most of the very quick patches are by smaller game companies, with smaller audience games, that don't need to be tested on as many different systems and setups. Because of their smaller audience, the variety of problems reported is likely to be smaller also.

 

It's the same with the recently released Civilization: Beyond Earth. In the related forum, you would hear people complaining after a few weeks that it was a travesty there wasn't a patch yet.

 

I also think that people - including game developers - need a little bit of a breather now and then too. The time before a major game release, as I understand it, is the busiest, most stressful time for the developers. Lots of long days (and perhaps nights). So I wouldn't be at all surprised if many of them took a week or so off, after release, nor would I begrudge them of such a break.

 

This is, of course, pure speculation on my part.

[ZipZap2000]

It's a big game and it's not just PC they have to look at, you'd hate for them to do an Assassins creed and create more bugs fixing the old ones right? They'll need time to figure it out and make sure it's not gonna screw up something else as well.

[Diefenbaker]

Bioware might have a fixed schedule release cycle like we do at my workplace. 2 weeks isn't a long time, remember there's development time (sometimes it takes ages to even replicate a bug, you can't fix it if you can't replicate it) and development testing time, general testing time, QA etc. If one thing goes wrong it has to be kicked back through the system again. But the thing that takes the most time is all the bureaucracy around the system. I'm sure they are working as fast as the system possibly allows them to.

[Damazig]

I don't mean this as a snark at all - but who are you?  how do you know what they are working on?  Like I said - no snark - genuine question.

I'm just a guy who reads the "News and Anouncements" part of thise forum, that has a post from a dev called PC Community Concearns" and posted those exact 4 issues he said they were working on asap.

 

Bioware will release a consolidated patch and a lot of it that relates to consoles requires certification.

So you are going with option B. Well fair enough, I just think a small patch PC side correcting at least the tac cam would be quick and painless for everyone, and would go a long way in showing they are on it, and that PC does matter a little bit for them seeing there are plenty of PC players who refunded the game or don't wan't to play it as it is, just to cam, movement and interface.

[Damazig]

I'm sorry, the what now?

Maybe you miss interperted me, everyone has hitching frame rate problems on the cinematics as I had stated before in the post, doesn't matter what PC or card you have, everyone has that, and the developers said it themselves, even locking the cinematics at 30 fps, unless you have some kind of miracle PC no one knows about

[Wulfram]

30 FPS isn't hitching. Cut scenes work fine for me. Of course the game tends to be at 30 FPSish for me anyway

[In Exile]

I'm just a guy who reads the "News and Anouncements" part of thise forum, that has a post from a dev called PC Community Concearns" and posted those exact 4 issues he said they were working on asap.

So you are going with option B. Well fair enough, I just think a small patch PC side correcting at least the tac cam would be quick and painless for everyone, and would go a long way in showing they are on it, and that PC does matter a little bit for them seeing there are plenty of PC players who refunded the game or don't wan't to play it as it is, just to cam, movement and interface.

The rage will be too much if the patch is targeted to one group and if it doesn't fix broken gameplay or story content. Beyond that the UI patches are probably even more work intensive than otherwise and will likely risk creating even more bugs. There's no sense in reworking the UI until the game is more stable.

[MarchWaltz]

I. Want. The. Damn. Accent. Bug. Fixed.

 

I can't play this game I payed for. Get off your maple-syrup chugging asses Bioware!

[blussi]

I. Want. The. Damn. Accent. Bug. Fixed.

 

I can't play this game I payed for. Get off your maple-syrup chugging asses Bioware!

 

 

Now that's just rude.