If it's a big patch with loads of things fixed a month isn't unreasonable.
Also driver releases are a possibility.
Who needs a patch when the game is one month old... Sorry dude but the life time of games nowadays is around two weeks and the hype is dead.
Maybe for those who can't even launch the game, but a patch will probably not fix that problem for them.
I. Want. The. Damn. Accent. Bug. Fixed.
I can't play this game I payed for. Get off your maple-syrup chugging asses Bioware!
As much as I'd love to see a patch fixing all the issues that led to my refund and then finally PLAY the game that so many say is awesome, that attitude of yours right here is the sort of stuff that would make me think: "Y'know what? You can wait a bit longer, just because." and I wouldn't hold it against BioWare if they did the same.
If you are so terribly annoyed, get a refund, maybe post some constructive feedback on what exactly you think is broken or requires work, possibly add some suggestions on how to make it better. Or maybe just shut up.
Either way, this insulting demeanor is entirely inappropriate, utterly useless and if the devs have half the mind I had after reading your comment, counterproductive.
Go take a cold shower, or two ... then come back when you cooled off enough to talk like a mature person again. Last time I checked DAI is rated M after all.
Games these days normally come with at least one or two patches on launch or just after. Anyway I'm too far into the game now to worry about patches.
Bioware has been Biowaste since EA acquired them. Kinda makes me wonder if the Zeschuk and Muzyka leaving isnt so much loss of passion for games (ie polygon interview i think) but maybe how they werent being allowed to make games to there standards anymore.
PS I vote for C. If they wanted it fixed, controls for PC should be dead simple fix. I hate controlers
Who needs a patch when the game is one month old... Sorry dude but the life time of games nowadays is around two weeks and the hype is dead.
Maybe for those who can't even launch the game, but a patch will probably not fix that problem for them.
What an utterly ridiculous thing to say. I'm curious to find out if you are genuinely as thick as that comment makes you sound?
I would rather a patch that worked than a quick but lousy patch. I think what would help though is a solid communication as to what IS being worked on. Maybe there has been one. I could have missed it. Still, I think it would settle down people. I had a ton of bugs, some game-changing. I had a choice of stopping play and waiting, or continuing on. I suddenly became British. I finished 3 companion quests to the ultimate ending of....silence. No recognition, no conversations afterwards. Kind of like "well, thanks for the help biotch, no need for you now!" LOL So, trust me, I want the bugs fixed more than anything. I just want a patch that actually works and fixes things instead of just a fast patch. I have my fingers crossed though that they are working diligently on this and will communicate with us as the progress, well, progresses.
The ignorance in this thread is astounding.
Besides the necessary certification for consoles and PC, which already delays patching processes, do you even understand the process of solving bugs?
Bugs are not necessarily independent or mutually exclusive. Solving one bug can cascade into spawning new bugs. You don't just stamp out a bug and call it a day. Software of this scope needs to be repeatedly tested to make sure the solution is safe. Do you realize how horrible they'd look if they fixed a major bug only to make a bigger one come up? Bugs on release are normal as sometimes QA cannot solve all problems in time. New massive bugs on patching is not held at the same regard.
Bugs are not necessarily easy to find to begin with, particularly if they're not easily replicable. Not everyone is experiencing all the bugs simultaneously. Fixing one mess can lead to someone's previously stable system to become a mess itself. It's not a zero-sum operation.
They don't have the time or manpower post-release to do QA at the same rate as they did during development. Unless you are honestly expecting they work themselves to death to fix the issue. They've crunched enough. They're working their hardest to fix the issues as they have repeatedly stated on the forum.
But what do you care yeah? BioWare employees are slaves to your entertainment who revel in disappointing you.
I would rather a patch that worked than a quick but lousy patch. I think what would help though is a solid communication as to what IS being worked on. Maybe there has been one. I could have missed it. Still, I think it would settle down people. I had a ton of bugs, some game-changing. I had a choice of stopping play and waiting, or continuing on. I suddenly became British. I finished 3 companion quests to the ultimate ending of....silence. No recognition, no conversations afterwards. Kind of like "well, thanks for the help biotch, no need for you now!" LOL So, trust me, I want the bugs fixed more than anything. I just want a patch that actually works and fixes things instead of just a fast patch. I have my fingers crossed though that they are working diligently on this and will communicate with us as the progress, well, progresses.
I'm sure there are those that can't get the game to run or find it unstable are saying the same thing,too bad a lot of issues that got through QA testing regardless of what you or I think of this game.
I do agree patches can make or break a game however,also do remember EA/BIoware have the gold /final version a lot longer then what you or I had,so I'm sure they were doing something about upcoming and future patches etc...
Buyers /gamers can and will get frustrated when they have to wait for their first patch,for the most part they expect the game in question to work pretty well since they paid their hard earned money for the game in question,having said that games are becoming too complicated and in a lot of cases unreasonable release deadlines etc...
Buyers /gamers can and will get frustrated when they have to wait for their first patch,for the most part they expect the game in question to work pretty well since they paid their hard earned money for the game in question,having said that games are becoming too complicated and in a lot of cases unreasonable release deadlines etc...
The sad truth is that software complexity and size is growing at a much bigger rate than bug-squashing algorithms and solutions are getting more effective.
Publishers should spend more resources on QA than they currently are, but QA and testing is one of the most expensive bits of game development in both time and money.
Any consumer of the current game market knows that buying games on release is a risky decision. Expecting otherwise when every other game of this magnitude has shown otherwise is frankly irrational from the buyer's end.
In any case, the product is still there. The consumer just has to wait a little longer to use it if there are game-breaking issues. This is still a product that has infinite shelf-life.
People can feel free to return the game if it utterly disappoints them so. The massive amount of complaining and consumer entitlement needs to stop though.
Not that it ever will.
Someone better tell Valve they're soooo wasting their time with seasonal Steam sales. No one gonna buy dead games few months after the launch, no matter the discount, amirite.Who needs a patch when the game is one month old... Sorry dude but the life time of games nowadays is around two weeks and the hype is dead.
nor would I begrudge them of such a break.
Well, I do because I paid full price at launch expecting a full, working game.
I mean, where would you draw the line? Suppose you bought a burger, and it turned out to be still frozen - would you be happy to maybe get a cooked burger some time next week? After all, cooking a burger is gruelling work and the chef needs a holiday. Probably not - you'd be demanding a properly cooked burger right now, or demand your money back... but why? How come $50 spent on a game doesn't matter, but $5 spent on a burger does?
Well, I do because I paid full price at launch expecting a full, working game.
I mean, where would you draw the line? Suppose you bought a burger, and it turned out to be still frozen - would you be happy to maybe get a cooked burger some time next week? After all, cooking a burger is gruelling work and the chef needs a holiday. Probably not - you'd be demanding a properly cooked burger right now, or demand your money back... but why? How come $50 spent on a game doesn't matter, but $5 spent on a burger does?
Not really the most valid comparison, but the principle I agree with.
I pre-ordered this game months ago only to get to play it for a total of two hours, most of which was simply changing settings and user.cfgs to try to get the game to play well enough on PC that it would be acceptable.
I was not able to get this to happen, and so a game I ordered a long time ago, finally downloaded and installed, I have not been able to play at all as I refuse to play it in the state that it is.
Meanwhile, you have people who are now already on their second playthrough, without any issues, and I'm sitting here with it installed and I can't play it.
2 weeks post release IS a while to patch a game with as many problems as this one has (for PC at least). I understand completely that there is no sense in just releasing a patch that could potentially create other problems, and I also realize its not just about throwing something out there as there are more than a few hoops to jump through.
That being said, on PC in particular there are certain issues that are insane to have not been patched yet.. they easily could have released a patch BY NOW for these issues (Auto attack toggle, walk/run toggle to name just two that should not be in the game still by now)
But clearly there are some white-knights in this thread who are jumping to the defense of Bioware, so I doubt this post will fall on reasonable ears.
The consumer just has to wait a little longer to use it if there are game-breaking issues. This is still a product that has infinite shelf-life.
People can feel free to return the game if it utterly disappoints them so. The massive amount of complaining and consumer entitlement needs to stop though.
Not that it ever will.
Consumers have the right to complain especially if they have paid for it,without feedback or input,solutions would not move as fast,company reputations are on the line, if we are all quiet sheep doing and saying nothing just think how slow things would move.
As a beta games tester and gamer myself I've always complained and gave constructive input where NEEDED, and that's the point.
People complain because they actually care,it's not being unreasonable for a buggy game,same goes for DA:I, people care about the game.
I for one will complain and give constructive input because yes I paid for the game and DO care about DA:I,most people including DA:I developers can appreciate that.
Last point most don't want to return the game and that is easier said then done,they just want the game they were half hoping for or at least stable and quite polished which is not really asking a lot when you think how long some of these games are in development.
Patches are an important part of this so as to be expected gamers what that ASAP,I can understand it from both sides.
Who needs a patch when the game is one month old... Sorry dude but the life time of games nowadays is around two weeks and the hype is dead.
Maybe for those who can't even launch the game, but a patch will probably not fix that problem for them.
Does Bio actually think auto-attack is a problem? I haven't heard. (I don't see the problem myself, but that's a separate issue.)That being said, on PC in particular there are certain issues that are insane to have not been patched yet.. they easily could have released a patch BY NOW for these issues (Auto attack toggle, walk/run toggle to name just two that should not be in the game still by now)
Consumers have the right to complain especially if they have paid for it,without feedback or input,solutions would not move as fast,company reputations are on the line, if we are all quiet sheep doing and saying nothing just think how slow things would move.
As a beta games tester and gamer myself I've always complained and gave constructive input where NEEDED, and that's the point.
People complain because they actually care,it's not being unreasonable for a buggy game,same goes for DA:I, people care about the game.
I for one will complain and give constructive input because yes I paid for the game and DO care about DA:I,most people including DA:I developers can appreciate that.
Last point most don't want to return the game and that is easier said then done,they just want the game they were half hoping for or at least stable and quite polished which is not really asking a lot when you think how long some of these games are in development.
Patches are an important part of this so as to be expected gamers what that ASAP,I can understand it from both sides.
See thats the boat I am in. Do we think they will be acceptably fixing this stuff for PC before the 30 day window. I too preordered as I did like the previous DA games, obviously 2 not so much, but still its better than what we have now. This Wall of Silence from Bioware and the Made by Pc Gamers for Pc Gamers (which is what encouraged me to preorder), really has me agreeing EA has finally done in Bioware.
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I'll just quote myself from another thread
Feedback is pretty important, positive or negative.
The problem is people shouldn't do the latter impetuously with foam at the mouth.
I don't disagree. I just dislike the way it's done.
See thats the boat I am in. Do we think they will be acceptably fixing this stuff for PC before the 30 day window. I too preordered as I did like the previous DA games, obviously 2 not so much, but still its better than what we have now. This Wall of Silence from Bioware and the Made by Pc Gamers for Pc Gamers (which is what encouraged me to preorder), really has me agreeing EA has finally done in Bioware.
Go to the feedback section. They aren't going to talk about issues here.
Does Bio actually think auto-attack is a problem? I haven't heard. (I don't see the problem myself, but that's a separate issue.)
Probably not because it already exists in tactical camera. Actually reworking tactical camera on PC a bit would solve numerous issues people evidently have with the game. That again is a seperate issue.
Anyway Aaryn updated us not so long ago about how the patch is coming soon with bug fixes (namely crashes) and general improvements; curious to see what that holds.
I'll just quote myself from another thread
I don't disagree. I just dislike the way it's done.
That's to be expected in forums,we have people and personalities from all walks of life,however most members here have been civilized for the most part.
Best BIoware can do is keep us updated on the patch progress,now that is not asking a lot is it?
That's to be expected in forums,we have people and personalities from all walks of life,however most members here have been civilized for the most part.
Best BIoware can do is keep us updated on the patch progress,now that is not asking a lot is it?
They have been though, in the News / Feedback sections.
Who needs a patch when the game is one month old... Sorry dude but the life time of games nowadays is around two weeks and the hype is dead.
Maybe for those who can't even launch the game, but a patch will probably not fix that problem for them.
I need couse I am not going to ruin my game experience by playing the game with current issues. Some people do not need to finish the game week or few days after release. Hype may be gone sure but there are people who bought the game and will wait till serious issues are fixed.
Oh for crying out loud it's like this with every game now "When is the patch out? When is the patch ETA? Tell me what is in the patch". It'll be out when it's ready just wait. There are no serious game breaking bugs stopping everyone from playing so no need to rush. And beta drivers with optimizations were released by both AMD and Nvidia days before release.
I need couse I am not going to ruin my game experience by playing the game with current issues. Some people do not need to finish the game week or few days after release. Hype may be gone sure but there are people who bought the game and will wait till serious issues are fixed.
What serious issues?
Anyway Aaryn updated us not so long ago about how the patch is coming soon with bug fixes (namely crashes) and general improvements; curious to see what that holds.
Likely nothing what you want. They aren't going to rip out whole features instead of research and fix bugs people are finding. If people are lucky they might be able to fix audio issues and the dialogue wheel hanging.
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