Steam when it first came out was much worse than Origin. Much worse. I remember it being a virus it was so bad. That's basically what it amounted to. I remember the great BSODs when it first came out. Oh how people forget so quickly how bad Steam use to be. Amazing how quickly they turned their rep around.
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but Steam is not bad now. does Origin let me download the game with english VA and english subs? nope. does Origin have library sharing thingy? nope.
Big Picture is surprisingly brilliant too.
I don't know the budget they had, but I'm guessing that if they move at least 1.5 million they break even, anything 2 million or better is icing on the cake.
More like 2.5 to 3 million if the game's budget is about 60 to 70 m dollars.
A little lower than Kingdom; they also had to deal with interest from the stupidly vast loans they took using my tax dollars (and never repaid lololol). Not that we took that in account when we gave them the loan. Also the lack of marketing makes a big difference in budget.
But anyway
Yeah I'd say between 2-2.5 to put them into black and the game ending up around 4-4.5 lifetime.
I wouldn't compare them to Kingdoms of Amalur. 38 Studios owed an absurd amount of money, somewhere between 100million and 500million dollars spread out over a thousand creditors. Who knows what happened there but I don't think they were making great business decisions.
I wouldn't compare them to Kingdoms of Amalur. 38 Studios owed an absurd amount of money, somewhere between 100million and 500million dollars spread out over a thousand creditors. Who knows what happened there but I don't think they were making great business decisions.
I live in that state, you've no idea just how amazingly stupid that whole enterprise was.
I can't believe that almost all people were complaining about PC.
I live in that state, you've no idea just how amazingly stupid that whole enterprise was.
I read an article about it once and spent the whole time with my mouth open going '... they did what?' Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised the game ever made it to sale.
As i said, it was a guess. We do not know their budget, and I'm going to take a wild guess that RA Salvatore probably commands a far higher salary than any other writer for Bioware does....seeing as how he has books that made the bestseller lists and all that.
Inquisition will hit its mark. Your data from NPD is flawed and inaccurate.
As i said, it was a guess. We do not know their budget, and I'm going to take a wild guess that RA Salvatore probably commands a far higher salary than any other writer for Bioware does....seeing as how he has books that made the bestseller lists and all that.
Inquisition will hit its mark. Your data from NPD is flawed and inaccurate.
DAI seemed to pick their marketing very carefully on places like Twitch. I don't think it had much marketing budget but rather relied on word of mouth. EA was probably cautious after Bioware's rep from their previous few games. Now they have a prestige IP that's looking to sweep many GOTY awards and that in itself should drive numbers up through the holiday season. People do take notice to those awards especially if it's winning it on all big publications.
The average AAA budget a few years ago was only around $20 million. Let's say with the new generation it went up another $10 million. That's $30 million development budget. Not too bad. I highly doubt it spent more than 20-25 million marketing. I didn't see any ads for it anywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if their marketing budget was only a few million. I suppose all the matters is what EA expects on their return in investment. Keep in mind Bioware got a year extension and this game had to build every asset from scratch into the engine which isn't cheap.
Bioware's future products should be much easier for them to develop now that they have an engine built with those assets in place. It will likely save them time and money.
but Steam is not bad now. does Origin let me download the game with english VA and english subs? nope. does Origin have library sharing thingy? nope.
I did a refund on Origin for Sims 4 after trying it for an hour and received it 10 mins later. Simply fabulous. Can't do that on Steam.
but Steam is not bad now. does Origin let me download the game with english VA and english subs? nope. does Origin have library sharing thingy? nope.
Uhm, it does? All my games on Origin are downloaded in English because the Hungarian translations are obnoxious. Every single game. Never had an issue with it ever.
If it weren't, I guarantee Bio-ware would no longer bother paying any attention to this game.
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