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[KaiserShep]

Dr. Bryson and Anne Bryson really bug me. Their faces kind of skip along the line into uncanny valley territory, to an even worse degree than Diana Allers, and I wish that they just used some generic CC options to create them instead.

[RanetheViking]

Nah. My own fault for coming by and seeing this. My own fault, further, for engaging in any debate when I'm just slightly drunk. Shoulda known better by now. Guess it just goes to show that age doesn't necessarily bring wisdom with it.

 

And really... I don't care enough to engage you haters by now. By the looks of it, you're same as Mike. At this point... I just don't give a flying frack.

 

Despite my post obviously proving differently.

Yeah I don't bother anymore either, it's better to be outside the asylum looking in. So to speak.

 

That's kind of true for default FemShep as well though, even though she looks like Ronald McDonald.

You beat me to it.

 

And not just the default FemShep, some of the custom made ones I've seen since coming here have been .. well to be diplomatic, were 'problematic'.

[aoibhealfae]

Dr. Bryson and Anne Bryson really bug me. Their faces kind of skip along the line into uncanny valley territory, to an even worse degree than Diana Allers, and I wish that they just used some generic CC options to create them instead.

I'm more bothered by Dr Bryson's frail body. It look like his muscle is wasting which is not healthy....

Jessica Chobot is beautiful but she look a lot nicer in real life because she is animated as a person. Ann Bryson is conventionally beautiful too and both of them have prominent plumped cheeks. They are appealing because normally you only see them when they're smiling but in CGI their cheeks are permanently like that.  They don't move... and its creeeeepy

Same goes with default FemShep who are surprisingly less animated than custom Shep.

[Vazgen]

I never found Allers or Ann Bryson attractive. And it's up to the player to make a good-looking Shepard

[Han Shot First]

Liara has plump cheeks too. She's animated well. Maybe it's Bryson's mouth that makes the difference... I don't know.

 

Liara being an alien might have something to do it. Like Liara Samara was also modeled on a real person, and likewise never had the same issues of Uncanny Valley that plagued some of the face-mapped human characters like Miranda, the Brysons, or Allers. Maybe that they aren't designed to look exactly like a human is enough to prevent the whole Uncanny Valley effect.

 

Having said all of that maybe Bioware finally got the handle on face mapping human characters. I can't remember any issues with Maya Brooks in the Citadel DLC. (she was also kinda hot) 

[aoibhealfae]

I can't remember any issues with Maya Brooks in the Citadel DLC. (she was also kinda hot) 

In some scenes, I thought her eyes was empty (soulless) and she have this weird greyish tinge on her eyeballs. (Maybe its just my PC or I'm nitpicking)

 

Yes, I know this is video game filled with CGI characters but they do have genuine facial expression and everyone have expressive eyes and they felt human. 

[Quarian Master Race]

You're not remembering that entirely correctly. In Shepard's after action report to the Asari Councilor he says, "Councilor, I wish the news was better. We didn't get the information...Cerberus was there...We were defeated. We don't know how to finish the Crucible. I'm sorry." It is entirely about the Crucible and not the planet. Afterwards with Liara he says "Its my job to be prepared, no matter what. And now Thessia is lost, as is the data on the Catalyst." I could see how the first half of that sentence could be mistaken as Shepard claiming responsibility for Thessia falling, but that wasn't my take. The important point is what follows about the Catalyst. The preceding conversation with the Asari Councilor and the mission on Thessia itself (which was solely geared towards recovering data on the Catalyst) also supports that. When Shepard encounters the Asari commandos on Thessia he doesn't tell them he's there to save the planet (because he isn't and can't) he tells them that if they hold it might allow him to recover an artifact crucial to defeating the Reapers.

I had to reload a save that was close to Thessia. Most of that is technically correct....if selecting the correct (paragon) dialouge, but fair enough, with metagame knowledge you can avoid some of the stupid. The fact that you are still railroaded into an apology and accepting responsibility for the events that transpire is nonetheless idiotic. Even in the Paragon dialouge, the mention of Thessia comes right after the insinuation that its loss was due to Shepard not being prepared, which is absurd and obviously untrue. So no, I don't think I've a mistaken interpretation of anything.

Further, it still doesn't explain why Shep is still acting like a defeatist, butthurt little kid even after almost immediately learning that there is a lead on Leng's location and by extension the Crucible data. No one around him/her is acting like that. The rest of the team (other than Liara, who has a better excuse) just takes it in stride, provides the PC some platitudes and basically tries to help them shake it off, they don't pout or argue with you. In fact, Anderson practically straight up tells you to get some perspective and get over it.

I'm fine with the character expressing anger, doubts or regrets at some points, but there has to be some tact in the selection of those points. Literally no one else seems to think that what happened at Thessia is as dire as Shep does (apart from Liara, for obvious reasons), and for good reason. It'd have been one thing if the data was literally lost or Leng had deleted it because reasons, but it isn't. It's not nearly the setback that some previous events could have been up to this point, so Shepard losing their mind over it looks completely out of place unless he/she has never experienced a single defeat of any kind up to this point (impossible) or has some special connection to Thessia. Granted, it works okay for a Liaramancing Shepard to be unusually upset along with her, but otherwise it looks very silly and nonobjective.

[von uber]

Ah always makes me laugh when people complain about completely optional liara romance content.
Anyway.

Femshep is still bestshep.

[von uber]

Comforting liara is entirely optional, as is her gift scene and her time capsule scene.
To complain about them seems odd given that you have to have chosen to do them.
It's like lotsb; complaining about her role in that (and over looking her virtual absence in me2) means that you have deliberately chosen to purchase a liara specific dlc.

It's all a bit odd if you ask me.

[Seyd71]

Fem Shep. Jennifer Hale.

 

If only Simon Templeman or David Hayter was voice of male character then it might be a tie. 

 

I like Mark Meers, he's a likable person with a nice voice work. No offense meant but other people i mentioned are in different league so to speak.

 

I'll stick with Mark Meer, thank you very much.

[aoibhealfae]

I notice that for Liara's post-thessia her bedroom scene, she have three different set of unique response where Liara behave differently a) Shepard make her work on refugee logistics b ) Shepard sit on the bed and try to say nice thing and Liara stare blankly at her datapad wishing she can do something and c) Liara slumping on the bed and be depressed and all. 

 

Remember that again whenever you wish for more different unique cutscenes in one scene with your LIs who is not-Liara and ones that doesn't require you to kill them or let them die for a different outcome.

 

and nobody give me a good solid reason why BroShep is attractive to women. In fact, I haven't received a single "Yes, I found BroShep is attractive to me because..." when compared to a LOT of yes with FemShep. I am a straight woman who is attracted to FemShep too and yet nobody including me actually know what qualities BroShep has that he get all the girls into his yard... other than him being entitled to it by simply existing as a man and saving damsels 

[Han Shot First]

 

and nobody give me a good solid reason why BroShep is attractive to women. In fact, I haven't received a single "Yes, I found BroShep is attractive to me because..." when compared to a LOT of yes with FemShep. I am a straight woman who is attracted to FemShep too and yet nobody including me actually know what qualities BroShep has that he get all the girls into his yard... other than him being entitled to it by simply existing as a man and saving damsels 

 

The female characters in the game have different ideas than you about what is or isn't attractive I guess? It happens. Also I don't think you've gotten an answer because that sort of thing is subjective, and I'd wager most people don't choose to play as either a custom or a default male shep based on whether or not he'd be considered attractive by straight women. 

 

Also to be honest I don't think Fem Shep is any better off in that regard. I didn't find any of the defaults to be particularly attractive either.

[Mineko]

and nobody give me a good solid reason why BroShep is attractive to women. In fact, I haven't received a single "Yes, I found BroShep is attractive to me because..." when compared to a LOT of yes with FemShep. I am a straight woman who is attracted to FemShep too and yet nobody including me actually know what qualities BroShep has that he get all the girls into his yard... other than him being entitled to it by simply existing as a man and saving damsels 

Haven't played with BroShep yet, to be honest, so I can't really give you an answer. But I would chose the same as with femShep: his character, his hero aura, all that stuff. Will update once I make a playthrough with male Shepard, promise. D:

 

But in general the default maleShep looks are attractive to me, I must say.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Jack and Kaidan fare well too for humans... and default Broshep. edit: Excluding Broshep's smile

 

[aoibhealfae]

Spoiler

The real thing is always better

[Batarian Master Race]

and nobody give me a good solid reason why BroShep is attractive to women. In fact, I haven't received a single "Yes, I found BroShep is attractive to me because..." when compared to a LOT of yes with FemShep. I am a straight woman who is attracted to FemShep too and yet nobody including me actually know what qualities BroShep has that he get all the girls into his yard... other than him being entitled to it by simply existing as a man and saving damsels 

 

As a dude, BroShep is pretty damn attractive. He's in control without being overly controlling or hypermasculine, he's powerful while not being threatening, and his, uh... face is pretty?

[Daemul]

What is this topic meant to be about again?

[Pasquale1234]

As for the rest, I'm glad a lot of stuff is optional. Still doesn't change how they present Shep or animate him in some situations. The more they make the games "cinematic" they lose some of it's roleplaying capabilities.

Yep. People want more cutscenes, cutscenes, cutscenes, to create more drama, and then complain when the MC does not behave the way they would like in those cutscenes.

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OT: FemShep.

I did play through ME2 and part of ME3 with a BroShep once. I wanted the romance cheevo in ME2, and chose Jack. Lost interest in the character partway through ME3. I love the other voices Mark Meer does - especially the Vorcha - but prefer Hale for Shepard.

[aoibhealfae]

As a dude, BroShep is pretty damn attractive. He's in control without being overly controlling or hypermasculine, he's powerful while not being threatening, and his, uh... face is pretty?

If I was a woman attracted to men in power, maybe I would dig that type. But you won't last in a relationship if your attraction solely depends on that being someone who is in control and powerful. 

FemShep is always the prettier one for me, even if BroShep is the real supermodel. 

[BassStyles]

On my initial playthrough, I play a male character because, well, I'm male and I like to play the character as if I were them, making the decisions based on my own principles, morality, and personality. The subsequent playthroughs, I'll mix it up. Playing male or female, trying different romance options, different personalities, all that jazz.

 

So having played different characters in the MEverse, I gotta go with MaleShep personally. I liked the VA, default model, and playing him as a Paragade. Although, my Renegade FemShep is dear to me. She is pretty BAMF and Hale delivers great Renegade dialogue. However, MaleShep just resonates with me and that first playthrough of Mass Effect will always be attributed to MaleShep.

 

Maybe once ME:Next comes out, I should force myself to play a female character first and see if I develop the same attachment like I did with MaleShep.