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[KaiserShep]

The Normandy's environment seems far more stable than that of a modern spacecraft. In ME2, the Collectors attack and there's fires going off everywhere yet Shepard isn't incinerated right then and there.

[themikefest]

I would have like it much better if Hale acted Shepard a bit like what she did with Commander Sarah Palmer in Halo 4. sigh... Bioware should just reboot the trilogy and give us more Shep...

I wouldn't have a problem with a reboot and more Shepard

[Quarian Master Race]

I think my Shep is way too good of shape to be a smoker. Have you seen the pullups?

 

It's probably Chakwas smoking up the place. Doctors are crazy like that.

Nah, Chakwas is just a drunk. Shala'Raan's the obvious culprit. Have you heard her voice?

[Gambit458]

I would like it better if people point out exactly at what point Hale sounds "emotionally exaggerated" and where Meer sounds "normal". I have a harder time thinking BroShep anything but normal. I wouldn't say he's emotionless either since he did such a great job at sounding soulless and bored for better part of the trilogy. Hale could do very exaggerated high pitch nasal voice really well and you hardly see that much of her in ME.

 

I think it depends on which Shepard you choose in your first playthrough and you would develop preferences. I've used to Hale's more rounded delivery with FemShep that I have a hard time with Meer's portraying Shepard as a flat character. I suppose, switching between BroShep and FemShep and vice versa can be disorienting. Thus "emotionally exaggerated" comments with FemShep and my perception that BroShep is boring Hero tropish character. He seems like he had a harder time with his delivery and it shows his inexperience. We wouldn't even have this "which is better" conversation if Meer was replaced with Brian Bloom... but its too late now.

It doesn't have to be pointed out, when more than one person has mentioned that Hale sounds too emotional sometimes then obviously it's a trend worth taking notice of. "Normal"..Shepard sounds calm and doesn't get emotional until the situation provokes it..How is that not normal? Besides, I can't stand Hale since she voices Sarah Palmer from Halo 4 and Palmer's annoying. "Flat character"..He doesn't have to put on a 5 star performance to be recognized as the better Shepard.  Femshep may supposedly have the "voice" but Broshep fits better overall, as I mentioned earlier how he fits better kind of like the male vault dweller in FO. 

[aoibhealfae]

Why BroShep is being seen as normal was mostly because its always a default male cookie-cutter character you always play in most video games. He's alternate versions of JC Denton, Johnny Rico, Captain Kirk, Captain Picard, Mal, Chris Redfield, Cloud Strife, Apollo, Colonel Jack O'Neill, Han Solo...  and so on. That's why he's 'normal' and people are comfortable playing him because a playable main female protagonist is an anomaly when you're used to playing default BroShep-types characters in video games. 

 

FemShep is least emotional than Terminator 3's T-X or River Tam and even lesser than all of Normandy female crew. Even Samara is to a degree as cold and calculating and emotionally distant as her but I always get the feeling that Shepard is a hardened person who bottle up everything until she explode. I don't get that same feel with BroShep. It was until ME3 that the writers decide to humanize Shepard with nightmares and emotional breakdown that the transition with BroShep is much more jarring than with FemShep. And Hale doesn't play FemShep to mirror Meer's performance as BroShep. These two Shepard are separate individuals and they have different approach in portraying the character; Meer is more comfortable as an improv actor while Hale is a method actor. Their character only share the same name and the same ship and that's it. Even a lot of ME actors hardly interact or befriend with each other until a few years later. 

 

In the end of the day, I'm just happy that there's no canon gender for Shepard.

[KaiserShep]

Ain't no such thang as a "normal" Shepard. 

[RanetheViking]

It doesn't have to be pointed out, when more than one person has mentioned that Hale sounds too emotional sometimes then obviously it's a trend worth taking notice of. "Normal"..Shepard sounds calm and doesn't get emotional until the situation provokes it..How is that not normal? Besides, I can't stand Hale since she voices Sarah Palmer from Halo 4 and Palmer's annoying. "Flat character"..He doesn't have to put on a 5 star performance to be recognized as the better Shepard.  Femshep may supposedly have the "voice" but Broshep fits better overall, as I mentioned earlier how he fits better kind of like the male vault dweller in FO. 

Yeah I think that was why I disliked the Palmer character in Halo 4 too. That and she shot Dr Halsey. lol

 

I used to be polite and say her voice acting was okay, but to be truthful I can't stand it. It took me ages to do some FemShep playthroughs and at times I had to force myself to keep playing. I mostly did them just so I could say I played a FemShep.

Never again though.

 

BroShep is the way to go for me.

[RanetheViking]

All I know is videos and I like her voice.. 

 

Maybe I should try it from start to finish... and see how different it really is. From what I've seen, I don't know how it could be bad.

Yeah maybe it's first impressions (like with Ashley's VA, I never warmed to the character from the start because of it) or maybe because Hale seems to be in every other game I've played.

It may be silly, but we like what we like. And vice versa.

 

But yeah do a FemShep run even if it's just to say you did it, like me, and who knows you might like it better.

 

As an aside I only recently found out she (Hale) voiced some characters in the God of War games.

[Broganisity]

Mark Veer does standard shep dialogue really well. Femshep's standard dialogue makes her sound bored/tired of dealing with all that drek.

Mark Veer does better Renegade Shep. Hale does a good Paragon, so does Veer.
 

Veer does an overall 'heroic' shep really well.

 

Hale is not bad, I just feel Veer's presentation was better overall. . .even his STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE was pretty great.

[aoibhealfae]

I do wish Mark Meer would get more major roles other than being known as Commander Shepard. The fame did help his career and I do love his comedy skit (Meer with the sonic screwdriver.. geek). I understand that Hale was frustrated about the general treatment on FemShep. I didn't even found out that it was possible to play as a female Shepard until a year ago because I always thought Shepard was a man. 

 

I kinda like Sarah Palmer. She's like mild Renegade FemShep incarnate. Then again, I only watch Halo 4 from youtube. Console exclusivity... sigh

[Gambit458]

Yeah I think that was why I disliked the Palmer character in Halo 4 too. That and she shot Dr Halsey. lol

 

I used to be polite and say her voice acting was okay, but to be truthful I can't stand it. It took me ages to do some FemShep playthroughs and at times I had to force myself to keep playing. I mostly did them just so I could say I played a FemShep.

Never again though.

 

BroShep is the way to go for me.

This so much. Trying to listen to Femshep is like listening to nails on a chalkboard.  Every time I heard her as Palmer I couldn't help but think, "can we shoot her instead?" haha. I think people are misunderstanding what I mean by "normal." By normal, I mean no different than how most people talk. I highly doubt some of you engage in conversations with another as emotionally as Hale, which is how I look at it..Who sounds more realistic. 

[Fixers0]

To Meer's credit, he did really goodj ob with most of the renegade dialogue, even as early as ME1, like during the Eden Prime debriefing with Anderson the lines; "The Geth would have wiped out the whole colony if I hadn't stopped them" or the "They'll think I'm crazy" sound more convincing when spoken by Meer than by Hale.

[von uber]

This so much. Trying to listen to Femshep is like listening to nails on a chalkboard. 

 

Eh, for me trying to listen to broshep is like sitting through my first year concrete materials lecture (the one i fell asleep in).

[KaiserShep]

It's interesting how differently people react to certain voices. I love Hale's voice, and could probably listen to it for hours, whereas Meer's Shepard reminds me too much of my geology professor, and I'm just waiting for M!Shep to make some sort of corny "You're full of schist" joke. I find my balance of likes between the voices in DA2 to be a bit more even. I enjoy Boulton's M!Hawke about as much as I like Wyatt's. 

[Ezra Watcher]

have played both Femshep and Broshep for story and romance reasons. but i prefer FemShep a lot more.

[Statichands]

Femshep for me, Jennifer Hale has a powerful voice, the voice of a leader. 

[DebatableBubble]

MaleShep, ultimately. Moreso in later games but he wasn't terrible in ME1. Hale I liked well enough in the first but I disliked her more as the series went on. I like Hale's other work (Bastila ) but not FemShep. 

Doesn't help that her Shepard voice seems to be her go-to one. 

[Han Shot First]

Why BroShep is being seen as normal was mostly because its always a default male cookie-cutter character you always play in most video games. He's alternate versions of JC Denton, Johnny Rico, Captain Kirk, Captain Picard, Mal, Chris Redfield, Cloud Strife, Apollo, Colonel Jack O'Neill, Han Solo...  and so on. That's why he's 'normal' and people are comfortable playing him because a playable main female protagonist is an anomaly when you're used to playing default BroShep-types characters in video games. 

 

No.

[aka.700]

FemShep always and always with the same face features. I have played the trilogy about 50 times but I could only bear the BroShep 4 times. I don't enjoy playing as him. I don't know the reason exactly but I love how Jennifer Hale voice Shepard at least to me better than Mark Meer, even though he did a good job too.

[obbie31]

I'm always torn on this decision honestly. I like broshep because I relate to the character better and romances and characters feel more personal to me. As femshep, I do not "bond" the same way with characters like Wrex, Garrus, James, etc. And while I think Kaiden's romance is nice, I don't get attached to the romance like I did with Tali or Miranda as broshep.

 

As for the voices, its another thing I'm torn on. I used to hate Meer, and refused to play broshep. But now, I don't think he's so bad even in ME1. He does tend to be a little dry in his deliveries in all games though. But I think he makes a far better renegade than Hale for sure. Hale's husky, i'm an ex smoker tough guy voice is very bad and not intimidating in the slightest. You can tell Meer enjoyed the renegade lines and it shows in his deliveries. Hale is far better as a paragon. I feel she has a warm and compassionate voice in the paragon lines.

 

I think ME3 was Meer's best game and he improved steadily in the series. He's always sounded great in the middle of combat as well. I prefer his melee and nova explosion "RAAAARRRGGHH" to Hale's. But I also feel that certain areas where he is lacking in ME3. The Cerberus synthetic escapes on Mars was poorly delivered (Anybody?!). Hale does  a much better job there. Also on Citadel the Return, Hale is better. She sounds like she's in pain and physically/emotionally drained. Her conversation with the Catalyst was amazing and truly makes me feel bad for femshep. But on the other hand, I feel she tends to overact many of her lines and put emphasis on words that don't need it. Some of her deliveries feel over done and out of place in some scenes. As someone said, it feels like Hale is putting her own spin on the character when it doesn't always call for it. Meer's neutral voice acting can be more beneficial that way. But Hale has delivered some of the best scenes I have seen in a game to date.

 

In the end? I like them both. I wish femshep would tone it down here and there, and I wish broshep showed a bit more emotion in some areas. If broshep did that, it would be a lot more one sided in his favor.