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Bioware did great with their voice acting creds in general. But in all fairness, the real contender against Mark Meer was Brian Bloom as Male Trooper in SWTOR. At least with Bloom, he oozes sexiness with his sexy raspy voice especially when he exert natural dominance and authority... Meer is kinda flaccid in this area. 

 

FemTrooper = FemShepard because even in Star Wars universe, she rules.



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Custom MaleShep is based on me, so he wins my favor my default.

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Femshep for the following reasons:

 

1) The main characters for most video games are male so it is interesting/refreshing to be able to play female.

 

2) I am in the Jennifer Hale's performance was much better camp. I found her performance to be more engrossing so I was better able to get immersed in the game. 

 

3) The default Shepard is ugly, imo. I know he is based on a model but I just find him ape-ish. He has a low brow and his eyes are too close together. I know that one can adjust his looks but after playing as default male Shep, I just see that ape-face every time I try to play as male Shep now. 



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Dani, it looks a lot better than Femshep's default face...As for more male than female characters, just because there's more males doesn't mean a female will automatically be better due to their lower number. 



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Dani, it looks a lot better than Femshep's default face...As for more male than female characters, just because there's more males doesn't mean a female will automatically be better due to their lower number. 

 

That's why they call it an opinion. ;) 



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Dani, it looks a lot better than Femshep's default face...As for more male than female characters, just because there's more males doesn't mean a female will automatically be better due to their lower number. 

Default male Shepard only looks better if one likes the sloppily shaven, almost bald dudebro-type of look. Which not everyone does.

 

And no a female character is not automatically better than a male one. However in case of Shepard no matter which gender you choose they are still basically the exact same character, except for well the gender. So as far as I'm concerned the choice boils down to Badass epic dudebro soldier, like the ones probably 40% of all games in existance make you play as without option to be anything else or Badass epic soldier girl, which I can chose to play in probably 10% or less (tendency currenty rising) of all games. And sicne there are zero differences characterswise the female option, for me, wins out due to rarity. (Note: Statistis are made up on the spot and real percenages may vary.

That is in most playthroughs. Sometimes I still choose male Shepards (custom ones though) because I want to see one of his possible romances or example or just to shake it up after a while.


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This may sound weird but I can't imagine shepard as a man.
As a woman she is unique, as a man he just dissolves into the miasma of all the other heroes.

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 Meer is better IMO.

 

Meer is soft when he needs to be (paragon/neutral), or hostile (renegade) and can deadpan well (also renegade). In ME1 he could be a little bit 1-dimensional but he improves a good deal in ME2 and really nailed it in ME3 from start to finish.

 

Hale was great in ME1 but has been a loose-cannon ever since. She's really just all over the place, paragon or renegade. And her delivery on humor lines is awful ("Thathurtzmaifeelings, Gronnt!!"  :sick:). She definitely has her moments but overall she's pretty wildly inconsistent.


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I can understand that some might prefer FemShep, but male Shep is far from being some stereotypical 'dudebro.'

 

The dudebro stereotype is of an obnoxious homophobe and misogynist who hides behind a screen of hypermasculinity to hide his own insecurity. None of that is an accurate description of Male Shep.


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I can understand that some might prefer FemShep, but male Shep is far from being some stereotypical 'dudebro.'

 

The dudebro stereotype is of an obnoxious homophobe and misogynist who hides behind a screen of hypermasculinity to hide his own insecurity. None of that is an accurate description of Male Shep.

 

I was just about to come in and say this but you beat me to it. I can understand that people might think the default Shepard looks generic. And I agree, he does look generic. Which is why I always customize my Shepard. Shepard's personality is nothing like a typical dudeguybro. His personality is very similar to femshep's and he ends up being a pretty well rounded character by the end of the series. The voice is the only thing that's different. And I don't agree with this notion that females are preferable because we see less of them. I think regardless of gender, the character is what's important. Not what genitals they are sporting and how often they are use. Some of the best and most iconic characters in gaming are male as well as female. 

 

On a side note, I saw someone mention Chris Redfield as typical male hero. Given my avatar, its another sentiment I don't agree with at all. ;)  He is nothing like a dudeguybro, especially in the later games. But I digress. Both Sheps are awesome in their own way. I just prefer broshep a tad more because I'm a guy too.



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Femshep FTW.

 

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I've posted it in Little Things thread but repost it here:
 
Meer improved drastically in ME2 and ME3, Hale largely held to the same standard. Both have their good and bad moments. 
 
IMO Jennifer Hale can pull off emotional lines better than Meer, but she puts that emotion into some lines that don't require it and doesn't put them where it might work out better. Here are two examples 1) Vasir hostage situation - FemshepMaleshep 2) Garrus goodbye, no romance - Femshep,Maleshep
 
I prefer Meer's voice acting, he can sometimes sound completely emotionless (most apparent in ME1) but he has less of such sound inconsistencies throughout the trilogy than Jennifer Hale. Also, my canon Shepard is male  :)
 
P.S. One reason for lack of emotions in ME1 can be attributed to the process of sound recording. Both Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale commented on the process having much improved by the time of ME3. Voice actors were able to better follow the dialogue by listening the lines they have to respond to, they had script presented digitally rather than on paper...
 
PPS. I believe this question was discussed in great detail previously on these forums  :D

Exactly what he/she said, Shepard can be anyone then I like the way male shep is more neutral what represents better the player choice or situation and works better for multiple characters in my opinion. I liked some parts of ME1 about he being emotionless because I knew sometimes it would mess with what I really wanted or was feeling at the moment or when I used in the same conversation neutral, paragon and renegade dialogues



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This may sound weird but I can't imagine shepard as a man.
As a woman she is unique, as a man he just dissolves into the miasma of all the other heroes.

 

I feel the same way. Male Shep feels like a repeat of the same 'destined to be the True Hero and save everyone' character that we've seen hundreds if not thousands of times before going all the way back to Homer's The Odyssey. Fem Shep is a slight twist on that troupe just by virtue of her gender. Even though it is in the future when women are regularly in the military and every soldier receives genetic enhancements, I can just imagine the c**p that she would have had to go through just to become an N7. Not just the physical challenges but the attitudes of some of her male peers. I think Anderson even said something about how he is old-school and has a hard time taking the asari seriously because they are feminine. 



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I can understand that some might prefer FemShep, but male Shep is far from being some stereotypical 'dudebro.'

 

The dudebro stereotype is of an obnoxious homophobe and misogynist who hides behind a screen of hypermasculinity to hide his own insecurity. None of that is an accurate description of Male Shep.

 

Doesn't it depend on how one plays Shepard? I could never bring myself to play Renegade Fem or Male Shep but I'm seen some videos and some of the things that he says are pretty sexist and racist. Add in the muscle-bound hyper-masculine body and the shoot first attitude and he does kind of seem like that stereotype, like John Wayne or Dirty Harry in space. 



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Meer is better IMO.

Meer is soft when he needs to be (paragon/neutral), or hostile (renegade) and can deadpan well (also renegade). In ME1 he could be a little bit 1-dimensional but he improves a good deal in ME2 and really nailed it in ME3 from start to finish.

Hale was great in ME1 but has been a loose-cannon ever since. She's really just all over the place, paragon or renegade. And her delivery on humor lines is awful ("Thathurtzmaifeelings, Gronnt!!" :sick:). She definitely has her moments but overall she's pretty wildly inconsistent.

I have the same criticism of FemShep's voice acting as I do Liara's ME2 voice acting. It's that voice where she's trying to sound badass or something, all the time, and it comes off sounding unnatural.

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Mine is BroShep of course, coz these Lady Gaga glasses looks so good on him.....

 

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That's why they call it an opinion. ;)

Just because it's an opinion doesn't mean there can't be evidence to show how easily it can be debunked :) 

 

Fhs, there's plenty of RPG games that allow you to play as a female so that percentage is not as low as you're trying to make it sound. Bioware was giving you the option to play as a female even back during the KOTOR days. There's nothing unique about Shepard if he's a woman, whereas male shepard..That's a man who tops Master Chief as the top Sci Fi soldier imo



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Just because it's an opinion doesn't mean there can't be evidence to show how easily it can be debunked :)

 

Fhs, there's plenty of RPG games that allow you to play as a female so that percentage is not as low as you're trying to make it sound. Bioware was giving you the option to play as a female even back during the KOTOR days. There's nothing unique about Shepard if he's a woman, whereas male shepard..That's a man who tops Master Chief as the top Sci Fi soldier imo

 

I disagree. Opinions about totally subjective topics like this can't be debunked. The question asked is kind of like asking 'Apples or oranges, which do you prefer and why?' There is no right answer. 



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I disagree. Opinions about totally subjective topics like this can't be debunked. The question asked is kind of like asking 'Apples or oranges, which do you prefer and why?' There is no right answer. 

Incorrect. There may not be a "right or wrong" answer however there can be evidence to show which has the stronger case. Male characters have always been more interesting than female. Guys like Batman, Geralt, Dante, Ezio, and such were always more interesting than ones like Samus, Kerrigan, Bayonetta, and so on



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I could never bring myself to play Renegade Fem or Male Shep but I'm seen some videos and some of the things that he says are pretty sexist and racist.

 

What? Sexist and racist? It never came across like that for me unless of course when you specifically try to play a racist, I tried that to an extent with my FemShep. So it would be the same for both genders here then anyway.

 

Anyways, FemShep has some awful flirting when simply talking to Jacob (it's the reason I didn't talk at all to Jacob during my FemShep run because that did not fit her) and when getting her way with James in the Citadel DLC, so that's not that great sometimes either. She comes off as a needy desperate b*tch sometimes.



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I can understand that some might prefer FemShep, but male Shep is far from being some stereotypical 'dudebro.'

I apologize, that migh have been worded incorrectly at my part. I do not think male Shepard is a stereotypical dudebro, I just think that the default male looks like a steriotypical dudebro. Characterwise he isn't one.


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What? Sexist and racist? It never came across like that for me unless of course when you specifically try to play a racist, I tried that to an extent with my FemShep. So it would be the same for both genders here then anyway.

 

Anyways, FemShep has some awful flirting when simply talking to Jacob (it's the reason I didn't talk at all to Jacob during my FemShep run because that did not fit her) and when getting her way with James in the Citadel DLC, so that's not that great sometimes either. She comes off as a needy desperate b*tch sometimes.

I kind of feel the romances are better for male as well. With male you've got Miranda, Ashley, Liara, and Tali..Kelly and Allers as side notes. Aside from Garrus and Kaidan, Femshep loses Thane because he dies and Jacob leaves to be with the other girl lol Forgotten her name as I've not played in a while. 



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Depends on better. FemShep's straight romances tend to be dramatic and none of them are similar to one another which is a nice change. BroShep's straight romance hardly have any conflict. Girls just swoon at him without much an effort at his side except perhaps, Jack. Most of lovers doesn't do much to the narrative and it was more "boy meet girl, girl unload everything on him, they realize they were meant for each other have sex" fluff.... I've written basic vanilla romance like this since I was a teenager..



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Well, at least there's Ashley, though there's no reason for the standoff on the Citadel to last more than a second, unless Shep ain't got time to visit his boo in the hospital.

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I can understand that some might prefer FemShep, but male Shep is far from being some stereotypical 'dudebro.'
 
The dudebro stereotype is of an obnoxious homophobe and misogynist who hides behind a screen of hypermasculinity to hide his own insecurity. None of that is an accurate description of Male Shep.


Yeah, I greatly prefer FemShep, but not because of any aversion to dudebroness. The irony in that idea is that save for some minor details here and there, Shepard is exactly the same, just with different vocal tones/inflections.