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[themikefest]

I don't see a problem with femshep fighting the Yahg. I mean, why not? She's tough and been trained for combat. So fighting tha Yahg is warm up for her. How many men can say that?

[von uber]

Looks pretty ridiculous to me. That said I feel the same regarding the same sequence with a male character.

 

Why? It's not like she wins the trial of strength is it:

 

[Valmar]

Yes it would.  What you seem to fail to realize is that the entire premise of the trilogy is there is Shepard and that they are bad ass... it doesn't matter whether it's he or she. So yeah, Shepard can do it, doesn't matter if male or female.

 

The codex says that every Alliance soldier gets a strength enhancements. Don't know exact quote, somebody more knowledgeable than me can do it. But you have it right there, every grunt start pretty much on level. And once Shep is resurrected, once again, why discriminate? The entire point of Lazarus is to make Shepard better than the best... so yeah, it makes ton of sense to make a female weaker just because of that extra X on sexual chromosome, right?

 

What you're doing here is applying a preconceived notion of females being physically weaker than males. In our world, that works out on average. In MEverse and Alliance... it doesn't.

 

This argument baffles me. Giving both genders the same cybernetic upgrades is not going to make them perfectly even, one still has the natural advantage. People who are overly sensitive and take offense to this fact must go their entire lives angry at life for how it constructed humans.

 

Someone says, quite respectfully, that its their opinion that the scenes feel more natural when its played as a male character. In return people bark "nuh uh! You're wrong, you can't feel that way!" Jeeze. Reminds me of the time people were crying over femshep touching her stomach.

 

I don't see a problem with femshep fighting the Yahg. I mean, why not? She's tough and been trained for combat. So fighting tha Yahg is warm up for her. How many men can say that?

 

How many men can say that? Every male Shepard could say that. Both Shepard's are badass and, frankly, crazy. I'd even argue that femshep is MORE badass because she breaks the standard male-dominated action hero role.

[themikefest]

 

How many men can say that? Every male Shepard could say that. Both Shepard's are badass and, frankly, crazy. I'd even argue that femshep is MORE badass because she breaks the standard male-dominated action hero role.

No kidding male Shepard can say that. He does fight the Yahg afterall in the dlc. 

 

Why do you say crazy?

[Valmar]

 

Why do you say crazy?

 

You don't see headbutting krogan, punching yahg and tackling asari off balconies to be rather crazy? I always found it funny Shepard criticizes James' actions on Mars when they were rather tame by Shepard's standards. But thats just me.

[RanetheViking]

I don't see a problem with femshep fighting the Yahg. I mean, why not? She's tough and been trained for combat. So fighting tha Yahg is warm up for her. How many men can say that?

What the ..?

 

Are you saying only females are combat trained in the future, or on only females can take on Yahgs?

[themikefest]

What the ..?

 

Are you saying only females are combat trained in the future, or on only females can take on Yahgs?

No. You are by believing that is what I said when I didn't. Look at all the males in the Alliance. How many of them can say they fought a Yahg? 

[RanetheViking]

No. You are by believing that is what I said when I didn't. Look at all the males in the Alliance. How many of them can say they fought a Yahg? 

M' kay. Sure.

[Valmar]

No. You are by believing that is what I said when I didn't. Look at all the males in the Alliance. How many of them can say they fought a Yahg? 

 

It's still a weird thing to say. You're singling out the gender as if its specifically important. Like Femshep doing it is is something particularly special to tout against the males.

 

It's strange because you're putting emphasis on gender here, both on Shepard and on the alliance. Shepard fought a yahg. How many people can say that. What gender Shepard is has no relevance whatsoever because Shepard can be both sexes. Why mention the gender of Shep being special against the opposite gender of alliance? I dunno, maybe its just me, but it seems like a pretty odd thing to even bring up, really.

[KaiserShep]

Why do you say crazy?

Dunno about yours, but my Shepard is kind of crazy. Lusting for battle, pushing people out of windows, and headbutting a krogan, risking a concussion and gleefully having a high speed sky car chase on Illium? This chick lives by the seat of her N7-issue armored pants.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Hale was solid in ME1 but was a bit of an emotional loose-cannon in the next two games.

 

 

You had to play Renegade in the first two games to appreciate the work Meer did, as his Paragon and Neutral dialogue was all very plain, but he just about nailed all of his part in ME3 IMO.

[von uber]

Reminds me of the time people were crying over femshep touching her stomach.

Completely different thing.

And why do people use the phrase 'crying' when they don't agree with other people's criticisms? I've noticed it a lot - just seems an attempt to ridicule and stifle any discussion by implying that their viewpoint is childish.

[themikefest]

 

. Reminds me of the time people were crying over femshep touching her stomach.

 

I don't recall anyone "crying" about that. I remember folks discussing it. What bothered me about that is Anderson says something about getting soft on the sides when he should be looking in the mirrior. Its too bad femshep couldn't punch him in the gut and say "Who's soft now?" as he doubles over.

[Tonymac]

I think both Sheps pull it off fairly well.  What should be important for Commander Shepard is physical conditioning, not gender.  

 

In all honesty, fighting the Yahg in LOTSB looked kind of silly, because the Yahg is bigger than a Krogan.   ANY human in that situation would look comical trying to push a 600 pound plus Yahg around in combat.  We all know its preposterous.  It would be like a Bantamweight fighter getting in the ring with Mike Tyson when he was in his prime.

 

Truth be told though, if you took Tyson and put him in the ring with say, a 150 pound Thai kickboxer, the outcome would be an unknown, but I'd put my money on the kickboxer.  I remember back when I was in the Navy seeing a few Marines getting into the the kickboxing ring.  Not even one of them made it a full round, and none of those cats was a slouch with a beergut.

 

What happened in LOTSB was just bad cinematics.  

[Valmar]

Completely different thing.

And why do people use the phrase 'crying' when they don't agree with other people's criticisms? I've noticed it a lot - just seems an attempt to ridicule and stifle any discussion by implying that their viewpoint is childish.

 

Quite selective of you to focus on one offhanded remark, isn't it?

 

I admit that was my point of using the term, yes. I absolutely saw it as a very childish and overly sensitive subject. People signaling out a single, brief animation in the game and making a dramatic fuss about it. So yeah. I did see it as childish. I certainly don't expect you to agree with me on that, but I will concede that that was my intention in wording. That's all I'll say about it though. I offhandedly remarked on it due to the similarities in the context I saw. It wasn't an invitation to bring that 'conversation' back up - at least not with my involvement.

 

Regardless, you can remove that one single line of remark and the rest my post remains still as valid. As well as my consequent posts on the subject. Feel free to ignore those to focus on this single remark, though, certainly.

 

 

I don't recall anyone "crying" about that. I remember folks discussing it. What bothered me about that is Anderson says something about getting soft on the sides when he should be looking in the mirrior. Its too bad femshep couldn't punch him in the gut and say "Who's soft now?" as he doubles over.

 

That would had been pretty damn funny regardless of your gender of Shep. Though it's amusing to imply that Femshep would be so sensitive about her weight that she would punch Anderson for it, someone who has been rather friendly and respectful of Shepard throughout the trilogy.

 

Odd to see you jump on von's little bandwagon now, though. Our discussion has went off past that and now you're rewinding back on an older comment. You'd think you would had mentioned this at the relevant time in the conversation rather then bring it back up several post later coincidentally after someone else signals it out.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

I don't recall anyone "crying" about that. I remember folks discussing it. What bothered me about that is Anderson says something about getting soft on the sides when he should be looking in the mirrior. Its too bad femshep couldn't punch him in the gut and say "Who's soft now?" as he doubles over.

 

IMO, No. It would be stupid and completely irrational on Shepard's part to someone who has been friendly and 

 

1-Got The Normandy freed from Lockdown

2-Stalled the Council in ME2

3-In ME3, Anderson did help with his "Good work" Shepard.

 

It isn't Shepard's like to punch Anderson. What he would accomplish with it? It's like Shepard's doesn't handle jokes...

 

PS: All of you, what do you refer to Shepard when posting in threads? He, she, s/he or simply Shepard?

[themikefest]

 

That would had been pretty damn funny regardless of your gender of Shep. Though it's amusing to imply that Femshep would be so sensitive about her weight that she would punch Anderson for it, someone who has been rather friendly and respectful of Shepard throughout the trilogy.

 

Odd to see you jump on von's little bandwagon now, though. Our discussion has went off past that and now you're rewinding back on an older comment. You'd think you would had mentioned this at the relevant time in the conversation rather then bring it back up several post later coincidentally after someone else signals it out.

Considering that Anderson made no effort to help find a way to stop the reapers after the SR1 went boom and tells Shepard that its up to her to stop the reapers, I would say respect went out the window. My Shepard never cared about him. He didn't care about her.

 

I only joined von uber's bandwagon is because I agree with him. He made a thread about that scene however long ago. There was no reason to even have Anderson put his hand on her gut or towards her gut and mention about being soft on the side. 

[Mordokai]

PS: All of you, what do you refer to Shepard when posting in threads? He, she, s/he or simply Shepard?

 

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[78stonewobble]

PS: All of you, what do you refer to Shepard when posting in threads? He, she, s/he or simply Shepard?

 

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Or whatever I use as first name... Allthough in some games I'm wholly unimaginative and all my characters would be named: Test1, Test2, Test3 and so forth... like clones of an assembly line. 

[themikefest]

IMO, No. It would be stupid and completely irrational on Shepard's part to someone who has been friendly and 

 

1-Got The Normandy freed from Lockdown

2-Stalled the Council in ME2

3-In ME3, Anderson did help with his "Good work" Shepard.

 

It isn't Shepard's like to punch Anderson. What he would accomplish with it? It's like Shepard's doesn't handle jokes...

 

PS: All of you, what do you refer to Shepard when posting in threads? He, she, s/he or simply Shepard?

Shepard, or at least my Shepard, would be in the right to punch him

 

1) After the SR1 goes boom, he makes no effort at all to find a way to stop the reapers. He turned his back on humanity, Shepard and the galaxy. The same can be said for all the ME1 characters

2) He along with the Alliance make no effort to confirm Shepards death. His answer was, when I found out you were alive, I sent you that message. Is that suppose to make me feel better? Get lost clown. He even tells Shepard its up to her to stop the reapers. Yeah. Thanks for nothing clown.

3) Anderson doesn't care about Shepard. In the shuttle while in London, he says "too bad it took the reapers to unite the galaxy." What a dumba**. It was Shepard that united the galaxy. He later sends her to an area where the resistance is the heaviest, but to stay alive for the final push. Where was he to help get any injured onto the Normandy during the what-the-crap evac scene? Why didn't he help with shooting the husks and Mirauder?

4) He says you did good child to my femshep. Femshep isn't a child. Fortunately he dies a moment later. Its better having TIM kill him.

 

So its a joke that he mentions she is soft on the sides. Is everyone suppose to accept that comment? Before he makes a comment like that, he needs to make sure he has his sh*t  squared away otherwise he needs to shutup

 

When posting I refer to Shepard as femshep/her/she/Shepard

[von uber]

Quite selective of you to focus on one offhanded remark, isn't it?

 

 

Eh it was a general observation, not picking on you per se. Just something I have noticed on here of late, especially with regard to the endings.

[Vazgen]

Why? It's not like she wins the trial of strength is it:

I just think she/he would've bounced away from the shield. Look at Yahg's mass! I think having Shepard to engage him in a melee was a wrong design choice, the dude is too strong. 

[KaiserShep]

I do agree that the yagh should not have been something to melee at all. We should have been focusing on destroying the generator that erected the kinetic barrier while under fire.

[cap and gown]

 

 

PS: All of you, what do you refer to Shepard when posting in threads? He, she, s/he or simply Shepard?

 

I tend to use the gender of the Shepard I am currently playing. If I am playing a femshep, then I tend to call Shepard a she. If I am playing a broshep, I tend to refer to Shepard as a he.

[Valmar]

PS: All of you, what do you refer to Shepard when posting in threads? He, she, s/he or simply Shepard?

 

Generally I refer to Shepard in terms of a male. Though this is just for convenience of writing and doesn't actually have any significance since Shepard's gender is not defined. It's easier to just say "he" and "him" then to say "he/she, him/her". I do usually favor just saying Shepard, though, if the context allows it to flow naturally.