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#126
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Mage. It's the only class on which I've beaten the game (their epic against the Arishock, becuase I can't get very far when I play warriors, I've also never have been a rogue yet. )

The confrontation with the Arishok is even more epic if you're playing a female mage with Fenris in the party and Isabela doesn't return.



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There are fights that take place immediately in front of Cullen (What Lies WIthin) and Emeric (The First Sacrifice). It's ridiculous they wouldn't say anything. I don't even bring mage companions to these fights because I'm THAT anal about immersion.

 

The Cullen example, particularly, was just really bad for me.  I wanted to enjoy playing a Mage, but I just couldn't after that.  It was just too egregious.



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The confrontation with the Arishok is even more epic if you're playing a female mage with Fenris in the party and Isabela doesn't return.


Yeah, I know. And I like Carver more than I like Bethany, I literally always be a Mage to get him as my Hawke's little bro, and plus my Hawke was a guy Mage that romanced Isabela (has played as a female Mage that did exactly what you stated).

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Go mage.

You are from a mage bloodline (both your mother and father side). You have spent all your life hiding and protecting yourself and your sister from both the Templars and dangers of magic. You are more relevant to the story too. It becomes more apparent in Legacy DLC.


How so?

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I chose Warrior, since I think as a Warrior trying to protect and siding with Mages would make a meaningful story. Just personal opinion zz



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I chose two handed warrior hawke cuz its fun and blood everywhere... XD plus bethany is adorable and i like being the protector than the protected...



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I chose two handed warrior hawke cuz its fun and blood everywhere... XD plus bethany is adorable and i like being the protector than the protected...

You likes "blood everywhere"? Lets choose a blood mage!


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You likes "blood everywhere"? Lets choose a blood mage!

Yes i like xD i would but unfortunately it makes no sense in DAI when i meet my hawke and shes all like "stupid blood mages and ****" if she is a blood mage >.> 



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Yes i like xD i would but unfortunately it makes no sense in DAI when i meet my hawke and shes all like "stupid blood mages and ****" if she is a blood mage >.> 

Not totally contradiction, can be resolved.

 

Suppose Hawke know blodmagic, but he know the bloodmagic's danger too. If Hawke is quite self-concident, he can say that he can do it, others do not. (True, this in itself can give a chance to a pride demon ... but we know that Hawke able to overcome ... ;) )

On the other hand Hawke by the time of the Inquisition burned out completely.

 

And never forget! The Chantry use blood magic too: the phylactery-system based on blood magic!

 

But really, we should have dialogue for it. (I admit: whithout it, the justification of using blood magic are pretty weak)
 
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Blood mage or not, my choice is a mage Hawke for story, and a templar Carver.


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Not totally contradiction, can be resolved.

 

Suppose Hawke know blodmagic, but he know the bloodmagic's danger too. If Hawke is quite self-concident, he can say that he can do it, others do not. (True, this in itself can give a chance to a pride demon ... but we know that Hawke able to overcome ... ;) )

On the other hand Hawke by the time of the Inquisition burned out completely.

 

And never forget! The Chantry use blood magic too: the phylactery-system based on blood magic!

 

But really, we should have dialogue for it. (I admit: whithout it, the justification of using blood magic are pretty weak)
 
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Blood mage or not, my choice is a mage Hawke for story, and a templar Carver.

 

Well i actually love making my hawke the angry at the world bitchy type xD and i admit that blood magic and magic in itself is cool but for me it doesnt fit well in the story i want to weave so each their own though im glad you like mage hawke :D i prefer warrior because well it makes more sense since if you are a mage meredith or any templar wouldnt want you roaming around freely in Act 1 of DA2... 



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Well i actually love making my hawke the angry at the world bitchy type xD and i admit that blood magic and magic in itself is cool but for me it doesnt fit well in the story i want to weave so each their own though im glad you like mage hawke :D i prefer warrior because well it makes more sense since if you are a mage meredith or any templar wouldnt want you roaming around freely in Act 1 of DA2... 

Hawke do not use magic on Kirkwall's street, he was strong enough to fight – perhaps not as skilled as Carver, but maybe he was not bad (In game mechanism ofc yes, he use spells, but you can see much scene, from which reveals: he do not use magic on the public street.)



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Hawke do not use magic on Kirkwall's street, he was strong enough to fight – perhaps not as skilled as Carver, but maybe he was not bad.  (In game mechanism ofc yes, he use spells, but you can see much scene, from which reveals: he do not use magic on the public street.)

But well dont we fire magic in front of templars? Though there is nothing wrong in headcannoning that mage hawke managed to hide it from people and that most templars are blind *cough*cullen*cough* i just prefer warrior :)


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Warrior. That way Bethany is alive.
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I prefer warrior for three reasons:

 

1) Hawke is built like a warrior. It's really weird seeing a tall, muscular, athletic mage/rogue who is supposed to have no muscle or only lean muscle training, but who looks and walks and carries themselves like they can pick up a broadsword or sword and shield and go toe-to-toe with seasoned warriors any moment.

 

2) Since Hawke is not a mage, it's not so much of a plot hole since you're not running around Kirkwall casting spells in broad daylight yet never ONCE have to worry about getting arrested by Templars. At least Bethany gets caught, which is a little more consistent to the "lore."

 

3) Being a non-mage means Bethany is around and can potentially get taken to the Gallows. That gives any Hawke I imagine incentive to stay in Kirkwall for years on end, since I HATE Kirkwall and can't imagine any Hawke of "mine" voluntarily staying there. It's like, "They've got your sister. You know Meredith's a tyrant and the Gallows are a pit of misery. Better stick around to make sure she's okay." It's also incentive to save the city instead of ditching it since  your sister will become Saarabas if the Qunari take it, and incentive to get involved in the Mage/Templar conflict since your sister is caught in the middle.


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I prefer warrior for three reasons:

 

1) Hawke is built like a warrior. It's really weird seeing a tall, muscular, athletic mage/rogue who is supposed to have no muscle or only lean muscle training, but who looks and walks and carries themselves like they can pick up a broadsword or sword and shield and go toe-to-toe with seasoned warriors any moment.

 

2) Since Hawke is not a mage, it's not so much of a plot hole since you're not running around Kirkwall casting spells in broad daylight yet never ONCE have to worry about getting arrested by Templars. At least Bethany gets caught, which is a little more consistent to the "lore."

 

3) Being a non-mage means Bethany is around and can potentially get taken to the Gallows. That gives any Hawke I imagine incentive to stay in Kirkwall for years on end, since I HATE Kirkwall and can't imagine any Hawke of "mine" voluntarily staying there. It's like, "They've got your sister. You know Meredith's a tyrant and the Gallows are a pit of misery. Better stick around to make sure she's okay." It's also incentive to save the city instead of ditching it since  your sister will become Saarabas if the Qunari take it, and incentive to get involved in the Mage/Templar conflict since your sister is caught in the middle.

 

1., 2. All right, lets clear again ... Hawke do not use his ****** magic in the public streets of Kirkwall, and at the templars. For this to be credible, Hawke has to be strong. Strong enough to be able to fight without magic. Maybe not as skilled as Carver, but he also learned from his father to fight, as it is the first time Carver. Their father was no fool: he taught his children to survive, as it has itself had to stick in for survival. (Yes, Hawke use his magic in the streets, but just for game mechanism, not according to the story.)

 

Plus, for example from the real life: you dont know people, who smart, strong and well educated?

 

Lets see one of the evidences!

//indavideo.hu/video/DA2_Qunari_scene; Hawke do not use magic in Kirkwall's streets – at 3:15

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This is not to say that the rogue or the warrior would be bad choice. Only that: the mage specc for Hawke are not unbelievable.

 

Ok, rage out, sorry.



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I chose Warrior, since I think as a Warrior trying to protect and siding with Mages would make a meaningful story. Just personal opinion zz


That's true. But you know what is even better than someone standing up for the mages? A mage earning everyone's respect.

With a warrior or rogue, people are more likely to say "I know you're a great person and all, Hawke, but I'm not sure if you were wise to side with THEM."

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That's true. But you know what is even better than someone standing up for the mages? A mage earning everyone's respect.

With a warrior or rogue, people are more likely to say "I know you're a great person and all, Hawke, but I'm not sure if you were wise to side with THEM."

 

 

Hawke can have a mage sister in the Circle though. That alone is reason enough to attempt to stop the Templars from purging the Circle. 



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Bottom line: Bethany is better then Carver. (I will fight anyone who says otherwise) Therefore, warrior or rogue is the way to go.


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Bottom line: Bethany is better then Carver. (I will fight anyone who says otherwise) Therefore, warrior or rogue is the way to go.

Lets, try then! ;)

 

Fort the little, idiot templar Carver!



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I think rival Warden Carver is a lot better*, mainly because with the rivalry bit, almost losing him in the Deep Roads to the blight can enhance the siblings' relationship. 

 

*still not better than Bethany


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Hawke can have a mage sister in the Circle though. That alone is reason enough to attempt to stop the Templars from purging the Circle.


I'm not talking about Hawke's motivation. This is about which alternative is a greater symbol of the fact that mages can be trusted.

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That's true. But you know what is even better than someone standing up for the mages? A mage earning everyone's respect.

With a warrior or rogue, people are more likely to say "I know you're a great person and all, Hawke, but I'm not sure if you were wise to side with THEM."

 

I think people will say that regardless if Hawke is a Mage or not. Like with Fenris saying Hawke/Bethany is a fine Mage but the majority of Mages are weak/dangerous.



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I prefer warrior for three reasons:
 
1) Hawke is built like a warrior. It's really weird seeing a tall, muscular, athletic mage/rogue who is supposed to have no muscle or only lean muscle training, but who looks and walks and carries themselves like they can pick up a broadsword or sword and shield and go toe-to-toe with seasoned warriors any moment.


Haha, it's interesting how everyone has a different take on this, but that is the same reason I liked mage.... Hawke doesn't look or act much act like one, most of the time, which makes sense why he/she is able to fly under the radar and understand where the non mages are coming from. If you think about, Hawke has most likely not known very many mages. Hawke should not act much like Anders who grew up in the circle surrounded by other mages, or Morrigan who grew up in a swamp with Flemeth.
 

2) Since Hawke is not a mage, it's not so much of a plot hole since you're not running around Kirkwall casting spells in broad daylight yet never ONCE have to worry about getting arrested by Templars. At least Bethany gets caught, which is a little more consistent to the "lore."


The game does have a bit of a gameplay/story segregation problem. That's one of its flaws. But I don't have a hard time imagining Hawke doesn't use magic in plain sight, or simply uses other weapons as well (hence the athletic build). Also explains Carver's jealousy.

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The fireballs aren't that hard to explain given that you can order grenades that cause even bigger fiery explosions. Now, my mage Hawke would probably have a tough time selling the idea that the guys she lifts then slams on the ground (occasionally causing one or two to burst apart) are just really clumsy.

Still on my first playthrough, but I like being a mage for reasons others have given.

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I think rival Warden Carver is a lot better*, mainly because with the rivalry bit, almost losing him in the Deep Roads to the blight can enhance the siblings' relationship. 
 
*still not better than Bethany


YEAH, I LOVE CARVER. OMG, HES MY FAVORITE LITTLE SLIBING EVER. LET DOSE HATERS COME WITH THOSE CARVER HATE!

*can rant all day long about how baft Carver is*