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#226
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How about this.  try playing an archer  then walk back and to the left while adjusting your camera up and to the left all while simultaneously shooting an explosive arrow.  then look at how your fingers are spread out over the keyboard and ask yourself (is this comfortable?)

 

I have a gaming mouse with 12 side buttons and two up/down buttons, plus a mouse wheel that scrolls (and it also functions as a button). I have zero problems accessing all my hotkeys with one hand - and fairly comfortably too, but I have lived with my mouse for a while. Hey, you want to use a lesser mouse, well...sorry? And even without a mouse, it should be possible to come up with a combination of keybinds that would mitigate your issues.

 

I'd like every problem patched, particularly the crashes/lockups that I have experienced, but I have finished the game once and am still playing it. Haven't experienced any gamebreaking issues at this point, myself (realize that does not necessarily apply to others; it's just my experience to date). There was a slight problem due to my Crossfire config, but I know enough after years of having a PC that the best policy when Crossfire/SLI doesn't work is to try playing with only one card and see if that clears anything up.

 

Oh, I want them to fix the Crossfire/SLI issues, but I don't expect that to happen anytime soon (If ever). It's the more critical issue that need to be addressed first in any case. I think modern games are so complex that it's pretty darned difficult to catch and to squash them all prior to a game's release. Some other issues may or may not be more obvious and perhaps should have been caught sooner, but whatever. I've simply learned to be patient over the years. People can either fly off the handle about things, or they can try take it in stride and at least attempt to communicate politely with the devs over the problems.

 

Bugs suck, but I'm semi-used to seeing them in major releases, no matter who the game's from. The only three times I've ever been really annoyed about bugs involve The Evil Within (due to a game-stopping bug in Chapter 12 where my screen will just turn totally white), Splinter Cell: Blacklist (because Ubisoft's patch totally borked things worse than they were thanks to the automatic patching - long story there), and Fallout: New Vegas (lost hours of  progress because of the quicksave bug).

 

Even in those cases, I didn't go on rants about the issues despite my annoyance level. TEW is just uninstalled, ditto on SC:B - I just crossed them off as total losses, or at least not being interesting enough for me to actually care. With FO:NV, I just looked up info about that bug, read that it was being patched and was okay with waiting for it because once I knew the problem existed, I was at least able to avoid it by manually saving my progress until it was sorted out, so sometimes there are workarounds (maybe not super convenient, but you do what you have to do when you want to play a game).



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About time.

 

Is it out yet?  No?  Damn it.  ...is it out yet?



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Nearly three weeks and no patch. That's just...annoying.


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Cause this game has been released on unacceptable level on old gen consoles and the patches have took too long already to fix what should have been fixed before release. It's not okay to let us wait any longer and give false hope saying that patch is coming soon.

 

It wouldn't be false hope because you know its come out for the PC and the only reason for the delay is the console process.



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I know I'm a few pages behind (and I'm still catching up on all the posts), but to the people saying the game "isn't unplayable" for people: you are wrong, straight up. My PC specs are above the minimum requirement and should be more than capable of running this game on high-ultra with no problems.

 

That said, I CANNOT play the game. Literally unable to. Got to In Hushed Whispers in my first playthrough before the non-stop crashes started happening in the cut scenes following the boss fight. And this is the best part: there is no opportunity to save following, no autosave, nothing. So not only does the game keep crashing, but every time you try to play, you have to keep doing the same fight again. and again. and again.

 

Frustration with that aside I thought to myself, "Well, maybe it's just a texture that's messing up my GPU and the response. Surely it'll get patched out. In the meantime, I'll try a new game and mess around with side quests until after the patch." Lo and behold, I can't even get past one of the first cut scenes without it crashing my GPU/to desktop.

 

The ONLY reason I haven't returned an unplayable game that I spent money I don't necessarily have to be throwing around willy-nilly is the hope that a patch will fix these issues, since I know for a fact it's not a hardware issue. DA:I is the only game that does this rofl.



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It wouldn't be false hope because you know its come out for the PC and the only reason for the delay is the console process.

 

We don't know the reason why it isn't out yet, people are just guessing. It's false hope since they said the patch is coming very soon but didn't state to what platform so automatically everyone assumes it's for their platform meaning that patch would come to all platforms. But since they already stated that they will be first tackle game-breaking issues there is no way old gen consoles are left out from the patch.



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If the PC patch is delayed for console reasons I'm willing to denounce and never buy another Bioware game right now.. 

As a console player myself I wouldn't blame you.  They should absolutely fix console problems, but they should fix for as many as they can as quickly as they can.



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Will we get our precious patch today? I think we will. It is Friday, right? Weekend full gaming. They wouldn't disappoint us at this point, would they?



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Will we get our precious patch today? I think we will. It is Friday, right? Weekend full gaming. They wouldn't disappoint us at this point, would they?


Oh, you poor, naive sap.
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Oh, you poor, naive sap.

But it is the right time. We are approaching the third week. Ubisoft was even faster with their patches. Yes, we should get it today. Large patch, full of fixes. I don't think that after so much time they would fix only some few major problems. It will be truly large patch fixing bugs on the left and right.



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We don't know the reason why it isn't out yet, people are just guessing. It's false hope since they said the patch is coming very soon but didn't state to what platform so automatically everyone assumes it's for their platform meaning that patch would come to all platforms. But since they already stated that they will be first tackle game-breaking issues there is no way old gen consoles are left out from the patch.

 

 

lol i wonder what would happend if they left 360/ps3 players out.... another ME 3 ending situation controversy ? cause this would certainly lead to another group uniting together.



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But it is the right time. We are approaching the third week. Ubisoft was even faster with their patches. Yes, we should get it today. Large patch, full of fixes. I don't think that after so much time they would fix only some few major problems. It will be truly large patch fixing bugs on the left and right.

 

Hope your right but I just don't see it myself. They only acknowledged some of the bugs a few days ago. Think we're in for a bit of a wait.



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But it is the right time. We are approaching the third week. Ubisoft was even faster with their patches. Yes, we should get it today. Large patch, full of fixes. I don't think that after so much time they would fix only some few major problems. It will be truly large patch fixing bugs on the left and right.


Don't expect any patches before New Year's, in my opinion. I suppose it is possible they may get out one of the three before then, but I seriously doubt it will be tackling the PC UI or camera, since that is working as intended.

Things that are truly broken, like CTD issues, dialogue glitches, FPS errors, gender swapping... these are all either show-stoppers or true bugs. Patches that introduce improvements to the game take a back seat to patches that make the game better than it was originally designed - even if that design is poorly done.

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Maybe they will release a patch before xmas, or at least in this year lol

But really I don't think that we will get a patch this week or even another..



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But it is the right time. We are approaching the third week. Ubisoft was even faster with their patches. Yes, we should get it today. Large patch, full of fixes. I don't think that after so much time they would fix only some few major problems. It will be truly large patch fixing bugs on the left and right.


A Friday is not a good day to release updates. I am not saying this will never happen, I've seen it a couple of times, but if something happens, either with the release timing or the patch itself, they need the provided days to fix it. This is usually why you see updates on either tuesdays or thursdays, or monday to wednesday. But who knows right? You never know, and I sure don't know how Bioware does this. I am just sharing my thoughts on how I've seen this behavior through various developers, plublishers and manufacturers. M
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Hope your right but I just don't see it myself. They only acknowledged some of the bugs a few days ago. Think we're in for a bit of a wait.

 

 

Don't expect any patches before New Year's, in my opinion. I suppose it is possible they may get out one of the three before then, but I seriously doubt it will be tackling the PC UI or camera, since that is working as intended.

Things that are truly broken, like CTD issues, dialogue glitches, FPS errors, gender swapping... these are all either show-stoppers or true bugs. Patches that introduce improvements to the game take a back seat to patches that make the game better than it was originally designed - even if that design is poorly done.

I would be happy with just this thing patched: http://forum.bioware...d-its-problems/plus other major bugs of course.

 

New Year seems like a date placed far-far away in the future. There will be plenty of new games in the early 2015. I want a patch and I want it now, today, served with a long apology letter, free DLC and some more 'sorry, sorry'. I would not mind a beautiful official resignitation information, I don't care if the person quitting the job would be a scape goat or not. At this point I will enjoy any kind of PR's theatricality to save company's face.

 

A Friday is not a good day to release updates. I am not saying this will never happen, I've seen it a couple of times, but if something happens, either with the release timing or the patch itself, they need the provided days to fix it. This is usually why you see updates on either tuesdays or thursdays, or monday to wednesday. But who knows right? You never know, and I sure don't know how Bioware does this. I am just sharing my thoughts on how I've seen this behavior through various developers, plublishers and manufacturers. M

Oh, but they have got plenty of time. Releasing the game with all these obvious bugs deserve a solid and fast correction. Test phase? Quality check? Did this game get any of this? I can't say to be honest. When one of the main races has broken and glued arms then there is something very,very wrong going on.



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My game had an update in origin last night, I don't know if it was a patch or not but I thought I'd share just in case. 



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Oh, but they have got plenty of time. Releasing the game with all these obvious bugs deserve a solid and fast correction. Test phase? Quality check? Did this game get any of this? I can't say to be honest. When one of the main races has broken and glued arms then there is something very,very wrong going on.


I mean if something happens with the patch and it breaks more than it fixes then they need the provided work days to fix it. You rarely see something being worked on in the weekend.

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But it is the right time. We are approaching the third week. Ubisoft was even faster with their patches. Yes, we should get it today. Large patch, full of fixes. I don't think that after so much time they would fix only some few major problems. It will be truly large patch fixing bugs on the left and right.

Ubisoft had to speed up the patches because that game was broken beyond reason. DAI has some issues, but hardly as severe as ACU, that said, I also think a game like DAI is a lot more complex than ACU. Not even accounting the fact that Ubisoft works with mostly the same engine for a while now, whereas Bioware works, for them, with a brand new engine.



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Hopefully they will release patch next week. It has been too long, I just want to play this game already.


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I mean if something happens with the patch and it breaks more than it fixes then they need the provided work days to fix it. You rarely see something being worked on in the weekend.

It is a new game with tons of broken stuff in it. It is multi million production. I don't mind it being rare, it can be a Philosopher's Stone rare, but I expect them to work on it 24h/7d/xm .

 

 

Ubisoft had to speed up the patches because that game was broken beyond reason. DAI has some issues, but hardly as severe as ACU, that said, I also think a game like DAI is a lot more complex than ACU. Not even accounting the fact that Ubisoft works with mostly the same engine for a while now, whereas Bioware works, for them, with a brand new engine.

Clipping here and here, bugs here and there; pretty much like DA:I. You could finish the game. I have bought this game on 17th of November. Polish release happend on 20th and since then I have not even touched the playthrough because of the broken-glued male elf arms. When you can't get an RP aspect out of RPG because of constant distractions then it is a bad-bad. I don't really intend on shielding Ubisoft, they have released a disaster, but so did BioWare.


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It is a new game with tons of broken stuff in it. It is multi million production. I don't mind it being rare, it can be a Philosopher's Stone rare, but I expect them to work on it 24h/7d/xm .


Yeah, I can understand the frustration I really do, I've been in plenty of these situations before, but expecting them to work on this product 24 hours a day for 7 days a week wont happen, or if they did I would be really surprised. But even so, what they do is work and they need to follow work regulations. Only time will tell, maybe we are lucky today, who could tell.

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How about this.  try playing an archer  then walk back and to the left while adjusting your camera up and to the left all while simultaneously shooting an explosive arrow.  then look at how your fingers are spread out over the keyboard and ask yourself (is this comfortable?)

 

Yes, it's fine. PC gamers like myself have been walking with WASD and using items or powers with the number keys for 30 years.

 

Next question.


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Yeah, I can understand the frustration I really do, I've been in plenty of these situations before, but expecting them to work on this product 24 hours a day for 7 days a week wont happen, or if they did I would be really surprised. But even so, what they do is work and they need to follow work regulations. Only time will tell, maybe we are lucky today, who could tell.

I'm not really frustrated, but I'm bored, bored as the Black City. They can gather people from different teams to fix it, whatever, it is not my business nor within range of my care how they will do it. I expect it to be done, I demand fast and good patches. I don't know work regulations in the Canada, I don't even want to know them at this moment. Extreme situations deserve extreme approach to solving them.

 

Yes, please, one bottle of today will be fine.



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Yeah, I can understand the frustration I really do, I've been in plenty of these situations before, but expecting them to work on this product 24 hours a day for 7 days a week wont happen, or if they did I would be really surprised. But even so, what they do is work and they need to follow work regulations. Only time will tell, maybe we are lucky today, who could tell.


Work regulations? I don't know about the laws in Canada, but in the US, if your employees are salaried, vice hourly, you can work them till they drop and their only recourse is to quit (simplifying the situation a bit, but mostly true). And even hourly, you can work them till they drop, you're just going to have to pay a bunch of overtime.