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Friends in High Places perk: Does it work? If so, how?


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Pi2r Epsilon

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I'd like to hear from anybody who's seen this perk working, because I haven't seen it do anything yet.

 

I picked up the Friends in High Places perk, which is supposed to notify me of merchants that have sales, as soon as I could. Many levels later, when my main character is level 17, I still haven't noticed any effect. If there were sales anywhere, the inquisitor wasn't told.

 

Now, that might just be because nobody is holding sales. After all, the perk says the inquisitor will be noticed when sales happen, not that sales will happen, so even if I played through to the end without any merchant deciding to hold a sale, the perk could arguably be said to be working.

 

...It would require a real smartarse to claim that, but it could.

 

As I have a somewhat higher opinion of Bioware than that, I am rather surprised that there haven't been any sales and wonder whether it is merely a question of patience such as, for instance, "we'll throw a sale before the final boss if you for whatever reason haven't spent your money on good equipment/schematics/reputation earlier" (making a wild guess here) or a question of the perk simply not working.

 

I am playing on PC, and my progress in the story is:

  • Level 17
  • Cleared out Hinterlands, Storm Coast (original area), Fallen Mire, Exalted Plains, Oasis (not finished temple due to lack of shards), Crestwood.
  • Completed saving the empress.
  • Have met Hawke in Crestwood but haven't visited the western approach with Hawke yet. (Next thing on the program.)


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Mikka-chan

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I didn't get anything from it either (although I opened it fairly late).  Nor from Josie's perk that claims you'll get access to a rare® stock.



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It might be main story gated.

 

It might not be working.

 

Speculation: What might be closer to the truth is Josephine might say to you "hey there's sales over in Val R." And when you go there you might see a few more items in the shop (new purples).  What isn't clear is that those purple might always populate at whatever magical point they show up in your game but you just aren't notified.

 

tl;dr so in theory if you just check the store sporadically the perk is moot since all they claim to do is let you know what they have new stuff.

 

EDIT: The rare stock one chucks a few resources at your head initially and when you go to the merchants (by the stable) there's a chance they'll be selling like 1 ironbark or a single mastercraft mat item.  It's always been halla antlers or ironbark over 114 hours... so I won't be taking that again.



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I have yet to see it do anything, and I've had it for.... quite some time. Really none of Josie's perks are really all that great. The game basically throws you more money than you'll ever need.



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I didn't get anything from it either (although I opened it fairly late).  Nor from Josie's perk that claims you'll get access to a rare® stock.

I have seen the rare stock perk in action.  Several vendors I have come across had masterwork schematics for sale.

 

The tier 3 vendor in Hissing Wastes, for example.  In several trips there, he has, at different times, had several different masterwork schematics... Including several masterwork helmets, a masterwork set of prowler armor, among others.



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Absolutely. The Short List perk works. Most of the items made available suffer the same problem as other named items in the game, namely that they are obsoleted by items crafted with easily available materials, but the superior schematics it gives access to at both T2 and T3 level are nice, even if it can be rather annoying to visit the the merchant in Hissing Wastes multiple times until he's got the superior T3 schematic you are looking for in stock.

 

But Friends in High places, which is the perk that this thread is about... It would appear that two days after I posted it, we still don't have anybody reporting seeing the perk work, which suggests that it does not.



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Most of Josephine's perks are sadly quite useless, except for the dialogue one.



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I have yet to see it do anything, and I've had it for.... quite some time. Really none of Josie's perks are really all that great. The game basically throws you more money than you'll ever need.

I really don't get that. I'm always short on gold.


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Friends in High Places does not work. Nor was it addressed in the patch.

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Most of Josephine's perks are sadly quite useless, except for the dialogue one.

Yup I restarted my character because connections was that bad. (my first Qunari Mage and made a dwarf warrior afterwards)



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Thanks for resurrecting my topic. I'd all but forgotten it.

 

I have completed the game and never saw the Friends in High Places perk have any effect.



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I didn't get anything from it either (although I opened it fairly late).  Nor from Josie's perk that claims you'll get access to a rare® stock.

They really need to separate flavor text from the actual effect text with those perks. It confused me the first time too. I thought that it will enable merchants to sell us materials. But if you read the fine print, it says Josie's people will buy/purchase rare materials, which is in-line with the actual effect of getting 10x of every crafting material for that tier. It's basically the same as Leliana's herb perks.



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soo uhh i think i know wath it does

soo say you passed by a story points which unlocks new items  by merchents

and you then go check througth all merchents you can see a littl quest mark star thingy over item categorys that have new stuff

 

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soo uhh i think i know wath it does

soo say you passed by a story points which unlocks new items  by merchents

and you then go check througth all merchents you can see a littl quest mark star thingy over item categorys that have new stuff

 

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If that's everything that it does, it's fairly useless. Becauce you have to check every vendor despite you have the perk or not.
And checking if there is something new is something that you can do even without the perk.
Just this "mark" and nothing else is quite weak in my opinion.



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soo uhh i think i know wath it does

 

No, you don't. You really don't. This thread discusses the FRIEND IN HIGH PLACES perk.

 

What you have discovered is the SHORT LIST perk. Which does exactly what its tooltip says, and is quite useful for getting superior T3 armour and weapon schematics from the T3 schematics vendors (as well as providing mostly irrelevant extra items for all other vendors, mostly purple weapons/armour that are inferior to good crafted gear).


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I really don't get that. I'm always short on gold.

 

I finished my main detailed playthrough with over 140k gold. Dropped to I think it's now 110k or something, after I bought about 30k influence lol (I wanted to max the influence level :P )



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I took this perk to get 5 perks in this list in order to obtain the "Short List" perk which is quite usefull for getting some of the very good stuff. Most of it seems to be added to the Suledin Keep in Emprise du Lion and the Hissing Wastes.

 

Still a shame that it is useless and unfixed...months after release! :mellow:

 

I guess that's the new standard we have to expect from Bioware from now on.



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This is how I think Friends in High Places works:

 

It unlocks a new merchant stand at Skyhold, next to the merchant that sells influence. This new merchant uses the inventory of merchants from other areas; e.g. shopping at the new Skyhold merchant gives you access to the inventory of the Dalish merchant, or the Crestwood Village merchant. It only displays one set of inventory at a time, and after some time will switch to another merchant's inventory (e.g. the Redcliffe weapons merchant). Mayber the it's cheaper to buy at Skyhold, or maybe it's just there to stop you having to go all the way back to whatever merchant you want, I don't know.

 

I could be wrong. I got this new Skyhold merchant in my last playthrough despite not taking the perk, but I assumed that was a bug.



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I took this perk to get 5 perks in this list in order to obtain the "Short List" perk

 

Agents you recruit, like Skywatcher or the Blades of Hessarian, count as perks for the purpose of unlocking other ones.



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I know. Still I couldn't unlock "Short List", so I had to add one more perk and I chose "Friends in High Places". Well...there is currently no other merchant beside the one who seels power. I aquired the perk just now and will check this out.



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I have seen the rare stock perk in action. Several vendors I have come across had masterwork schematics for sale.

The tier 3 vendor in Hissing Wastes, for example. In several trips there, he has, at different times, had several different masterwork schematics... Including several masterwork helmets, a masterwork set of prowler armor, among others.

I feel like everyone in this thread is confused.

The Rare Stocks: gives you a bunch of crafting materials (10 of several types) right off the war table and that's it. It does nothing to merchants. It does work exactly as told and allows you access to the next tier of this perk which presumably gives you a bunch of (10 of each type) of rarer materials direct from the war table.

The Short List puts a single new rare item in every vendors inventory for purchase. This could be anything from a T3 schemafics, to a masterwork crafting mat- to a unique purple or blue item. This perk also works as advertised.

Friends in High Places (as OP is talking about) is supposed to notify you if sales are happening at a vendor. (I imagine some courier or messenger running up to you and saying hey- big sale in Val Royeaux for the next hour or something.) @OP to my knowledge this perk along with a couple others (I've heard true grit from Forces) is totally broken.

Hopefully they fix these things soon.
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This is how I think Friends in High Places works:
 
It unlocks a new merchant stand at Skyhold, next to the merchant that sells influence. This new merchant uses the inventory of merchants from other areas; e.g. shopping at the new Skyhold merchant gives you access to the inventory of the Dalish merchant, or the Crestwood Village merchant. It only displays one set of inventory at a time, and after some time will switch to another merchant's inventory (e.g. the Redcliffe weapons merchant). Mayber the it's cheaper to buy at Skyhold, or maybe it's just there to stop you having to go all the way back to whatever merchant you want, I don't know.
 
I could be wrong. I got this new Skyhold merchant in my last playthrough despite not taking the perk, but I assumed that was a bug.



That merchants always been there but his stupid table wasn't visible until one of the most recent patches. I was under the impression he didn't come from a perk but from Bonny Sims "opening the roads" war table mission?

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I really don't get that. I'm always short on gold.


I save coin until Hissing Waste to buy a couple t3 schematics, then spend the rest on influence. But I think 25,000 is the most I ever had. So people that say they have unlimited gold always surprises me.

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This is how I think Friends in High Places works:

 

It unlocks a new merchant stand at Skyhold, next to the merchant that sells influence. This new merchant uses the inventory of merchants from other areas; e.g. shopping at the new Skyhold merchant gives you access to the inventory of the Dalish merchant, or the Crestwood Village merchant. It only displays one set of inventory at a time, and after some time will switch to another merchant's inventory (e.g. the Redcliffe weapons merchant). Mayber the it's cheaper to buy at Skyhold, or maybe it's just there to stop you having to go all the way back to whatever merchant you want, I don't know.

 

I could be wrong. I got this new Skyhold merchant in my last playthrough despite not taking the perk, but I assumed that was a bug.

 

Okay, there is a shopping stand beside the guy who sells power, but no shop-owner and I cannot purchase anything. So the perk does not add this merchant. You probably get him after a certain story quest. I have yet to attent the royal party after playing the story around Adamant.



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The fourth merchant becomes available after a war table mission. I no longer remember which one.