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[Emonthepm]

Unmodded Skyrim is **** and DAI laughs at it.

 

Modded Skyrim laughs at DAI and any other game.

 

Graphics, gameplay, perks, characters, armor, anything.

 

Skyrim's mods make it probably the best game ever made.

[Shimmer_Gloom]

Yeah, you can compare them, but you can't compare them. I don't expect the majority of people to get my weird logic. XD

LOTR is a huge long winded, overwrought, sasuge fest. X-men, at their best is far more engaging and relatable.

Lol but that's just my opinion. Of his contemporaries, I prefer Lewis over Tolkien. And I'll take a good X-men yarn over anything like LOTR any day.

[Emonthepm]

LOTR is a huge long winded, overwrought, sasuge fest. X-men, at their best is far more engaging and relatable.

 

2/10 bait, would not bite.

[AlanC9]

Unmodded Skyrim is **** and DAI laughs at it.
 
Modded Skyrim laughs at DAI and any other game.
 
Graphics, gameplay, perks, characters, armor, anything.
 
Skyrim's mods make it probably the best game ever made.

I keep hearing this, but I never manage to encounter any of these wonder mods.

[AlanC9]

You might not have realized it. If you steal from someone's store, they might send someone for you, but you won't truly know unless you search their inventory and check for a note, which will have their orders to kill you from the wronged NPC.

Thanks. Come to think of it, I hardly ever did any stealing in Skyrim. Cash strikes me as so worthless that I can't get into it. When a game system undermines RP I disengage from the system as much as I can.

[themonty72]

I think its unfair to throw mods in the picture when there is no mods for DAI.Now Skyrim the vanilla version which Beth made vs DAI I vote for DAI. I like Skyrim but it felt child like not like Super Mario brothers but no consquences for your actions. God like character, simplified quests and puzzles, killing dragons with two or three hits, no wear and tear in armor and weapons,the dragon shouts and so on. I played a Orc and Breton but I swear the game kept screaming at me you suppose to be Nord, Which made the other races feel like add ons.DAI dosent scream at me you suppose to be a human.DAI holds my attention because it has depth and good writting. 

[Aesir26]

I keep hearing this, but I never manage to encounter any of these wonder mods.

 

I have a few mods that I could never play Skyrim without but I don't think Bethesda should really get the credit for the work of their fans.

 

I mean, it's great that the game is so moddable but a lot of the better content as well as a lot of the bug fixes comes from the community. If it wasn't for that community then the Elder Scrolls probably wouldn't have the acclaim it enjoys now.

[kipac]

I agree, one of Bethesda's downfalls is NPC's treating you like crap, still calling you a 'milk drinker' after you've saved their city and livelihood. What's so bad about Comic Sans though? I thought the Bioware community was all for diversity and being different.

You remind me of that poem making Krogan from ME2 because of your avatar and fonts.

[Aren]

The best part of Skyrim is shooting someone in the face with an arrow while you are stealthed and having his friend comment on how it must be the wind. Nothing to see here, moving along!

ahahahahahahah yes especially because before to shoot the arrow we can feel like a sense of violence, pure evil in that bow and then ZAck an arrow in the eye.

[NoForgiveness]

I'm big into story and characters and stuff. Oh choices too. So naturally DA is going to win every single time. Really, the whole open world thing doesn't phase me too much. Instead of being in awe about how open and big the game(talking bout skyrim here) is, I was wondering how the hell they were calling that a full country. DA handled that part miles better and ended up with really big maps. So... ya.

[Andreas Amell]

I'll give Bioware this special praise: they don't tip-toe around having LGBT characters and their relationships. One of my Skyrim characters is a lesbian but they never had any special scenes or dialogue about her marriage. I built two family homes and had no in-depth interaction from it.

[elrofrost]

You can not compare Skyrim to DAI because Skyrim has mods. There are over 40,000 mods for Skyrim. They cover everything from thunder storms to prostitution.

 

Comparing both these games does a disservice to both games. Sure they both are fantasy RPG's (though even that can be changed in Skyrim with the right mods) - but that's about it.

 

So stop. Really. Compare DAI to ME or maybe BG or NWN. Or even Witcher series. Or better, compare it against the many MMO;'s out there already. Since that's how this game is played.

[elrofrost]

I'll give Bioware this special praise: they don't tip-toe around having LGBT characters and their relationships. One of my Skyrim characters is a lesbian but they never had any special scenes or dialogue about her marriage. I built two family homes and had no in-depth interaction from it.

And why should they when there are mods out there? Look Bethesda knew the modders would do all the work. It's why they released a modding kit with instructions (and even videos). All they had to do was release the world - a framework if you will. Modders did the rest.

 

Why you should not compare DAI to Skyrim. They are very different games.

[Caelistas]

1. Never, ever use Comic Sans

2. Skyrim is better in general because you can mod it to be whatever you want.

 

DA:I beats skyrim in the  graphics department  and  has more fleshed out party-characters. (sorry lydia)

Oh and i'm a sucker for romances in rpg games so i'll give that one to DA:I aswell.

[TheKinkyHuntress]

I love both games. How ...fitting it is that just after I moved, my Flemeth statue broke. She is still sitting next to Alduin on my book shelf...

[elrofrost]

Never saw the thug thing myself.

Integrating some of this into a Bio game would be difficult at any practical resource level. Bethesda keeps consequences for action localized in a way that Bio doesn't. Kill an NPC and the only thing that changes is a bit of bounty gets added and maybe you lose a trivial sidequest. Bio could implement NPC schedules fairly easily, though, if they ever decide to go back to having an in-world game clock instead of abstract time.

Give you an  example: there's a banking mod out there. You can borrow from the bank - gold, herbs, ore, etc, etc. If you don't pay it back on time you best watch your back. The banks sends out a goon squad. Kill the first, another more powerful squad comes next.

 

My point is, ANYTHING is possible in Skyrim. I've seen mods that removed every NPC and animal and turn Skyrim into a survival game. I've seen mods that add Stromtroppers to Skyrim. I've see everything from rainbows to hookers selling their services outside Whiterun. That's what makes Skyrim great. The mods. And the modding community and players.

DAI is a great game. It's not like Skyrim at all except it's a fantasy based RPG. That's it., DAI plays more like Warcraft then Skyrim. So compare it against that or ESO, or LOTRO.

[Rannik]

What's wrong with you?

[elrofrost]

1. Never, ever use Comic Sans

2. Skyrim is better in general because you can mod it to be whatever you want.

 

DA:I beats skyrim in the  graphics department  and  has more fleshed out party-characters. (sorry lydia)

Oh and i'm a sucker for romances in rpg games so i'll give that one to DA:I aswell.

If you are still playing Skyrim - take a look at the Interesting NPC's mod. You can get in on the Nexus or it's site at http://3dnpc.com/. 

 

It adds new NPC's (like 50 of them) all voice acted with full stories and quests. And they respond to you, the environment and can be romanced (depending on certain conditions of course- some are gay, some are not, some are racists some are not, and etc.)

[Giantdeathrobot]

I have a few mods that I could never play Skyrim without but I don't think Bethesda should really get the credit for the work of their fans.

 

I mean, it's great that the game is so moddable but a lot of the better content as well as a lot of the bug fixes comes from the community. If it wasn't for that community then the Elder Scrolls probably wouldn't have the acclaim it enjoys now.

 

I do have this opinion too. Sure, Bethesda deserves credit for keeping the game moddable, but modders themselves deserve far more for the free, hard work they put on it. Making your game moddable is not an excuse for having bad game mechanics; Fallout New Vegas is an absolutely amazing RPG, yet it's also heavily moddable, and is IMO far above any Bethesda game ever made.

 

Unmodded Skyrim is not a very good RPG, to tell the truth. Modded, it's very enjoyable but still below almost any Bioware game because of how dry the writing is, how static the world stays and how little your choices matter, which mods can't fix unfortunately. I finished Skyrim once, and replayed it to halfway, that's it. I think I've almost already spent as much time on Inquisition, albeit I do am between two jobs at the moment.

[russiandobby]

i would say i prefer dragon age inquisition in terms of quests and combat however i do wish there were more dungeons to go through in DAI.

[mopotter]

I try not to compare games because I play them all for different reasons.  I love how I can play Skyrim and never ever do the main story.  I have mods that let me do things like be a bard and I wonder around the inns playing for my keep.  

 

I wouldn't want this in a Dragon Age game.  i play Dragon Age (or BioWare) games for the story.  For the characters, dialogue and NPC's.  I love doing the main story with the side quest but I want it to end so I can do it again with a different main character so I can bring different NPCs and see how that group interacts.  

 

This is something I wouldn't do with Skyrim, sure I make different characters, but without mods there are very few interesting NPCs.  I don't need NPC mods with BioWare games.  NOT that I would complain if they gave us DLC's with more story, more NPC interaction and more dialogue,  but I'll be playing what I have now for quite a while learning about the story as it is.

 

For me, they are both great games, for different reasons and I like that they are different.

[Wynterdust]

If a game requires a heavy use of mods to become as good as people say then that pretty much answers the question. But then, it's all down to taste so neither of them are "better" than the other so the question is moot regardless.

[berrieh]

I will say this - Dragon Age: Inquisition shows the series is well on its way to taking the best thing about Skyrim (I'm not counting mods as a "thing about Skyrim" as a game's mods have nothing to do with the game IMO) - it's bigness and it's rich world. I wish the zones in DA:I were a little larger, and I wish there were a few more, but it's well on its way. I appreciate the world in Skyrim, and I appreciate that it has influenced other RPGs to go towards BIGGER areas and include more exploration, rather than set areas. 

 

After a few playthroughs, I feel fairly confident saying Dragon Age: Inquisition is fairly easily my favorite game of all time. I've played thousands of hours of Skyrim, but it was never my favorite game of all time. (I prefer Fallout, in terms of Bethesda even - it's not even my favorite Bethesda game.) Something might unseat DA:I, but it will be unlikely to come for awhile. I will be playing this game for quite a long time, and even when I take breaks for other games, I imagine I'll come back to it. I am a little disappointed at the things it seems to hint at but doesn't do (like some of the cut content) and I hope DA4 is even more ambitious and feels more next-gen (I do think this game was held back by being cross-gen, but based on when it began development, that makes total sense). I hope ME4 gets the exploration right. I have high hopes for the future, and this game isn't perfect, but I'm really, really happy with it, and it definitely resonates with me in a way Skyrim never did. 

[Rip504]

Skyrim.
I love DA:I it is an absolutely great and amazing game.
Still I will choose Skyrim.

I may go play Skyrim some more now.